2018 Hyundai Sonata... Better than Altima!
 

https://youtu.be/fcm-zCDUcrc

Who can argue that CVT is better than, DCT or Auto ??? Who can argue that Turbo power doesn't have more potential than a blue drive N/A? Kia Hyundai styling is superior and build quality has hit about equal to Nissan.

Contrary to what the elitists say. Hyundai has been showing big balls since 2010. And now, in 2018. They're really showing what they're made of.... Nissan is NOT!!

Nissan and Hyundai have reversed roles in the car industry. Nissan needs to catch up to Hyundai in every aspect except in the category of the GTR. Nissan has destroyed every advantage they had in the market.

First by going CVT
By not putting turbo engines in the right cars at the right times.
By neglecting the affordable sports car segment.

It seems Japan car companies are taking turns putting out their sports cars instead of competing. The Z is leaving so the Supra can enter. So what's next? The Supra will leave in 5 years so the Rx9 can enter. Japan is pu$$y right now.

Camaro's are sitting on lots yet Chevy STILL comes out with new model Camaro's!!! If sales dictated Camaro or Mustang? This would be their last model year or R&D would be defunded.
I am happy that Hyundai keeps striving. That Chevy Ford and Dodge ain't scared little pansies that think only green machines should have priority. Nissan should change their name after the Z is cancelled to "Loseon". The first car brand marketed to losers... :wtf2:

Agreed on the JDM dropping the balls.

but what are you smoking about camaro / mustang sales?

look at how much volume they are moving with the stangs/ maros/ even dodges..... with that many sold of course they will develop a new model year and constantly upgrade

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/attach...1&d=1454437178

in comparison the 370z sold TOTAL units in 2009 equal to mustangs sold in 1 MONTH (and 09 was the inception year with the most units sold...)

love it or hate it the pony cars have the affordable car market cornered, this is why the big JDMs are not making anything, its hard to compete with the camaro/stang performance/utility.

Still not an excuse for them not to try, release a proper 2+2 coupe pushing 400+ hp with JDM reliability and looks and take away the market shares from the big three.

First I'm talking right now in 2017, not a couple years ago.... You're also looking at mustang and camaro sales in comparison to Z sales. I'm looking at Camaro and mustang sales in comparison to actual camaro mustang previous sales. They have cars sitting on lots with deep discounts cuz they are not selling... they're giving away free carbon ceramic brakes on vettes cuz they're not selling as expected.. The camaro 5 sold like hotcakes compared to the 6 as did the mustang. Selling about 4,000 units a month when they're expecting to sell 9,000 is not selling well.

If you want to compare it to selling Z's it seems great cuz Z is selling 500 units a month. But expected sales of the. Z was meant to be. 1,250 cars a month. So in contrast, Camaro is doing poorly as well. They're expecting 9,000 unit money. Not 4,000 unit money.

So I'm apparently not smoking anything. In fact, I'm rather very clear in my thinking.