Lol Of course he loves the 7th/8th gen Max. Its a good substitute for the Avalon, for the octogenarian enthusiast.

I hope the new Z comes sooner than later, cuz then I may still be able to trade up and not lose anything

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Lol!!:roflpuke2:

The only reason why the Maxima is getting so much flack, is because... It has 4DSC everywhere and we all know it's not!! But if this car was marketed as entry level luxury with performance for those who enjoy driving. People wouldn't be disappointed with it...
It's not even the FWD, that doesn't push it out of the running. It's the CVT. They should've figured out how to run the 7at in the Max. Second thing, it can still be lighter. A car like this if marketed as 4DSC should have Altima weight. Which the 2016 Altima's refresh is very nicely done.

No joke man - I'm in a Q50S because of the Maxima's CVT. I drove a 2016 and the CVT killed the car. (The FWD part did a little bit too, but my Z had spoiled me with RWD to the point that I don't think I'll ever drive another FWD again for my primary car).

There was something about the cheap plastic paddles that were exceptionally fitting - the cheap "sports" driving experience brought by the transmission that they control. They spent so much in fit and finish with the interior and gave it the same paddles you get in the Altima in the SR trim instead of the magnesium paddles in the Infinitis, the 370, and the GT-R.

Ultimately, I agree - if they didn't push this as a sports car in their marketing, this would be a fantastic premium level sedan and I wouldn't have jacked up expectations going into the test drive. It's far nicer than the Altima (it should be for the money) and it fits in Nissan's premium offerings (Murano and Max look like the belong with each other). It's just not a sports car.

The Q50 is a luxury sports sedan, however, as long as you get the hydraulic steering and the performance wheel package and avoid the horrendous run-flats.

I'm curious, I recall when you picked up yours you said it had the electronic steering stuff and it was "OK" - have you changed your mind?

I'm one of those people who really doesn't like electronic racks due to the lack of feedback, so I would probably prefer hydraulic steering anyway, but I was doing the build thing on their web site and it seems like to get a lot of the premium options you have to get the electronic rack.

My car is a fairly rare bird - it's a stripped out Sport model. No Nav or Tech packages - basically zero options other than the brakes, aero bits, and wheels/tires that are the default on an S model. (It even has a CD player, whereas the teched-out models don't have a CD player anymore!) My car was a special order and the guy ended up backing out on it. However, there are plenty of Q50S models out there that are fairly light on options.

To get the steer-by-wire (called Direct Adaptive Steering), you must opt for the "Deluxe Touring Package" in whichever trim Q50 you're after. Otherwise, you get hydraulic steering, so mine is a good ol' hydraulic rack.

I did test drive a model that had the DAS option equipped, and while it's complete culture shock to a guy like me that drove a 370Z for four years, the system isn't anywhere near as bad as most people paint it to be on the auto blogs. Adjusting it to your preference is crucial, however - there are up to nine different configurations for it IIRC.

I drove my Q50 pretty hard on tail of the dragon, and found the feedback in the tight corners to be enough. It's nothing like the Z, but it still offered the right amount of feedback and felt precise enough for me to feel comfortable.

OP excellent write up...while still in search of a 4dr sedan I test drove the Q50, STI Limited and Maxima. The Maxima was definitely all advertising hype.

I think I'll stick to the purple 4th gen Maxima that's in the driveway

I just had a brand new Altima 3.5SL rental last week and I think the CVT is even worse than my 2008. Now Nissan has programmed in faux shifts but it seems to happen randomly. It also feels more awkward than just holding it at a certain RPM in my opinion.

Then when you got WOT and let off there's reverse throttle lag. IE) you get off the throttle and the trans doesn't let up for almost another full second. It scared me the first time. Pretty much reaffirmed my decision not to buy another Nissan until they scrap the CVT.

Ah, that's it.

Apparently, I remember reading your thoughts after the car that you test drove - NOT the one you bought.

Thanks for the info!

i saw it today on the road.


dat's about all i felt about the car. lol id much prefer the new murano vs this maxi