Never drove the 228i or Camaro's so I won't comment on those, but the M2 IMO is much better than the M235i.

Sooooo agreed...:bowrofl:

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-Clifford :tiphat:

The M4 is lagging behind all its competitors except the Lexus rcf.

I had to teach two of them recently that a modded CTSV is a bit more than they expected to run into.

So I finally got to see a M2 in person (I am not the person that goes to Cars and Coffee). It is small and bulbous, plus I am getting so sick of BMW blue. I am disappointed, but relieved that a BMW will never be in my future.

I am in a small minority because when I went to the track the other day the BMWs seemed to be out of place amongst the cool Miatas, Corvettes, Zs and Porsches. It's like a group of real estate agents took a wrong turn some where. I guess I don't get the allure...

Saw one at the dealership. It just seems to be badly proportioned and looks awkward to me. The M4 is not my personal favorite, but it looks better than the M2 I think.

This car has been out since late February/Early March. We're in August and not one review against any competitors. It's funny how they put the Z against anything in these trumped up awkward comparo's. But this M2 has only been compared to its predecessor.

I was hoping to see it against the F type S, The camaro v6 &ss as well as the mustang ecoboost &GT. The Porsche Cayman and 911 carrera. These are cars the Z has faced while not even being a close competitor in terms of car type. So I think the BMW should be subject to the same scrutiny.

I think BMW is protecting the M2 from negative criticism.

I think my interest in BMWs and Audis is dead. The only European made car I think I would ever consider would either be a Mercedes Benz or a Porsche. Everything else either seems too unreliable, boring or overhyped.

I feel the same exact way. N I even think the Porsche is understyled and overpriced.

Meh? There was a media embargo for some time then the reviews flowed fast.

The M2 has brought back a playfullness to the brand that has been lacking for some time, many reviewers attest to that, and is well reviewed.

Its also sold in a way to not cannibalize its big brother too much (notice there really are not many options for example) and that's not a bad thing per se. I do wish we got a 4 door in the US as I prefer the 4 door styling as more subdued (I own an E90 335d, quite stealth :)

Steering feel is subjective but panned universally on newer BMWs, the M2 seems to get it back to something fun, engine note works great vs the flat F80 sounds. Seems like they did a lot of good things with the car.

- b

Steering feel is NOT subjective. It is part of the sports car experience. If you don't have steering feel, it's very hard to call a car a REAL sports car.
What you can't sacrifice in sports cars.

HANDLING
Steering feel
Lateral grip
Ample power
Lighter weight (under 3500lbs)
Low center of gravity.

None of these are subjective. Not even a little bit. If you're missing one? You don't have a true sports car. PERIOD.

I'm looking for a true sports car.

Get an Elise or the new Evora 400. The early reviews of the new Evora are stellar here and in the US press.

http://jalopnik.com/the-lotus-evora-...r-d-1784855962

II want to like the Evora, but it's a cheesy looking car at the front end. Side profile is bland. I only like the back

A drive would change your mind. Go drive one or an Elise.