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evrumohr 07-02-2010 08:25 PM

Help! Traffic camera got me!
 
Ok so I was approaching a traffic intersection and I did not notice there were cameras there. I guess my fault was (If I really did do so..) not being able to stop before the pedestrian line. I guess my tires ran over or past it just a little bit. But here's my question... I'm a new proud owner of a 2010 370Z and I don't have license plates yet. Will they be able to trace the violation to me? I'm worried they might be able to since the registration sticker is visible on the windshield. Any input will be MUCH appreciated. TIA! :hello:

frost 07-02-2010 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by evrumohr (Post 604063)
Ok so I was approaching a traffic intersection and I did not notice there were cameras there. I guess my fault was (If I really did do so..) not being able to stop before the pedestrian line. I guess my tires ran over or past it just a little bit. But here's my question... I'm a new proud owner of a 2010 370Z and I don't have license plates yet. Will they be able to trace the violation to me? I'm worried they might be able to since the registration sticker is visible on the windshield. Any input will be MUCH appreciated. TIA! :hello:

I can't answer your specific question, but I did get a camera shot in a rented car and never received a ticket. These guys catch a lot of people, and tracing stuff like this is work, more work than many people will want to invest.

370Zsteve 07-02-2010 08:31 PM

"I don't have license plates yet."

:facepalm:

Zaggeron 07-02-2010 08:33 PM

You get a ticket for crossing the pedestrian line? I don't think they bother with that in TX, it's all they can do to get people to stop at all ...

theDreamer 07-02-2010 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaggeron (Post 604074)
You get a ticket for crossing the pedestrian line? I don't think they bother with that in TX, it's all they can do to get people to stop at all ...

Yep, in Texas you must follow travel through the intersection.
I know in Houston I believe 20% or so of camera shots are of people stopping late or right turns (neither of which get a ticket), and that is what the human is for to verify it is a legitimate ticket.

Zaggeron 07-02-2010 08:44 PM

lol. I think in TX there is one free car through the red light on a left turn.

mjch3n 07-02-2010 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 604072)
"I don't have license plates yet."

:facepalm:

I hope you know that in CA, our plates are sent to us by mail weeks after we purchase/drive the car off the lot, with dealer paper advertisements and a temporary window sticker. In NY as I recall, the plates were put onto the car at the time of purchase.

Josh@STILLEN 07-02-2010 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by evrumohr (Post 604063)
Ok so I was approaching a traffic intersection and I did not notice there were cameras there. I guess my fault was (If I really did do so..) not being able to stop before the pedestrian line. I guess my tires ran over or past it just a little bit. But here's my question... I'm a new proud owner of a 2010 370Z and I don't have license plates yet. Will they be able to trace the violation to me? I'm worried they might be able to since the registration sticker is visible on the windshield. Any input will be MUCH appreciated. TIA! :hello:

You're home free.. no way they are zooming in to read a registration sticker.

Those things are all about the power of numbers.. no one is going to sweat a car with no plates.. there's another 10,000 violations in line to move along to.

Josh@STILLEN 07-02-2010 09:17 PM

I've *ahem* heard of someone going months through the FasTrak system with no plates and never had any issues..

frost 07-02-2010 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN (Post 604163)
I've *ahem* heard of someone going months through the FasTrak system with no plates and never had any issues..

rofl, I did that in NJ

dad 07-02-2010 09:26 PM

I believe all the traffic cameras in California are from Arizona, just refuse to pay it on the grounds that your boycotting Arizona!

frost 07-02-2010 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dad (Post 604189)
I believe all the traffic cameras in California are from Arizona, just refuse to pay it on the grounds that your boycotting Arizona!

rofl, bastard! :roflpuke2:

Cmike2780 07-02-2010 09:39 PM

OP, don't sweat it. No plates, no ticket. They use a crappy 12 megapixel camera that barely captures a license plate from 50' away. Your registration will show up as a pixelated blur unless the font they used was 4" high.

TreeSemdyZee 07-02-2010 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaggeron (Post 604074)
You get a ticket for crossing the pedestrian line? I don't think they bother with that in TX, it's all they can do to get people to stop at all ...

+1
Blows me away how many people in my area blow through stop signs without even slowing down. I saw 3 people back-to-back run a stop sign in a busy area. Ticks me off big time.

209Z 07-02-2010 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN (Post 604163)
I've *ahem* heard of someone going months through the FasTrak system with no plates and never had any issues..

soo what u r saying josh is you? :happydance::driving:

Josh@STILLEN 07-02-2010 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 209Z (Post 604374)
soo what u r saying josh is you? :happydance::driving:

shhhhh.. ;)

evrumohr 07-02-2010 10:29 PM

thanks for all the input guys! Well what If they call the dealer I got the car from? I had the dealership's temporary plate on my rear bumper. Do they ever do that to get someone a ticket?

209Z 07-02-2010 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN (Post 604382)
shhhhh.. ;)

hahaha with the supercharged 370z perhaps :nutswinger:?

Josh@STILLEN 07-03-2010 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 209Z (Post 604400)
hahaha with the supercharged 370z perhaps :nutswinger:?

