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Blasphemy!
MT, so played out even lambos dont have them anymore. Pretty crazy stuff right there.
Lamborghini Giving The Boot To Manual Transmissions? - MotorAuthority |
I dont see an issue with this
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It is bound to happen. I think Ferrari said that on one of their cars in 2009 only 2-3% are sold in manuals so they dropped it from many of their cars.
I like manual still, but having not driven one of these cars with a very high quality paddle system I cannot comment on which I truly enjoy more. |
I'd definitely take an MT over an AT had it been available on our G's, a double clutch gearbox though like that on the Ferrari is just too good a bargain to pass on
The sound generated from the 60ms fuel cut during shifts is a symphony on its own to start with |
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"However, don’t expect advanced dual clutch transmissions to replace Lamborghini’s e-gear sequential automatic anytime soon. Reggiani pointed out that Lamborghini’s six-speed box is around 50 pounds lighter than a dual clutch unit and the automaker is opposed to unequal gear steps, as is the case with most seven-speed transmissions." |
these car companies make cars for performance, whatever gets them from point a to point b faster. AT's and DCT's have proven faster than MT's, so it only makes sense. Yes, the nostalgia of MT's is awesome, but when you're in a company that has to perform, you'll ditch the MT to shave a few tenths off that clock.
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With Dual clutch transmissions and paddel shifting, I don't see an issue either. It was only a matter of time until manual will be the thing of the past.
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Cool now maybe people will give more credit to an automatic sports car
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I just hate to see the AT stick on a sport car! The car will look better if they elimante the stick like Ferrari did.
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posted this in the :gasp: manual versus auto thread.
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i always wondered what it would be like to have a paddle shifter with a clutch the shifts would be faster but you would still have the joy that an MT has hmm
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Well said. Nostalgia rules manuals. Performance rules autos. |
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i would personally rather have the pleasure of shifting my own gears even if it means an extra few milliseconds around a track. not like i'm fighting for the F1 championship and every millisecond off the laptime is crucial. lambo :thumbsdown: ferrari :thumbsdown: |
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the technology that comes from the track trickles down to the [rich] avg joe in the italia458's, gallardos, etc. For ferrari or lambo or any other exotic company to continue to make manuals & autos instead of streamlining their efforts into a single system means more cash spent on something that doesn't make them faster on the track. will the elimination frustrate the public consumer market? sure, for awhile. will that cause them to stop buying them? nope. i'm sure it wasn't an easy decision for each company, but ultimately, they have to pay attention to the dollars and cents of the company and what will be good for them in the future in terms of their racing heritage. technology plays such a huge role in automotives now, so it was just a matter of time before they made the manual inferior. it could be really amusing if tuning shops start figuring out ways to retrofit future sports cars with a proper shifter and clutch....just some food for thought. |
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I have 6spd...I like it, I like getting a feel of the car but I see what they are trying to do. |
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Allow me to assume that when you say these cars you are talking sports cars in general and not just the 370Z, because allot of these sports cars are designed to compete in Le Mans and various other motorsports events. It is simply not practical for a manufacturer to design both a manual and automatic transmission for the sale car. Particularly if one is substandard. Automatic transmissions are obviously capable and are proving to be an all around better transmission. I don't understand why you are so change adverse. |
From what I've read, manuals will be around for awhile. I'm unconcerned, and if they do disappear, then I'll just refurb my Z when the time comes. They'll take my manual from my cold, dead hands!
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i dont know if manuals will disappear entirely, but i could see a lot of sports cars (exotic and non-exotic) going to a single system (auto/DCT) for the cost benefit. I think manuals would still be an option in lower end cars, because like you said Pharmacist, they're cheap, so for the average car, the cost benefit is still there. majority of cars in europe are still sold in MT...
I definitely agree that the more advanced autos will trickle their way down to the avg car eventually, after the technology matures and factories are able to reproduce them at a cheaper (and profitable) rate. in the long run, i think this will also increase the price of the manual exotics we have left. they'll run in a higher demand because there are still plenty of drivers that want a MT. they're fun to drive, more involved, and the demand from the purists will drive that demand/prices up. the ferrari california and the 458 will probably be the last ferraris with MTs (i think?), so in 10yrs time, i bet their value will appreciate partially on the basis of what transmission they carry. |
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