Nissan internally told their dealers to expect 748 Premiums 403 Blacks.... not sure if that will end up being a little high or low....

MC

man you keep getting the new stuff...

is there any car that you'd keep...

either way bro keep it up...

I remember you being this hyped about the first nismo....how time flies...

dudes ordering GTRs like it's nothing lol

yup i had the nismo #33 like the first week they came out(loved it)....i plan to keep the black edition for a good while man ... with the special interior the DRL's and the specV wheels it really is like the perfect GTR to me. love my current GTR obviously but the changes are a pretty big deal atleast to me and finally offering a black edition is really cool.. so i have to jump on this one... so far the stars have all aligned just right.. i got probably the best deal on one in the whole country and my car is still holding strong value wise so it looks like im going to be able to pull it all off again somehow...

i would take having a special version like this just stock and enjoying it as is than a 1K HP GTR anyday, so yeah i will say that i will keep it until a R36 GTR is out

but if for some reason that never materializes here in the US then i will be holding on to this car for a long long while as i cant see my self in anything but a GTR


so the countdown is on hopefully it will be here in a little over 2 months :driving:

Thanks for the info. So, around 1150 cars total for the year? Do you think they'll be able to move them all or are we going to see a repeat of 2009/2010?

well im seeing a good bit of initial demand on the owners club site but thats sort of skewed obviously and might not reflect whats going on at some local dealer in some random town in middle usa......

but i think they will mostly be spoken especially if that total falls on the shorter side of 1100.... but you are always going to have dealers dont want to deal and those cars will obviously sit and be available for a while..
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from what i can tell the cars that are actually being sold on average the sale price of premium is about 2K over invoice and the black editions are holding closer to MSRP..... but thats outside of california... MSRP or more for the black is what looks to be going on there...

Cool. I wonder how long they'll run the DBA R35 before going to the R36 or if they'll even have another R35 refresh and THEN go to an R36.

MC any ideas man? I know it's way to early to really tell but me and Juno are looking at picking up another GTR in the next 2-3 years assuming our plans pan out etc.

I thought they said this refresh was the mid point or so, they hope to improve upon the R35.

Yeah, I've always figured that the R35 will run from 2009-2015 or so, so there could be one last refresh. Mizuno has stated/hinted before about continually improving on the platform and with the world economy in the state it's in, it is cheaper for Nissan to run the R35 platform with significant refreshed every few years or so vs developing a whole new R36 but I guess we'll see...

yeah when the car launched at the 2007 tokyo motor show mizuno said the "real" GTR would take 3 years to perfect...so the 2012 model is that car.... in a recent interview he said the R35 had 5 more years in the life cycle...but he is also stepping down this year so who knows whats going to happen to the car after that.... i would expect to see atleast 3 more years of the R35 with very midl changes past this DBA refresh... the next major change shouldnt be until the all new R36 if/when that happens and if/when it makes it to the US

I think the car is way too heavy to last another 5 years. It's a 3900# car. Even the mustang and camaro are going to be made lighter for YM2014. The only other car that fat is a caddy. I think that a YM2014 R36 in the 3400# or less range would be a good idea. Will they do it? Who knows...

Who cares about weight? I thought that the point of the car was that in spite of its girth, it can lap a track like a Vette. Don't get me wrong, I'm all about weight reduction over power bumps, but the GT-R is spectacular in part because of its cheating the laws of physics, not in spite of it.

Less weight will do nothing but make the GT-R better. Maybe then it can lap the track much faster than a 'vette.


Do you also date 400# women just because it's amazing that they can still walk?

