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Firebase99 07-03-2015 10:13 AM

Next generation Genesis
 
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If this is true I think I'll be in another Genesis.

2017 Hyundai Genesis Coupe - 2016 / 2017 New Car Models

Billibob22 07-03-2015 10:20 AM

But, but....

It's a Hyundai??


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Firebase99 07-03-2015 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Billibob22 (Post 3246984)
But, but....

It's a Hyundai??


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Well with 480hp and those looks for $10k less than a Z35 (which may never come) and all the tech and leather, I'll take my chances again.

Cell 07-03-2015 03:56 PM

I just got rid of my Hyundai veloster. I don't intend to buy another anytime soon.

"2017 Hyundai Genesis Coupe: Engine

Under the hood of 2017 Hyundai Genesis Coupe will be a twin turbo charged 3.3-liter V6 engine that will be able to deliver maximum of 480 horsepower. It has also been widely rumored that the vehicle will carry over its current 3.8L V6 as well as an improved four-cylinder 2.0-liter unit. At this year’s New York Auto Show, the Korean automaker confirmed that its 2017 Hyundai Genesis Coupe will gain a new twin turbo Tau 5.0-liter V8 that will provide an output of approximately 420 horsepower. This unit will also weigh far less than its predecessor."

So the V8 twin turbo will make less power?

Billibob22 07-03-2015 04:32 PM

Who wants a V8 then?


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Jordo! 07-03-2015 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99 (Post 3246988)
Well with 480hp and those looks for $10k less than a Z35 (which may never come) and all the tech and leather, I'll take my chances again.

Huh? A Z35 is confirmed, just no concepts yet :confused:

Jordo! 07-03-2015 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cell (Post 3247171)
I just got rid of my Hyundai veloster. I don't intend to buy another anytime soon.

"2017 Hyundai Genesis Coupe: Engine

Under the hood of 2017 Hyundai Genesis Coupe will be a twin turbo charged 3.3-liter V6 engine that will be able to deliver maximum of 480 horsepower. It has also been widely rumored that the vehicle will carry over its current 3.8L V6 as well as an improved four-cylinder 2.0-liter unit. At this year’s New York Auto Show, the Korean automaker confirmed that its 2017 Hyundai Genesis Coupe will gain a new twin turbo Tau 5.0-liter V8 that will provide an output of approximately 420 horsepower. This unit will also weigh far less than its predecessor."

So the V8 twin turbo will make less power?

It will probably make like crazy high peak torque at 1500 RPM and then fall flat on its face at 5K while the V6 will have less grunt off the line and rev higher for a more high strung/higher peak output motor -- IF those numbers aren't all make believe.

Which they probably are.

Firebase99 07-03-2015 06:11 PM

Well unfortunately a bunch of vets of my Genesis forum is calling BS on it. They said that a body kit that's been out a while AND what you guys said about the 6 making more power than the 8. Doesn't add up. Probably a pipe dream but I fricking love those #s and that body!!

Firebase99 07-03-2015 06:15 PM

On a side note my buddy who traded a 135i for an M3, the M3 for a Cayman S, the cayman for an Audi S5 and just traded the S5 for a 2013 Carrera GTS. Thing is AMAZING!!

jshare1 07-03-2015 06:33 PM

Id say telling people you drive a Hyundai is like telling people you did cardio at the gym, nobody brags about it

Firebase99 07-03-2015 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jshare1 (Post 3247232)
Id say telling people you drive a Hyundai is like telling people you did cardio at the gym, nobody brags about it

That's the thing...ever drive a 13+ Gen coupe 3.8? It's no slouch. The Z handles better, it's a bit quicker off the line. A bit. On a roll, stock for stock, a 3.8 will show its tailights to a 370. It's a great highway bruiser. It's not exactly a 370 in regards to sports car performance, I had a 370 too. But it's very close and where it murders the 370 is in daily driver comfort and tech. For less. They've come a long way.

jshare1 07-03-2015 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99 (Post 3247240)
That's the thing...ever drive a 13+ Gen coupe 3.8? It's no slouch. The Z handles better, it's a bit quicker off the line. A bit. On a roll, stock for stock, a 3.8 will show its tailights to a 370. It's a great highway bruiser. It's not exactly a 370 in regards to sports car performance, I had a 370 too. But it's very close and where it murders the 370 is in daily driver comfort and tech. For less. They've come a long way.

