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MC 02-02-2015 01:47 PM

GTR NISMO Beats Z06 & 650S at Willow Springs
 
GTR NISMO BEATS Z06 & 650S at Big Willow - R35 GT-R - GT-R Life


http://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.corv...31d61e11cd.jpg

theDreamer 02-02-2015 03:04 PM

Was reading this earlier today, sent to a friend who loves the Corvette & Z06.
His first reply was....45k price difference.

With the Nismo GTR I feel like it is pushing the price barrier a bit to far now, when they first came out you got a lot for the price, and even today it is a good price for the performance at the standard level. The Nismo edition is just leagues above it but for 150k seems a stretch for the car now.

DCNISMO 02-02-2015 03:08 PM

1.4 seconds for a lot more money, plus AWD. Perhaps the ZR-1, if and when it comes out will be a better choice to drive against the NIsmo GTR. But hey, I'll take either one. They should have thrown in the 991 Turbo S as well in this match-up. Or a GT3.

theDreamer 02-02-2015 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCNISMO (Post 3099689)
1.4 seconds for a lot more money, plus AWD. Perhaps the ZR-1, if and when it comes out will be a better choice to drive against the NIsmo GTR. But hey, I'll take either one. They should have thrown in the 991 Turbo S as well in this match-up. Or a GT3.

I don't think we will see a ZR-1 this go around, with the Z06 already having the SC it would have to be something crazy to pump a ZR-1 into the game.
Rumors of the mid engine car keep coming around, but that has been going on for a decade for GM & the Corvette so maybe by 2020.

Rid3_FaM0uS 02-02-2015 03:39 PM

I bet we see some sort of iteration of one dreamer; you know Chevy is going to want that top dog domestic horsepower spot again! Haha :P

kenchan 02-02-2015 04:45 PM

i wonder how well the viper does against the GTR nismo

MC 02-02-2015 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3099784)
i wonder how well the viper does against the GTR nismo



NISMO has beaten the Viper TA this year at both VIR Lightning Lap and road and track Mopar Mile

TerribleONE 02-02-2015 05:53 PM

:tup:

280z/300zx 02-02-2015 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 3099687)
Was reading this earlier today, sent to a friend who loves the Corvette & Z06.
His first reply was....45k price difference.

With the Nismo GTR I feel like it is pushing the price barrier a bit to far now, when they first came out you got a lot for the price, and even today it is a good price for the performance at the standard level. The Nismo edition is just leagues above it but for 150k seems a stretch for the car now.

I agree. When the GTR first came out it was a huge bargin, but it has since climbed in price with the performance upgrades over the years. Honestly I'm okay with that but Nissan needs to bring something to the table that is between the Z and the GTR. Something in the 50-60k range that can bridge the gap for those who want more than the Z but doesn't or can't afford the GTR. I know personally I'm looking at a Z06 in the next year or two for my next car. While I do love the car out right it's also at the top of my list because there isn't much else out there anyway. The domestic brands are the only ones who have performance at almost every price range 20K-100K+. Japan is more in eco mode with focus on fuel while domestics are doing both fuel and performance options. Japan in general needs to step it up

DCNISMO 02-02-2015 09:05 PM

They needed to make a turbo Z and price it at 52k or so. That would slot in above the Nusmo but under the GTR. I don't see it happening though for this .Z generation. Too bad as I would have got that.

MC 02-04-2015 02:48 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5F18o8xayA

kenchan 02-04-2015 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MC (Post 3099858)
NISMO has beaten the Viper TA this year at both VIR Lightning Lap and road and track Mopar Mile

im sure jlo is heartbroken... so much for spotify and sony :ugh:

UNKNOWN_370 02-04-2015 07:47 PM

I didn't expect any less. The GT-R is not just a performance bargain. It's a marvel in automotive performance. Brains usually beat Brawn. Hence the GT-Victory.

But these two cars are champions either way...

DCNISMO 02-05-2015 07:46 AM

Sounds like the Z06 needs an active rear spoiler, on the straights it get lowered but when you enter a turn and go through it, the spoiler pops up. So on the straight, less drag and down force...but in the turn you get that downforce and get though it better. Thats what I get from the video.

/Angelo350Z/ 02-05-2015 08:04 AM

Very impressive. The Corvette Forum's pretty hilarious; the thread went downhill rather quickly halfway though.

UNKNOWN_370 02-05-2015 08:36 AM

People screaming "I call ********" I bet? Lol

Lemme go creep. Lol

DCNISMO 02-05-2015 09:23 PM

Quote:

The Corvette Forum's pretty hilarious; the thread went downhill rather quickly halfway though.
I don't get on Vette, BMW, or Gixxer forums………utterly fan-boy juveniles. I also gave up on the Vortex as well. Although my Nismo was two cars ago, I still enjoy this forum. Rennlist, which I'm on…..can be a bit snotty.

