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RN SHARK 04-05-2019 12:24 PM

ImportConvert has been balls out crazy for his little CX-5 on the forums recently. Let him have his time. Though he must think he is on a Mazda forum or something. I don’t know. Oh, and yeah, 250hp with AWD, that is about 170hp with AWD drivetrain loss. Cheers!

mikeb 04-05-2019 02:25 PM

Lol. Can a CX-5 traverse a pothole, expansion joint, railtrack, etc better than a Z. Yep, it probably could.

Rusty 04-05-2019 02:26 PM

A CX-5 is a different critter then a Z. :shakes head: Comparing the 2 is just fvcking stupid. :shakes head:

Rusty 04-05-2019 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RN SHARK (Post 3840522)
ImportConvert has been balls out crazy for his little CX-5 on the forums recently. Let him have his time. Though he must think he is on a Mazda forum or something. I don’t know. Oh, and yeah, 250hp with AWD, that is about 170hp with AWD drivetrain loss. Cheers!

He misses us. But doesn't have a Z to talk about. So he wants to talk about his CX-5. And no one really cares. He has detoured 2 threads here so far.

ImportConvert 04-05-2019 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3840519)
...........i wasn't gonna jump into this thread. However, did you really compare a CX5 to a Z and go even further to say it has better handling? i think it may have been in need of a driver mod if thats your findings :bowrofl:

what in the actual fuck :facepalm: i hope you're just trolling.

:gtfo2: if serious.

Not trolling as hard as Nissan was when they set up that suspension. Bouncy bouncy.

Seriously though, you guys are trying to compare 370z to Camaro and Mustang, and that makes even less sense. 80hp gap between my cx5 and your Z, and my cx5 has 40# more torque than your Z. Camaro has what, 118hp more than your Z? Yet you compare...and then we have people comparing a Z to corvette handling...even more ludicrous. Ive owned a Z, a Z06, and 2 CX5s. Go drive them all. Get back to us.

Im just commenting on suspension though. The cx5 gtr is much more composed than the 370z in the corners, etc. if any ireegularities exist. Its just a better balanced suspension regwrding rebound control. No amount of driver mod can overcome the fact that when you hit an expansion joint, the rear end is going to dance sideways in the corners, etc or when you encounter dips at speed, its going to break traction. It can only help in dealing with those foibles. Foibles unique in my driving experience to the 370z, compared to the other cars mentioned.

Seems that Im not the only one who notices the finer nuances of suspensions...
https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/20...nissan-370z-2/
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While the suspension is certainly firm, it takes the edge off road imperfections and no longer tortures the car’s occupants. Evenly spaced expansion joints at highway speeds can provoke rhythmic bouncing, but the amplitude is much less (and so much less likely to induce nausea) than before.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...omaniac-14710/

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1 fast, good handling 2010 Nismo 370Z: Check. (The "good-handling" part does come at the expense of an overly bouncy ride—we're definitely not talking BMW M3-like suspension calibration here. But the Nismo sure can "get it done" through any reasonably smooth turns.)
https://autoweek.com/article/car-rev...g-review-notes

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The 370Z does have a bouncy ride, which an owner would have to get used to. And this is coming from an enthusiast who would take a Caterham for a daily driver.

Read more: https://autoweek.com/article/car-rev...#ixzz5kFl4mNG8
Pretty much mirroring what I've said all along...

FPenvy 04-05-2019 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 3840549)
Not trolling as hard as Nissan was when they set up that suspension. Bouncy bouncy.

Seriously though, you guys are trying to compare 370z to Camaro and Mustang, and that makes even less sense. 80hp gap between my cx5 and your Z, and my cx5 has 40# more torque than your Z. Camaro has what, 118hp more than your Z? Yet you compare...

Im just commenting on suspension though. The cx5 gtr is much more composed than the 370z in the corners, etc. if any ireegularities exist. Its just a better balanced suspension regwrding rebound control.

well then if you're serious.......

i'll address your comments in order.

the Z is comparable to mustang and camaro regards of HP gap due to the fact it can handle quite well. i have played around against both cars and the Z holds up well to the point depending on launch i've kept up to and/or beat a new 5.0 mustang.....in mexico of course.

as for the suspension, what was wrong with your Z that you experience was that bad? also what is your age? seems to be weak, whiny, older guys who say the ride and suspension sucks and buy soccer mom SUVs. although i know multiple distinguished older owners in here who roll on full race setups like gangsters.

i'm pushed my Z on stock suspension/brakes very hard and it feels great. the one failing part i've experienced was rolling a tire sidewall. those tires got switched at the end of that season.

and yea i'm sure an MX5 feels more composed when you can't get it past 80mph. :rofl2:

ImportConvert 04-05-2019 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RN SHARK (Post 3840522)
ImportConvert has been balls out crazy for his little CX-5 on the forums recently. Let him have his time. Though he must think he is on a Mazda forum or something. I don’t know. Oh, and yeah, 250hp with AWD, that is about 170hp with AWD drivetrain loss. Cheers!

Lol, I never said it was fast. Just composed. Its around 200whp, btw :P

Mainly, Im stoked over the level of OEM polish the thing has, not its raw numbers. Something the Z crowd can surely relate to with a 100hp deficit to every other car in the 370s segment...?

