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ChrisSlicks 10-01-2010 01:15 PM

Love that blue color but hate that front grill. I would have to get an aftermarket front bumper pretty quickly.

MC 10-03-2010 06:17 PM

a little more info for everyone.. official specs and performance #'s will be out OCT 18th

but it is now confirmed that the final HP # will be "over 40 more" which backs up the 530 number that came out a few weeks ago

SmoothZ 10-03-2010 06:25 PM

Sweet baby jeezus, that blue color is hot! :yum:

Not feeling the new front bumper, though.

MC 10-03-2010 06:55 PM

by the way the new stacked canards on the front are part of a new overall air flow design for the car

http://www.gtrblog.com/wp-content/up...tr35-2-010.jpg

SmoothZ 10-03-2010 06:59 PM

I'm sure a lot of engineering went into the design of those bumpers, but I wonder how much of a difference it makes compared to previous years.

MC 10-03-2010 07:22 PM

10% increase in downforce and a lower drag coefficient of .26 down from .27

Brazilbro 10-03-2010 08:08 PM

Wow thats the nicest leather interior I've seen! love the blue! and I dont mind the front end. Whats the MSRP going to be.

WarmAndSCSI 10-03-2010 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MC (Post 749026)
by the way the new stacked canards on the front are part of a new overall air flow design for the car

http://www.gtrblog.com/wp-content/up...tr35-2-010.jpg

lol a marketing person came up with those diagrams :bowrofl:

MC 10-03-2010 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Brazilbro (Post 749080)
Wow thats the nicest leather interior I've seen! love the blue! and I dont mind the front end. Whats the MSRP going to be.

that interior wont be available in the US market.. even if it was that white car speced out the way it is is probably almost $200K

MSRP for the regular 12's isnt announced but a price increase is expected.. i think best case is 2500-3K to make it a high 80's car.. but it could top mid 90's.. all depends on if they bring back the base model or not and if they try to bring the car in alignment to what its priced as in japan..

for instance... when the 09's came out they were priced similar in the US and Japan with the Yen conversion.. but when japans 2010 ( our 2011 ) came out... it jumped to about 108K USD converted.... the 2011 ( our 2012) only went up just over what would be $2K USD but there is now a huge gap between the cost of the car in the US and Japan... so its unknown if this new car will be another bug jump in the GTR price.. as most know the car is already priced at $13K more than what we orginially debuted at...

my official guess is $89K but we will see in a few weeks

flashburn 10-04-2010 08:03 AM

Damn, by the time I'll be able to afford a GT-R, I won't be able to afford it! :rofl2:

FuszNissan 10-04-2010 09:00 AM

That Full leather option looks amazing!

MC 10-04-2010 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 749741)
That Full leather option looks amazing!


here is an extended HD version of that initial video i posted...

it gives you a better look at everything both inside and out..

just click 720p or 1080p



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0ORNTg9Z6I

MC 10-04-2010 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 749698)
Damn, by the time I'll be able to afford a GT-R, I won't be able to afford it! :rofl2:


well sadly thats probably true at this rate but... the slightly used market is looking good... you can well kept 09's in the low 60's now... i think im gonna do 63Kish for mine in the next month or so

flashburn 10-04-2010 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MC (Post 750370)
well sadly thats probably true at this rate but... the slightly used market is looking good... you can well kept 09's in the low 60's now... i think im gonna do 63Kish for mine in the next month or so

Yeah true, maybe I'll look into a '12 in '13 or '14. Geez, it's kind of crazy thinking that isn't too far away.

FuszNissan 10-04-2010 04:02 PM

Hot girls and sports cars.....just seem to go so well together

MC 10-05-2010 01:12 PM

There was a media day at the Ring this weekend for the new car and one of our italian members got a ride along with one of the Nissan Test Drivers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b2-caK1ho8

FuszNissan 10-05-2010 01:52 PM

So sweet! I love the screaming...lol

MC 10-05-2010 02:06 PM

yeah i couldnt have done it... as much as i love GT-Rs if they said Matt where gonna take you around the ring flat out.. i dont think i could do it..... i would have been in the floor board the whole time... im one of those people that if im driving then i can go balls to the wall 150mph on a track but riding with someone im a total bitch and i get that horrible sensation in my stomach.. might have something to do with being scared of roller coasters as a kid or something.. haha

speaking of the ring.. it looks like the GT-Rs time is going to be in the neighborhood of 7:21.XX beating the Viper ACR.. so thats roughly over a 5 sec improvement over the current mode GTR

FuszNissan 10-05-2010 02:17 PM

That would be amazing, 5 second improvement!

theDreamer 10-05-2010 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 752120)
That would be amazing, 5 second improvement!

That's what she said!

MC 10-05-2010 02:25 PM

yeah the current time is 7:26.7 and at the ring this weekend they said on OCT 18 they will make a global announcement of the car and debut the new time which is a new record... and to my knowledge that record is held by the ACR with 7:22.xx so that leads me to surmise its 7:21 something.. but we will see in 2 weeks ( yes a porsche GT2 did 7:18 but it wasnt the full course)

the new power comes from a ECU remap and changes to the cats and muffler sections.. so thats 45hp with new suspension.. more rigid chassis and check this out... a new dunlop tire( its just the new version of the current DSST 600 CCT summer tire ... not sure what the change is though)... add all those up with Suzuki driving and i can see 5 secs

HKYStormFront 10-05-2010 02:44 PM

same turbo's matt? slightly more boost?

