Tesla Roadster 2020
 

I have posted this somewhat all over the forum and thought I would start a thread.Some of this will be repetition.Want to respect our 370Z forum.I have owned a lot of cars and this is the best forum I have been on.

First off.I love my 370Z twin turbo roadster.The epitome of a classic sports car.

Tesla cars have intrigued me since I drove a Model S P 100 D.Unreal performance.

I like roadsters and Tesla was just not building the car I wanted with performance,styling and price.Tesla started the company with a Roadster.

Went back and forth on this because we have seen prototype but not production car and price is high.

At my age I do not have time to wait for all the electric sports cars we will see introduced in the coming years.

I put 50K down on the base 200k model.The Founders version will be out first at 250k.Prices before options but I do not want a self driving car option.That defeats the whole purpose of buying a sports car.

I have listed this on another post but will list the specs again.

0-60 mph 1.9 seconds.
0-100 mph 4.2 seconds
Quarter 8.8 seconds
Top end above 250 mph
All Wheel Drive
620 mile range on full charge.
7,376 Foot Pounds of Torque
Tesla says the production car will have better specs than this.

When do I get the car?Elon is not that great at meeting deadlines.So I will see.

My insurance agent will be happy.

I will post the good,bad and ugly of this adventure.

Congratulations! What an amazing purchase. Electric supercars will easily outperform anything else!

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Congrats! I hope you don't have to wait too long. Do they have an estimate on wait time? The car looks incredible with the stats to boot!

Founders version out in 2020. I look to get mine late 2020 or early2021.

I have been crazy about cars my whole life.Since my 1948 Studebaker Starlight coupe that I got when I was 13.

I grew up in the age of muscle cars.Had 1970 chevelle 396(In reality was a 402) in High School.

1974 Opec oil embargo.The price of oil quadruples.The 450hp + muscle cars are dead.Move forward to 1977 and the base Corvette puts out 180HP.

New muscle car renaissance in my opinion started 1992 with Dodge Viper.

Now we have more 450HP+ cars to choose from than every.

I have owned over 60 interesting automobiles in my life.Runs the Gammit.Cars have always been a big part of my life.(Still hate doing body work).

My whole life has been big V 8s.Nothing like exhaust note of an Italian V 8.(Diference in the cam shaft)

Now we have come to a cross roads.They have solved the battery problem.The electric motor is takeing out the internal combustion engine.

I have hands on knowledge of cars going back 70 years that I have worked on.

Like it or not this is a Halo moment in Automotive History.

I thought I need to experience this.

Confirmation
 

Took a week to get confirmation after sending them money.
Hope I will get this car while I'm still living.

370Z Forum
 

Have been on a lot of car forums over the years with different cars I have owned.

The 370Z Forum is the best for help in making your car handle better and go faster.

With the Tesla coming in the future I have been trying to learn about electric cars.

Tesla forum is different when I ask questions about the motor performance or battery questions.

A lot of Ellon Musk kool aid drinkers.Replys are all fluf and not technical.

Like how they named thier car.

Good luck with that forum.

Yes

I will have to find info on my own.

I'll be the slow guy in the roaring engine smelling my exhaust fumes and working on my engine... Not buying upgradeable battery packs. Thank you!

I have allways worked on my cars.Love the sound of of V8s.I still own several V8 cars and my twin Turbo Z.
This is not easy for me ether.All car companies are headed in this direction.
You can like it or not like it but it is happening.
Steep learng curve.A lot more than just upgradeing battery packs.

You are absolutely right. Electric is the way of the future. I still don’t know if that will be fuel cell or battery, but only one of those is here, now, in any meaningful way. So great for you for catching that train just as it is leaving the station.

I know what electric boost can do on a sport hybrid, and can just imagine what it will be like on a sport-tuned pure electric.

I’ve got no beef with electric, except range and the realities of charging once this format becomes mainstream. It’s autonomous that I cannot stand (though I can see the argument for that as well - just wait until I’m dust for it to happen, please).

I hope that this car is everything you want and expect it to be. And that delivery is as quick as possible. Waiting is never fun, and that’s a long one.

I'm curious how insurance will handle these. There's a lot of people buying them that have no idea how to handle that kind of power on the track, much less public roads. I know a few and fully expect one of them to be the first to wreck theirs :icon17:

Performance wise the whole industry needs to reinvent themselves. Manufacturers of air filters, cams, turbos, exhausts...they have no market anymore in 10-15 years from now.

Next to that, cars are going to be so hard to work on, no way Tesla will let anyone break into their "engine management system". Also what are you going to do about the shock absorbers? They will all have adjustable air ride, And I bet you will have to put in over 7-8k USD before anything in the market upgrades what you will have from factory.

So what's left? Brakes maybe? Different brake pads perhaps..

But think about it. The roadster is supposed to be such a good car... all I would want to spend money on is grippy tires and tracktime!

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I hope its something better. Electric cars still require fossil fuels to run due to charging via "outlet" and the batteries are highly toxic(maybe theres a good way to dispose of them I dont know about)

PIEV’s perhaps, but not fuel cell.

Will be some crashes if inexperienced people buy these cars.

I'm not getting this car to go green.
In my state that is a bad word.
I live in a state of coal fired power plants and Oil output of a million barrels day.

Just looking at performance.

:iagree:
Performance is staggering :tup:

I posted update in off topic but thought I would put something here.
Have been e mailing Tesla since January but they are tight lipped.
Founder model which costs more will be out first.This car will have the space X rocket thruster option (As if the car needs to go faster).I ordered the base model which will come next.I hope to get car late 2020.From what I hear;car will surpass specs that are listed.Insurance is going to be high thats if they will insure Roadster.