Yes I have driven one and just at the end of the day Hyundai just isnt for me. To each there own, at the end of the day looks like a revamped Tiburon.

JC-Nismo 07-03-2015 07:28 PM

The Genesis looks hot for the first couple of years and then after that, its like Eh..........
I remember when it first came out and I was like dam, but that diminished pretty quickly where as a Nismo Z still raises my eye brow especially when I see another one on the road.

Firebase99 07-03-2015 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jshare1 (Post 3247248)
Yes I have driven one and just at the end of the day Hyundai just isnt for me. To each there own, at the end of the day looks like a revamped Tiburon.

Fair enough. I'm with you on the looks. The looks have grown on me, I like it but admittedly, I rarely glance back after its parked which I did all the time in my 370. Sexy. But, it's a much better DD for me heavy south Florida traffic.

MicntaeG35 07-03-2015 07:55 PM

Idk if it's just me but if you take a split second glance at the concept, does it not ALMOST look like a GTR in the front

Firebase99 07-03-2015 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MicntaeG35 (Post 3247273)
Idk if it's just me but if you take a split second glance at the concept, does it not ALMOST look like a GTR in the front

Almost....damn, GTR is the first thing I thought of. But sexier. I love that body.

UNKNOWN_370 07-04-2015 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99 (Post 3246976)
If this is true I think I'll be in another Genesis.

2017 Hyundai Genesis Coupe - 2016 / 2017 New Car Models

Ummmmm.... That looks like a current gen with the Nissan Altima GT-R styled body kit retrofitted on a gencoupe. IMHO, it's time to let go of the 8 year old Nissubishi front end and it's time for Hyundai to step into "original" individual automotive designs.

God-Speed 07-04-2015 06:38 AM

Will just have to wait to see it in person!!

sunkist350z 07-04-2015 06:22 PM

ewwww..I would never buy a hyundai don't care if it has 500hp turbo

jshare1 07-04-2015 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sunkist350z (Post 3247645)
ewwww..I would never buy a hyundai don't care if it has 500hp turbo

but but but theyre affordable

Billibob22 07-04-2015 07:14 PM

Next generation Genesis
 
Im there also...
Its a Hyundai... Cant help it. I know they are known for their designs but still..... Its a Huyndai


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Lukcas61 07-04-2015 07:35 PM

Yeah, before I bought my Z I was really considering it. The only thing that kept me on the Z is that I look at it everytime I pass by the garage or when I park. The Genesis is a nice looking car but the Z is just so beautiful.

jshare1 07-04-2015 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Lukcas61 (Post 3247656)
Yeah, before I bought my Z I was really considering it. The only thing that kept me on the Z is that I look at it everytime I pass by the garage or when I park. The Genesis is a nice looking car but the Z is just so beautiful.

Really have to agree, Ive owned eh 8 different cars, none yet did I look back at like I do my Z

Firebase99 07-04-2015 08:26 PM

Not much love for the Genesis. Considering I traded a '13 Z for one I'm obviously in the minority. The Z is way overpriced for its bracket. And I've been driving Z's for 20 years. The Hyundai, no it's not a Z. It's not quite there in performance, very close though. And I was looking for a brand new, off the showroom floor GT that wouldn't break the bank. Every car company started somewhere and I'm astonished how far Hyundai has come in so short of a time. The tech, the luxury, the Z can't even come close.

sunkist350z 07-05-2015 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99 (Post 3247670)
Not much love for the Genesis. Considering I traded a '13 Z for one I'm obviously in the minority. The Z is way overpriced for its bracket. And I've been driving Z's for 20 years. The Hyundai, no it's not a Z. It's not quite there in performance, very close though. And I was looking for a brand new, off the showroom floor GT that wouldn't break the bank. Every car company started somewhere and I'm astonished how far Hyundai has come in so short of a time. The tech, the luxury, the Z can't even come close.

