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cossie1600 03-11-2019 11:43 AM

No fixes are going to happen overnight, all we can do is minimize our output if possible.
This applies the same with natural resources, food and many other things.

cossie1600 03-11-2019 12:33 PM

We will trade you Trump for JT, we will add Ivanka and Jared.

Nissan received state incentives to move to TN, the state incentive is nothing new. Every state tries to lure business with incentives. You should call all these big companies welfare users.

The tax credit was used to encourage sale of zero or super low emission vehicle. You are right it helped launch the product, the government did it to encourage zero to low emission vehicle. Given 8% of new cars sold in CA have a plug now, I would say the incentive did its job to encourage more sales. CA sold 2 million cars last year, I think all of Canada sold that much.

Toyota Mirai is doing great, selling about 300 copies a month. Leases are $400 per month with zero down. You can get a free hydrogen card too.


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Originally Posted by ZCanadian (Post 3833000)
I think I am quite clear about the difference between a loan and a grant. I never mentioned loans. "Government handouts and incentives" was the term I used, and the Nevada deal was a doozie. Your knee-jerk response is just wanting to defend the indefensible. And you can have JT and his tom-foolery if you want him, 'cuz we don't. ;-)

The tax incentives were there as a government gift to manufacturers of EV's, who didn't therefore have to produce a competitive product. It was far easier to lobby politicians and charm them into thinking it would look "green" on their CV, than to do the work to get the cost of the car and the technology down. Or to convince consumers to pay the extra cost and "take one for the team" as it were.

I'm not against electrics. But I think that Fuel Cell will be the way of the future and for governments to force the market's hand like this is not appropriate.


ZCanadian 03-11-2019 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 3833003)
No fixes are going to happen overnight, all we can do is minimize our output if possible.
This applies the same with natural resources, food and many other things.

on that we are in agreement.

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 3833013)
We will trade you Trump for JT, we will add Ivanka and Jared.

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No deal!

:tiphat:

Zingston 03-11-2019 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian (Post 3833070)
on that we are in agreement.



No deal!

:tiphat:


Well, that deal could be worse. I mean he could have been offering Hillary.

cossie1600 03-11-2019 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian (Post 3833070)
on that we are in agreement.



No deal!

:tiphat:

We add a player to be named later? Our first round draft pick mike pence? We will eat some salary too

cossie1600 03-11-2019 04:35 PM

We will even tAke the cocaine guy from Ontario

ZCanadian 03-11-2019 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 3833079)
We will even tAke the cocaine guy from Ontario

Go on... You've got my interest. LOL

Rusty 03-11-2019 06:09 PM

We will get you all the socialists running for president, plus AOC and Omar. We want nothing back in return. :tup:


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