Just because something defy's physics doesn't mean it's a good idea, or optimal.

note: damn you, you edited your post. ;)

I date 400# women cause that's all that'll date me :( :roflpuke2:

But it does make it nerd-cool, like the LF-A. And in this case, the weight isn't hindering the large beast from being a top-of-the-line performance car, so while weight savings would be a bonus, it is not necessary to make this a desirable performance car. It's already insanely fast.

that interior looks nice! not the biggest fan of those wheels but can always be replaced.

the weight is a complete non issue on the car in real life.. the only people who complain about weight are people who see the stats in a magazine.. in a column next to another car that might be lighter....but the GTR is a sub 3 sec 0-60 just over 7:20 ring time and probably a 10.9-11.0 1/4 mile car... what more can you ask for? you have the elite exotics that weigh almost nothing that barely reach or dont even do those #'s

everything about the GTR works together to make it what it is.... no one who owns the car or is truely interested in buying one says yea those #'s are really good but im gonna pass on it because its a few hundred pounds to heavy.. its weight is just something thats easy for detractors to take a shot at..... even put in its worst environment a very tight autocross course.. the car does feel big compared to the s2000's or something like that but the actual weight still doesnt really come into play...

it is what it is.... and weight will be the last thing that determines how long it lasts... the over 90K price tag will be the decider

I think the reason people are putting so much focus on weight now is because the green movement is, again, shutting down power increases so we must turn again to cutting weight. The difference this time though is Nissan is already ahead of the game with a good weight high power car ahead of the curve.

Can they cut some weight? Sure, but then you have to go all the way back to the beginning of the design to re-balance this car. Which is one of the major factors it is so great, its weight is a non-factor once you drive, track, etc.

Environmentalists: "increase the mileage"
Translation: decrease power, decrease weight

Worried Consumers: "make cars safer"
Translation: decrease speed, increase weight

me :icon14:

Yep, and then you get the misconception about weight & safety and such.

:iagree:

It could handle better with less weight. It could be faster with less weight. Nissan is compensating for the weight by adding power and wider tires. Why not cut some fat, too?

That's why I don't date, lol. I have standards :tup:

2012 vs 2011 GTR 0-60 Drag race - NAGTROC - The Nissan GT-R Owners Club


Watch the 2012 crush a 2011 gtr 0-60

wow i wonder why thou

new launch control more so than the 50hp

ohh man.....i think i want it.

new angle

thats a huge difference!

yeah under idea conditions its 2.8-2.9 insideline said today on damp surface they saw 3.0 ... so i would image that 2011 was 3.5 or so

i want to see 1/4 time... i really think on a perfect night i will see 10.9 in mine

I want one now.

first US review from automobile

2012 Nissan GT-R - First Drive - Automobile Magazine


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I'm not trying to be flippant or anything, but is the paint quality any better on these things than on the Z? Because I'd be pissed if I paid that much for a car and the paint was as weak as it is on the Z. As many of you know, I lost my Z a few months back. I'm driving a Mercedes now, and wow what a difference in the paint durability. I'd like to go back to Nissan one day, but the paint quality is a real turnoff now after seeing the difference with Mercedes.

in general the GTRs paint quality isnt any better than the Z i mean the car goes the same line as the G's .. the only noticeable difference is the front bumper and an area toward the rear are double clear coated... and the 2012 has addressed an issue with paing bubbling or peeling at the corner of the fender just like on the Z.....but as far as orange peel or over all thickness or quality its no differenet from what i have observed

super silver seemed a bit better in my experience but even then, not "super car" quality paint, but then again, it didn't really bother me at, clear bra is your friend.

hm...

370z > GTR (especially the black 2012 black editions) :icon23:

Juno just saw these pics of the blue one and now she says she's leaning towards blue since it'll match her eyes.... :icon17:

mmm dealership said that the R36 will be coming in 2014/15

:roflpuke2:

though he knew about this one before any news or leaks where out, he visits nissan japan once every 3 months

insideline test and video

2012 Nissan GT-R Full Test and Video

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dyno

Dyno-Tested: 2012 Nissan GT-R

Beautiful

/\ :shakes head: and :rolleyes: at all the comments from people after the article in the link. It's the same sh!t we've been reading about since 2008, why can't people just let it go...