Nissan makEs automated Ebraking standard.
 

With the exception of nismo vehicles and a couple cars. Nissan will be braking for you in an emergency situation. How do you guys feel about that?

Nissan Adding Automated Emergency Braking to Most 2018 Models | News | Car and Driver | Car and Driver Blog

I don't even like my car shifting for me, let alone braking by itself.

Personally, I'm against it. But with growing population and the resultant increase in traffic density, I predict that the days of sports and muscle cars are very limited. Any time there is a traffic fatality that can be blamed on operator error, manufacturers will be forced to add more nannies to protect us from ourselves. We already have VDC that can't be disabled without making modifications. As we wean ourselves from fossil fuels, rising MPG requirements will mean smaller and smaller ICEs. I hope you like electric. ;)

This is heart 'braking' :)

No thanks. Cars have enough nannies as it is

You cannot override this.

Before you know it, cars will be like elevators...

On my Volvo this can be disabled. I never do cuz it works really well and its my wifes car. She isnt exactly Lewis Hamilton behind the wheel. LOL.

This is one of those things that I think is great for OTHER people to have ;)

It's for this very reason that I'm torn about how to respond.
For those who don't give a damn about driving, or are too self-important to pay attention, I pray that their vehicle has it and that it kicks in before they hit mine.

As for me, that sort of thing will cause me to take my money to another brand - at least until they have all gone this way (due to changes in "industry standards", pressure from their legal departments, or legislation).
If I can disable it legally (even with an "are you sure?" confirmation), then OK.
Requiring a modification to remove the feature may well spell insurance problems in the event of an incident, though. Not something one thinks about before hand, buy you may wish you had considered that after, God forbid, something terrible has happened!

I'm glad I'm old enough not to worry about losing all of my rights and privileges to suit the "lowest common denominator" driver, his lawyer, or his political representative. By the time that happens, I'll likely have surrendered my keys. Meantime, as long as my generation (baby boomer) still holds sway in the market, I think we're all safe. You are collectively welcome, for that, btw! :tiphat:

DISCLAIMER: as more and more automotive executives and their advisors are driven to work by mommy or still need their diapers changed 5 times a day, THE END of things as we know it might come sooner than I think!!!

If you're a conscientious driver I don't see what the big deal is as it shouldn't ever activate if you're paying attention. That said, it's there if you're ever eyeing that hottie on the side of the road at the wrong split second.

don't like, don't want
problem is some person has to program it to work...
so there will always be a chance for error,
along with some one trying to hack it and take control..

I'm guessing that you have never driven one for any length of time.

My wife's car has it. She has had the car for about a year, so I've driven it some. I've had the brakes activate a couple of times--quite the surprise! The first time I was going around the car in front of me as he was slowly making a left-hand turn but hadn't completely vacated our lane. Plenty of room, no issues imo. The car disagreed, and I wondered what in the hell all the beeping was about. A few seconds later I found out as the brakes were applied with force. Very unpleasant :ugh2:

But I have learned to obey the beeps. Big Brother knows best, I guess.

I admit, I have not. I've only had the blind spot monitoring but didn't have to deal with it applying the brakes. Can you adjust the sensitivity or turn it off?

If they are this intrusive I'm definitely a proponent of adjustments for sensitivity and an off switch!

Some cars I think yes but they better not do this for the gtr or Z because the people who drive those cars ACTUALLY pay attention to the road ahead of them and we appreciate driving our car and enjoy the drive we go on. Most of these dumb people who drive nowadays are worried about texting or whatever else. I think people need to get smarter on the road. And if cars are doing things for us then it will make the human driver even more stupid....

I can only speak for my wife's vehicle (Subaru Outback). To my knowledge the auto-braking can not be adjusted or turned off. Some of the other "smart" features can be toggled off/on, but I can't think of any off-hand that can be adjusted.

To be fair, I like some of them, particularly the "auto-adjust" cruise control (or whatever it is called). But I despise the lane-departure warnings and auto-correct. I do see the value of the auto-braking in theory, but it needs to be fine-tuned (at least from the version I have driven) for me to be completely sold.

There is no adjustment on our Volvo S60, its either engaged or disengaged using the interface on 7 inch screen. I dont think Ive ever driven another with it, maybe I have and didnt know its a feature if its as intuitive as the one on the Volvo. Say if Nissan had this on my 370 and it worked like it does in the Volvo I would have no issue. Cuz if it engages in the Volvo-u dun messed up boy.

My vision for the next 10-20 years is bleak for sports/fun cars.

Manual transmissions don't allow for automation of much of anything, so phasing them out in the name of performance to foster automation is happening.

Sports cars won't go away because they want to take them away entirely, but they'll become so innately expensive to own (i.e. insurance companies will charge premiums for non-autonomous cars as human operation is riskier than automated operation) that very few people will drive them anymore, companies won't have the justification to produce them any longer, and the species becomes endangered.

Cars like the Z don't fit Nissan's vision for an autonomous world. Standard emergency braking is just the next step of that vision.

I predict it will be in the 5-7 year range, but yeah, the driver-controlled, gasoline-powered vehicle is well on its way out. I can hear the fat lady warming up.

My guess is that the latest spate of 500+ HP* muscle cars is their swan song. Get 'em while you can.

*I heard that Dodge is releasing an 800+ HP Demon soon. :eek:

This is sad :(