Its not that I don't like hyundai's I actually think the genesis sedan and equoes sedans are better looking than the high end Japanese and European sedans. They are coming close but not quite there as far as heritage and competing with the Z. I think the Z is a darn bargain sports car for this present time considering the 300zx twin turbo was almost 50k back in the late 90's.

UNKNOWN_370 07-05-2015 12:59 PM

It"But but it's a Hyundai". And all that anti-hyundai bullshyt is completely moronic and lacks education.

Hyundai is building cars with turbos DCT's and manual transmissions or AT's while Nissan has a CVT fetish.

Hyundai Genesis sedan 3.8 @ 38k base is as equipped as a 37k Nissan maxima... But the genesis sedan has a 8at with paddles and real manual mode while the maxima has a rubber band with a computer faking shifts.
The Genesis is a RWD and the maxima is FWD. WHICH IS THE REAL 4DSC?

I can do this model for model, Nissan vs Hyundai/Kia.

The Gencoupe is a great value for what it is. I prefer the 2 seat configuration and aggressive Z tuning. But the gencoupe is 88% of the Z with A TON more features for $2,500 less at base.

Brand for brand Nissan is gradual losing ground to hyundai overall. All because Nissan can't stop nuthugging CVT transmissions. The Z, GT-R n Juke is all we have hanging us by a thread.

jshare1 07-05-2015 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3247856)
"But but it's a Hyundai". And all that anti-hyundai bullshyt is completely moronic and lacks education.

Hyundai is building cars with turbos DCT's and manual transmissions or AT's while Nissan has a CVT fetish.

Hyundai Genesis sedan 3.8 @ 38k base is as equipped as a 37k Nissan maxima... But the genesis sedan has a 8at with paddles and real manual mode while the maxima has a rubber band with a computer faking shifts.
The Genesis is a RWD and the maxima is FWD. WHICH IS THE REAL 4DSC?

I can do this model for model, Nissan vs Hyundai/Kia.

The Gencoupe is a great value for what it is. I prefer the 2 seat configuration and aggressive Z tuning. But the gencoupe is 88% of the Z with A TON more features for $2,500 less at base.

Brand for brand Nissan is gradual losing ground to hyundai overall. All because Nissan can't stop nuthugging CuT transmissions. The Z, GT-R n June is all we have hanging us by a thread.

With just the utmost due respect I feel as anyone is afforded an opinion, just because a majority of the posts dont like Hyundai doesnt make us moronic nor lacking education.

kenchan 07-05-2015 01:08 PM

i think the mentality here is if you suck together, then it wont hurt as bad... haha :icon17:

UNKNOWN_370 07-05-2015 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jshare1 (Post 3247857)
With just the utmost due respect I feel as anyone is afforded an opinion, just because a majority of the posts dont like Hyundai doesnt make us moronic nor lacking education.

Actually, it is moronic to feel a sense of brand superiority when you're driving around in an equally sub premium vehicle. And it lacks education when people don't look at each model and see where it holds up in the segment. Hyundai Kia is giving enthusiasts the option of driving vehicles with manuals. More than what Nissan is doing.

Nissan removed paddle shifter on base Z's after 6 years of paddle shifting base Z's. Just as moronic as the comments about hyundai.

But I guess that's my opinion. :tiphat:

Oh for anyone trying to flame me.... I looooove my Z so don't even go there. I just call it for what it is...

Love it or Hate it.

UNKNOWN_370 07-05-2015 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99 (Post 3247670)
Not much love for the Genesis. Considering I traded a '13 Z for one I'm obviously in the minority. The Z is way overpriced for its bracket. And I've been driving Z's for 20 years. The Hyundai, no it's not a Z. It's not quite there in performance, very close though. And I was looking for a brand new, off the showroom floor GT that wouldn't break the bank. Every car company started somewhere and I'm astonished how far Hyundai has come in so short of a time. The tech, the luxury, the Z can't even come close.