Sounds like youve worked hard, lived right, and made a decision. I hope its everything you want it to be!

Life is short and this car might make mine shorter.

Rocket thruster option? Will the 2022 model include the nuclear cooling upgrade?:driving:

This is how people think Musk will do it.Tesla will use composite over wrapped pressure vessels from space x as trusters.They store and quickly release pressurized air.Ten thrusters will be mounted around car to help excelerate,,help braking and help cornering.

Nifty! How well do they expect the car will perform in zero gravity?

Given Tesla’s inability to meet delivery deadlines or targets in genreral (to say nothing about profitability), I hope this vehicle materializes in the timeframe you are hoping for.

Porsche’s Taycan lineup, with similar timing and priced between Panamera and Cayenne, will hurt Tesla. It needn’t be a death punch, but I don’t know how much more that company can take.

I have zero faith in Tesla, as a company, but OP probably knows all this at least as well as we do, and decided to shoot his shot, so I'm pullin' for 'em!

Tesla has done a poor job of meeting promised deadlines.I think Musk makes deadlines that are not realistic.I would not be surprised to see my car late 2021 or early 2022.

Tesla has a lot of irons in the fire.New crossover.Semi truck production.They are also working on pick up truck.Model S needs a refresh.

Cars can have issues with fit and finish because they are rushing to get them out the door.The model 3 is more complicated to build than it should be.

Tough time to be in car business.Detroit car makers are dumping sedans because they do not sell.People want trucks and SUVs.

Tesla is top heavy with sedans.

The Porsche Taycam would compete against the model S.No competition for the Roadster.Taycam looks nicer to me than S.
Specs on Porsche are nothing special.300 mile range.0-60 3.5 seconds. Model S is faster and has longer range.

What they do make a big deal out of is fast chargeing.They use a 350 volt system to charge.This is great for home but network needs to be built for Porsche.This is faster than Tesla.Both cars will charge to 80% in 30 minutes.
Fast charging wears out batteries faster.

I have never seen an auto maker do so much in such a short time as Tesla.The company will be 15 in July.Most start up car companies fail long before that.

Will get tougher for Tesla as other big money companies get in the game.

Tesla has the advantage in battery technology.They can pack more power into lighter batteries.

Who knows what electric sports car we will see in future.Compition is a good thing.

Maybee we will see a merger?

Tesla would have failed many times over if Musk didn't rob peter to pay paul, with the rest of his ventures. The 4th quarter of 2018 was literally the first time in those 15 years that Tesla posted profits in two quarters, back to back (it only posted a profit for ONE OTHER QUARTER since 2015..., as of Dec 2018). That year their over-all loss was $1B.

I personally hate Tesla and the hype around them, but you, OP, have worked hard, and I respect that and truly hope you get what you want, how you want.

Similar business plan as Amazon.I could never pull trigger on stock as this book seller kept loosing money.They lost money year after year as they where building infosturture.Look at the monster today.You are right about Tesla(Elan Musk)I do not care that much about company but I do want that Roadster.

0ne more note.The car company is named after Nikola Tesla.I have the upmost respect for him.I think Tesla was one of the greatest who every walked the earth.People get Elan Musk,Tesla motors and Nikola Tesla mixed up.

The history books would have you believe Thomas Edison > Nikola Tesla

:rolleyes: :shakes head:

Because good PR beats actual product every time. *cough*Tesla*cough*

Thanks for the detailed reply.
And i do hope to see pix of you in your Roadster. Think it will be a very cool car. Fingers crossed for sooner than we both fear!

Tesla making me nervous.Cash problems.Hope to see Roadster in production.

I was so excited about this car.

Dealing with Tesla sucks.Never respond to e mails.You can not talk to customer support by phone.Only by e mail or chat.Worst customer service.

I have concerns about Tesla having to restructure debt load.

I decided to cancel order.Have sent form 3 times to Tesla.They say they do not have.I show them copies of the email.You need to resend.In my opinion I would say they make this difficult on purpose.They have a lot of my money they are getting interest off.

Even if the Tesla Roadster turns out to be a great car I will not buy one if I have to deal with their customer support.

Will wait for other automakers to catch up and build a fast roadster.

Tesla now has a new policy on their forum.No longer open to everyone.Only current owners can post.

Really sorry to hear, Baronsmokes.
Having seen some stuff online, I'm not surprised.
Perhaps you got out at a good time - you will get your money back (I suspect thousands won't, when the house of cards comes down), AND, if this is the service you get as a prospective customer, just imagine how they'd treat you AFTER they got ALL of your money. Without a dealer network, you would be one against the machine. Good luck with any warranty issues. Or having fit and finish issues (of which I hear there are lots) addressed.

See what the Porsche product evolves into. Audi and Volvo are impressing with their new electric product. Maserati is hoping to do the same, including with a performance coupe (WARNING about that last one thought - Italian company customer service is as bad or worse than you describe - does not matter if it is cars, bikes, guns or marble!).

We're on the cusp of an electric car revolution as the tech goes critical mass. There will be lots of options coming down the pipeline in the next 3-4 years. You don't HAVE to go to Tesla to get something that isn't a refrigerator on wheels. And I suspect Tesla will fold once mainstream makes with deep pockets bring their offerings to market.

Now, if only the infrastructure to charge these things can keep up!!!

Good luck (with the refund and with the replacement).

Tesla seems to be in disarray right now.Even people who are true Koolaide drinkers are becoming disillusioned.

My friend who has owned Tesla's for years sold his.He loved car but long wait to get repairs done.They did not have parts.

Difficult to deal with customer service.

He paid $140,000 for car and thought service should be better.

He said it was not like this several years ago.
I wish Tesla the best but acting like a Ferrari dealership is not helping.