Spooler 02-08-2015 11:47 AM

ZO6 vs. Nismo GTR
 
This is interesting. Goes to show power does not always equate to being faster. Balance is key.

OUCH, it hurt some folks feelings. LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=watch?v=F5F18o8xayA

Read T 02-08-2015 01:40 PM

Is this surprising?

Chevrolet Corvette Z06 MSRP 79,999
Nissan GTR Nismo MSRP 150,000

Also, ZR1. Personally I'd get the 'vette and have a lot of money left over to have fun with. That's not to say they are both amazing cars.

MC 02-08-2015 02:32 PM

cant use price on this one

Z06 was loaded at 105K as it had the Z07 package with carbon brakes and cup tires all things the NISMO didnt have. the 105K Z06 is arguably better equipped for the track as tested

it should win because it costs more pricing logic also breaks down when the 150K NISMO also out lapped the $351K 650S Spyder the same day

jlo370z 02-08-2015 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3101935)
im sure jlo is heartbroken... so much for spotify and sony :ugh:

LOL Im good:happydance:

Nismo beating the Z06 makes me happy

Id love a photo of My Viper with Mc's Nismo..........

jlo370z 02-08-2015 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3102604)
People screaming "I call ********" I bet? Lol

Lemme go creep. Lol

The guy saying the Z06 will beat a La Ferrari is the best:roflpuke2:

Spooler 02-08-2015 11:11 PM

Seeing the Z06 fanboys showing the butthurt is classic. Randy Pobst reaction was classic. Made my day. I just wish they would fine tune the Nismo 370z for us poor folks who can't afford a Nismo GTR.

edk370 02-15-2015 02:03 PM

Amazing how that heavy GTR is so fast! The Z06 has got more power and weighs 300 lbs. less too...Yeah yeah, AWD launch, I know. But still it's amazing for what it can do.

UNKNOWN_370 02-15-2015 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edk370 (Post 3112551)
Amazing how that heavy GTR is so fast! The Z06 has got more power and weighs 300 lbs. less too...Yeah yeah, AWD launch, I know. But still it's amazing for what it can do.


But the Z06 had level 2 aero and was a manual.
Lets see what happens with level 3 aero and auto transmission?

MC 02-16-2015 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3112597)
But the Z06 had level 2 aero and was a manual.
Lets see what happens with level 3 aero and auto transmission?


im pretty sure the Z06 had the stage 3 aero because isnt that was the clear wickerbill and that seemed to be the problem. it was causing a lot of drag limiting its straight line acceleration. It was down 7+ mph to the GTR. MT removed the rear clear wicker bill that made it more like a level 2 aero. that improved the speed my 1MPH but made the car harder to control.

bullitt5897 02-17-2015 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MC (Post 3113176)
im pretty sure the Z06 had the stage 3 aero because isnt that was the clear wickerbill and that seemed to be the problem. it was causing a lot of drag limiting its straight line acceleration. It was down 7+ mph to the GTR. MT removed the rear clear wicker bill that made it more like a level 2 aero. that improved the speed my 1MPH but made the car harder to control.

You know the solution to drag?...

.... Moar POWAH! with 45k to spare I think you could definitely put something together to be more competitive with the GTR if not surpass it on the track.

For those speaking to money argument... I will say that it is a valid argument. Throw $45k into a Z06 with Z07 package and lets run them again... You are paying for more technology and exclusivity with the GTR nismo.

tomas6791 03-16-2015 05:36 PM

Car and Driver - C7 Z06 vs GT-R NISMO vs 991 Turbo S

http://www.dpccars.com/gallery/var/a...S%20-%2004.jpg

From the article:
Car and Driver - C7 Z06 vs GT-R NISMO vs 991 Turbo S, the winner is based on the best bang for the buck.

9 pictures and and complete article

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BrandonT 03-19-2015 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomas6791 (Post 3139667)
Car and Driver - C7 Z06 vs GT-R NISMO vs 991 Turbo S

Porsche must be sandbagging on their HP numbers. Look at that 1/4 mi trap speed.

Firebase99 03-19-2015 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrandonT (Post 3142278)
Porsche must be sandbagging on their HP numbers. Look at that 1/4 mi trap speed.

Yea, its ABSOLUTELY sick. Has ALWAYS been my dream car above ANY vehicle and the latest iteration of the Turbo is just mind boggling. The fecking thing runs with a Veyron-no joke. Sick.

tomas6791 03-22-2015 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrandonT (Post 3142278)
Porsche must be sandbagging on their HP numbers. Look at that 1/4 mi trap speed.

Big time sandbagging.


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