I think the Z needs some improvements still for the money, but isn't horrible in terms of value.

-bring back the paddles in the base
-The older Bose radio in the 09-12 Z's should be the base radio
- it can use a better stock anti-roll set up.

If Nissan would fix these 3 things and keep the prices the same? The Z would be perfect at its price point.

To raise prices, I'd like them to reduce weight by at least 60lbs and increase power by 20hp.

Firebase99 07-05-2015 04:11 PM

Look I'm not saying the Genesis is a better car, let alone a better sports car than the Z. All I'm saying is it's close. And for the $ and my current type of it's better than my 370. They still have a few hills to climb to be on par with a Z, but again, they've come a long way in a very short time.

Firebase99 07-05-2015 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3247891)
I think the Z needs some improvements still for the money, but isn't horrible in terms of value.

-bring back the paddles in the base
-The older Bose radio in the 09-12 Z's should be the base radio
- it can use a better stock anti-roll set up.

If Nissan would fix these 3 things and keep the prices the same? The Z would be perfect at its price point.

To raise prices, I'd like them to reduce weight by at least 60lbs and increase power by 20hp.

In turn the Genesis needs to shed 100 pounds, gain 20hp/tq and get a MUCH better anti roll platform.

UNKNOWN_370 07-05-2015 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99 (Post 3247893)
In turn the Genesis needs to shed 100 pounds, gain 20hp/tq and get a MUCH better anti roll platform.


The 2 seat platform will always have the advantage. You can fit adults 5'8 and under in the back with legroom for a 6ftr. Unless the back gets BRZ small? The gencoupe will never handle like a Z.
The hyundai has too many limitations in the ECU for the gencoupe to get to Z levels as well. No DRM on the auto takes away from the shifting experience. No SRM. It has some ways to go to get close to a Z. But it begs the question...
Is it worth getting a G37s, if all you're needing, is solely performance? Not everyone needs such a luxed out cabin like the G or BMW 3 or 4 series. The gencoupe holds a beautiful position in the market.

Firebase99 07-05-2015 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3247896)
The 2 seat platform will always have the advantage. You can fit adults 5'8 and under in the back with legroom for a 6ftr. Unless the back gets BRZ small? The gencoupe will never handle like a Z.
The hyundai has too many limitations in the ECU for the gencoupe to get to Z levels as well. No DRM on the auto takes away from the shifting experience. No SRM. It has some ways to go to get close to a Z. But it begs the question...
Is it worth getting a G37s, if all you're needing, is solely performance? Not everyone needs such a luxed out cabin like the G or BMW 3 or 4 series. The gencoupe holds a beautiful position in the market.

No argument here. I did and do love the intimacy of the 2 seat sports coupe, especially the Z. Has a better "connection " than other two seaters I've driven. That being said, I've stated in other threads, for the $50k my friend plopped down a IS 350 FSport, my $32k Genesis doesn't fall short in most areas and exceeds them in many others. The Genesis isn't a sports car, like the Mustang isn't either. It's a Grand Tourer, the Z is a sports car. If I still wanted the sports car stuff and all it offers, bad and good, I'd have kept it. But for me, now, here, the Genesis is exceeding my expectations.

2009_370z 07-30-2015 05:04 PM

I like it LOL. If I wasn't driving a 370, I would probably be in the Gen coupe.

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Originally Posted by Firebase99 (Post 3247670)
Not much love for the Genesis. Considering I traded a '13 Z for one I'm obviously in the minority. The Z is way overpriced for its bracket. And I've been driving Z's for 20 years. The Hyundai, no it's not a Z. It's not quite there in performance, very close though. And I was looking for a brand new, off the showroom floor GT that wouldn't break the bank. Every car company started somewhere and I'm astonished how far Hyundai has come in so short of a time. The tech, the luxury, the Z can't even come close.



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