MC 10-05-2010 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HKYStormFront (Post 752175)
same turbo's matt? slightly more boost?

it looks like the turbos are the EXACT same ( as is the transmission) and the rumor about them being larger is not true.. i know the SpecV had a different turbine blade design so who knows if it adapted that under the radar or not..

im hearing its from yes more boost and a less restrictive exhaust set up.. and larger intake piping... basically they are doing a factory version of what alot of guys have been doing for a while now... even so the factory exhaust still will obviously be more restrictive than any good aftermarket... so i will atleast keep my HKS racepipe to use.. still 50/50 on using the legamax or staying stock cat back

FuszNissan 10-05-2010 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 752122)
That's what she said!

:icon18:

theDreamer 10-05-2010 03:05 PM

It will be interesting if the turbo is the same and the same PSI but they changed piping and exhaust (plus tune), will show some great gains on the stock turbos.

MC 10-05-2010 03:14 PM

yeah well a midpipe and exhaust on a stock GTR can be 20HP+ with no tune and about 2-3 mph in the 1/4 mile... then add a tune with just those bolt ons and your 70-80hp+ easily.... Nissan is going 40-45hp and still using 4 cat converters... and what appears to be just a slightly larger muffler section.. will be interesting to see what the PSI # is right now its 11ish so 12-13 maybe?

HKYStormFront 10-05-2010 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MC (Post 752215)
it looks like the turbos are the EXACT same ( as is the transmission) and the rumor about them being larger is not true.. i know the SpecV had a different turbine blade design so who knows if it adapted that under the radar or not..

im hearing its from yes more boost and a less restrictive exhaust set up.. and larger intake piping... basically they are doing a factory version of what alot of guys have been doing for a while now... even so the factory exhaust still will obviously be more restrictive than any good aftermarket... so i will atleast keep my HKS racepipe to use.. still 50/50 on using the legamax or staying stock cat back

all i have to say is i'm a fan of the blue tips :roflpuke2:

MC 10-12-2010 07:51 PM

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HKYStormFront 10-12-2010 09:21 PM

one thing about it, i like the placement of the LED strips now vs how the "OEM" ones from the JDM looked cheap and tacked on. these obviously look like they were thought of in advance but also maybe a bit more in a vulnerable spot compared to the old style

MC 10-13-2010 03:43 PM

http://www.gtrblog.com/wp-content/up...dbar35-001.jpg

http://www.gtrblog.com/wp-content/up...dbar35-003.jpg

http://www.gtrblog.com/wp-content/up...dbar35-002.jpg

m4a1mustang 10-13-2010 03:43 PM

omg that blue :drool: :drool:

MC 10-13-2010 03:50 PM

yeah ive never liked blue but i have to admit against that dark grey... its amazing

those pics give you the best look yet at the color and all the details of the change

theDreamer 10-13-2010 03:57 PM

Is that a lower rear fog I see on that last picture?

MC 10-13-2010 05:08 PM

yeah sort of a F1 style LED... and look close that part of the diffuser is dry carbon..

the car is really stepping up its use of materials.. i think in person its gonna feel and look more high end than the current car

in the UK this thing took at 10K jump in price.... its not looking good for a modest price bump here in the US...

should know the damage early next week

some new footage today

a walk around of the car... i can notice the exhaust is a little less muted at idle.. not a lot different but a start

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQNwU6C6esQ

HKYStormFront 10-13-2010 06:27 PM

i'm digging everything except the side vents on the rear. that blue is just incredible!

FL 4Motion 10-14-2010 05:58 PM

/\ did they really need to tape over the led's in that vid?? :)

MC--my new prediction for $$ based on the UK bump is now $95K for the US. I don't think nissan is willing to let the GTR drift over $100K here...yet...

HKYStormFront 10-14-2010 07:11 PM

that's a significant price hike over where the '09 GTR's came in at, especially the pre-orders for essentially the same car, just tweaked. still, the blue looks so amazing it might make up for it.

FL 4Motion 10-14-2010 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKYStormFront (Post 766021)
that's a significant price hike over where the '09 GTR's came in at, especially the pre-orders for essentially the same car, just tweaked. still, the blue looks so amazing it might make up for it.

That blue gets better every time I look at it, I think Matt should get it instead of another black one...:tup:

I suspect Nissan purposely undervalued the GTR when they brought it here to the states since it didn't have the "street cred", for lack of a better phrase, to get people to take a Nissan seriously that was priced at 6 figures, even though it delivers performance to warrant it. The R36 will be a $100+K car I bet. Nissan has established the GTR's credentials here now and they'll be able to get away with a $110K price tag assuming the R36 is even more awesome than the jump from the CDA to DBA R35. At 110K or so, it'd still be a steal for what you're getting.

MC 10-14-2010 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 765934)
/\ did they really need to tape over the led's in that vid?? :)

MC--my new prediction for $$ based on the UK bump is now $95K for the US. I don't think nissan is willing to let the GTR drift over $100K here...yet...


the LED's are just taped up yes...


as for the price bump... UK gets 10K bump... 60 GBP to 70 GBP... japanese only gets $2K bump ( but the way the yen coverts they are already at 110USD)

so yeah i think best case 89K then up to mid 90's like you predict... we should know in about 4 days

FL 4Motion 10-14-2010 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MC (Post 766075)
the LED's are just taped up yes...


as for the price bump... UK gets 10K bump... 60 GBP to 70 GBP... japanese only gets $2K bump ( but the way the yen coverts they are already at 110USD)

so yeah i think best case 89K then up to mid 90's like you predict... we should know in about 4 days


If it's a realistically low-mid 90's car, are you still gonna make the jump or just wait it out for the R36?

PS--get the blue if you do get one. :happydance:


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