ImportConvert 04-05-2019 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3840552)
well then if you're serious.......

i'll address your comments in order.

the Z is comparable to mustang and camaro regards of HP gap due to the fact it can handle quite well. i have played around against both cars and the Z holds up well to the point depending on launch i've kept up to and/or beat a new 5.0 mustang.....in mexico of course.

as for the suspension, what was wrong with your Z that you experience was that bad? also what is your age? seems to be weak, whiny, older guys who say the ride and suspension sucks and buy soccer mom SUVs. although i know multiple distinguished older owners in here who roll on full race setups like gangsters.

i'm pushed my Z on stock suspension/brakes very hard and it feels great. the one failing part i've experienced was rolling a tire sidewall. those tires got switched at the end of that season.

and yea i'm sure an MX5 feels more composed when you can't get it past 80mph. :rofl2:

I was in my late 20s when I had my 370z, and part of my observation comes from that I went from a c6 z06 with a much more buttoned down suspension to the Z. My sole complaint about the Z was that it was oversprung and underdamped for any environment with ripples or bumps or anything. Even Spring Mountain would be annoying with the dip on the back curves with with poor rebound control.

I find the flaw amusing and even more offputting, considering even my CUVs dont share it.

FPenvy 04-05-2019 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 3840555)
Lol, I never said it was fast. Just composed. Its around 200whp, btw :P

Mainly, Im stoked over the level of OEM polish the thing has, not its raw numbers. Something the Z crowd can surely relate to with a 100hp deficit to every other car in the 370s segment...?


i dont like this tactic switch to flattery.........:wtf2:


regardless the comparison of an MX5 and Z is just ridiculous. obviously some soccer move SUV is gonna be "composed". it's not a sports car its meant to keep someones wife comfortable with a turbo 4 banger that she may never get into boost with.



:worship:

ImportConvert 04-05-2019 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3840557)
i dont like this tactic switch to flattery.........:wtf2:


regardless the comparison of an MX5 and Z is just ridiculous. obviously some soccer move SUV is gonna be "composed". it's not a sports car its meant to keep someones wife comfortable with a turbo 4 banger that she may never get into boost with.



:worship:

Boost off idle bro...310# torque by 2k rpm :P

Anyway, no, its simply better composed. Same corners, same speeds, no sideways stepout like the 370z.


Speaking of absurd comparisons, this all started because you all were absurd enougb to compare this 370z with a c6 corvette, even saying "it drove like crap"... An even larger performance gap than my cx5 to your 370z...would be that c6 vs. the 370z. Huge gap.

FPenvy 04-05-2019 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 3840558)
Boost off idle bro...310# torque by 2k rpm :P

Anyway, no, its simply better composed. Same corners, same speeds, no sideways stepout like the 370z.


Speaking of absurd comparisons, this all started because you all were absurd enougb to compare this 370z with a c6 corvette. An even larger performance gap than my cx5 to your 370z...

whoa now. reading comprehension needs to gain some attribute points.....i did not mention a vette once so far. got the wrong guy.


i mean i can if you want......like the OP wasted money buying a base model when everyone knows the Z51 is really the only choice if not buying GS/Z06/ZR1.......

:wtf2:

ImportConvert 04-05-2019 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3840560)
whoa now. reading comprehension needs to gain some attribute points.....i did not mention a vette once so far. got the wrong guy.


i mean i can if you want......like the OP wasted money buying a base model when everyone knows the Z51 is really the only choice if not buying GS/Z06/ZR1.......

:wtf2:

I said "you all". Should have said "some of you". My point was, the comparison absurdity wasnt began by ME.

FPenvy 04-05-2019 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 3840562)
I said "you all". Should have said "some of you". My point was, the comparison absurdity wasnt began by ME.

Z vs CX5 - absurd

Z vs camaro/mustang - normal

Z vs Vette - absurd

the enjoyment i get from fuckin with everyone on the forum - normal

:ughdance:

mikeb 04-05-2019 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 3840549)
...Ive owned a Z, a Z06, and 2 CX5s. Go drive them all. Get back to us.
.

Several forum members have done just that; they've have driven vettes, caymans, stangs, and all other beasts. I know because I read thru those opinions closely before I purchased my 2015. Now that I've owned the car for over yr I agree with the majority. My Z suspension feels well damped, however our roads a decent and my Z is low mileage and in great condition. My take away from your experience is that perhaps the 2012 had dampening issues or *your* particular car had issues. Perhaps your road are really that bad or maybe Nissan sorted things out in later models. Either way, you are swimming upstream on this forum

ImportConvert 04-05-2019 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeb (Post 3840565)
Several forum members have done just that; they've have driven vettes, caymans, stangs, and all other beasts. I know because I read thru those opinions closely before I purchased my 2015. Now that I've owned the car for over yr I agree with the majority. My Z suspension feels well damped, however our roads a decent and my Z is low mileage and in great condition. My take away from your experience is that perhaps the 2012 had dampening issues or *your* particular car had issues. Perhaps your road are really that bad or maybe Nissan sorted things out in later models. Either way, you are swimming upstream on this forum

They changed shocks and struts in 2013. I will never own another Nissan again, so I cant comment on the effect of that change.


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