Steve Millen is a smart one turns out.. they don't let me DD the test vehicles.. :D

I can cause enough ruckus with my own '04 G.. although with all of the new stuff that's in and out of the shop these days.. It's definitely time to look at something new..

Josh@STILLEN 07-03-2010 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by evrumohr (Post 604383)
thanks for all the input guys! Well what If they call the dealer I got the car from? I had the dealership's temporary plate on my rear bumper. Do they ever do that to get someone a ticket?

No.. you're still fine.. and at that point you have an easy hour in the courtroom going.. how in the world can you prove that is me? argument..

It won't come up.. they literally have another 10,000 cars to deal with a month, yours will be skipped.

evrumohr 07-03-2010 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN (Post 604472)
No.. you're still fine.. and at that point you have an easy hour in the courtroom going.. how in the world can you prove that is me? argument..

It won't come up.. they literally have another 10,000 cars to deal with a month, yours will be skipped.

Thanks Josh! All the input makes me feel a lot better with my chances.

Off topic: I just bought a full exhaust set-up from Stillen. hehe!

Josh@STILLEN 07-03-2010 12:24 PM

That's awesome! I hope you enjoy it!

zmyride 07-03-2010 03:01 PM

I live in the Bay Area. I commute everyday and it costs $5 for the toll bridge. I have the Z for six months now, and i never put the license plates on the car, but i have the dealer advertisement plate on so they know where i bought the car from but they haven't been able to track me.

i've been practically driving over the bridge for free. but eventually i have to put the plates on, or someday i'm going to get pull over.

TongMan 07-03-2010 08:08 PM

No ticket for you sir. This is also a benefit for those vehicles that drive without a front plate. There are three requirements for issuing a driver a red light camera ticket:

1) clear picture of the rear plate
2) clear picture of the front plate
3) clear pitcure of the driver of the vehicle that caused the violation

If any of those elements are missing, you are safe. Beware of snitch tickets though. It is an attempt to make you admit to the violation.

Josh@STILLEN 07-03-2010 08:09 PM

The toll areas have lights on the backsides, which know two things, one if you don't have a transponder at all, and another light for have a transponder but no billable account (i.e. it hasn't been able to charge funds, they of course run a balance for you, don't just bill you for each charge).

The ticket for toll violation runs mid $200's.. so you'll have to factor whether the risk is worth it. On some areas of the Fastrak here in socal (known as the 241 fwy) there is typically a cop stationed in the morning looking for violators, but other areas, like the 91 fwy, is few and far between.

What was funny is a loophole for government workers, a provision developed in California to protect the identities of government/policeman to avoid retaliation or people finding out their information.

They can run through the tolls, but the fastrak people can't pull up their information to send violation notices.. so there are thousands of people who just roll through those bad boys and never get charged.

Loophole lets California workers get out of paying vehicle fines | abc30.com

evrumohr 07-03-2010 08:37 PM

Thanks for the info TongMan!

frost 07-03-2010 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TongMan (Post 605371)
No ticket for you sir. This is also a benefit for those vehicles that drive without a front plate. There are three requirements for issuing a driver a red light camera ticket:

1) clear picture of the rear plate
2) clear picture of the front plate
3) clear pitcure of the driver of the vehicle that caused the violation

If any of those elements are missing, you are safe. Beware of snitch tickets though. It is an attempt to make you admit to the violation.

That's a very specific reply, where is this written?

dad 07-03-2010 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 605430)
That's a very specific reply, where is this written?

My wife got one of those tickets about four years ago. Three, out of the 4 or 5 pictures, front&rear plate and her behind the wheel!

antennahead 07-03-2010 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaggeron (Post 604074)
You get a ticket for crossing the pedestrian line? I don't think they bother with that in TX, it's all they can do to get people to stop at all ...

He's in San Fran :bowrofl:

Zaggeron 07-03-2010 10:45 PM

:ugh: I was comparing Cali to TX

nogoodname 07-03-2010 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by evrumohr (Post 604063)
Ok so I was approaching a traffic intersection and I did not notice there were cameras there. I guess my fault was (If I really did do so..) not being able to stop before the pedestrian line. I guess my tires ran over or past it just a little bit. But here's my question... I'm a new proud owner of a 2010 370Z and I don't have license plates yet. Will they be able to trace the violation to me? I'm worried they might be able to since the registration sticker is visible on the windshield. Any input will be MUCH appreciated. TIA! :hello:

You sure it was a camera??? Otherwise it could have been these hooligans :shakes head:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzJjeBJY6hg

Trips 07-03-2010 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by nogoodname (Post 605717)
You sure it was a camera??? Otherwise it could have been these hooligans :shakes head:


[YOUTUBE]KzJjeBJY6h/YOUTUBE]

:bowrofl::roflpuke2::inoutroflpuke:

nogoodname 07-03-2010 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 605726)
:bowrofl::roflpuke2::inoutroflpuke:

:icon18: told ya it was funny!!

frost 07-03-2010 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nogoodname (Post 605717)
You sure it was a camera??? Otherwise it could have been these hooligans :shakes head:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzJjeBJY6hg

http://www.the370z.com/members/frost...5117t-poop.gif

Jsmoove 08-09-2010 09:58 PM

You should be good. The windshield sticker is too small compared to the plates, plus the 3m from the plate also define the letters very well too.


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