Assembly Bill No. AB 1824 - No Loud Cars Law

Bay Area Z · 12-30-2018, 02:45 PM

For us California folk,

Assembly Bill No. AB-1824 (Section 4) is looking to pass the following for 2019:

(4) .. Existing law requires every motor vehicle subject to registration to be equipped with an adequate muffler in constant operation and properly maintained to prevent any excessive or unusual noise and prohibits a muffler or exhaust system from being equipped with a cutout, bypass, or similar device. Existing law further prohibits the modification of an exhaust system of a motor vehicle in a manner that will amplify or increase the noise emitted by the motor of the vehicle so that the vehicle exceeds existing noise limits. This bill would include, among those conditions that are disqualifying, a violation of the above-described requirements related to mufflers and exhaust systems.

There is a petition against this law here: https://www.change.org/p/jay-obernol...-in-california

Save your exhaust!

CRiZO · 12-30-2018, 03:54 PM

That's all already illegal in California.

Looking at the actual full text, it looks like they can't just give you a fix-it ticket anymore.

It's not making legal exhausts illegal. Like literally nothing will change for you.

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(4) Existing law provides that whenever any person is arrested for certain offenses, including, among other things, an infraction involving vehicle equipment, the arresting officer is required to permit the arrested person to execute a notice, prepared by the officer in triplicate, containing a promise to correct the violation and to deliver proof of correction to the issuing agency, unless the arresting officer finds that a disqualifying condition exists.
Existing law requires every motor vehicle subject to registration to be equipped with an adequate muffler in constant operation and properly maintained to prevent any excessive or unusual noise and prohibits a muffler or exhaust system from being equipped with a cutout, bypass, or similar device. Existing law further prohibits the modification of an exhaust system of a motor vehicle in a manner that will amplify or increase the noise emitted by the motor of the vehicle so that the vehicle exceeds existing noise limits.
This bill would include, among those conditions that are disqualifying, a violation of the above-described requirements related to mufflers and exhaust systems.

redondoaveb · 12-30-2018, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bay Area Z

For us California folk,

Assembly Bill No. AB-1824 (Section 4) is looking to pass the following for 2019:

(4) .. Existing law requires every motor vehicle subject to registration to be equipped with an adequate muffler in constant operation and properly maintained to prevent any excessive or unusual noise and prohibits a muffler or exhaust system from being equipped with a cutout, bypass, or similar device. Existing law further prohibits the modification of an exhaust system of a motor vehicle in a manner that will amplify or increase the noise emitted by the motor of the vehicle so that the vehicle exceeds existing noise limits. This bill would include, among those conditions that are disqualifying, a violation of the above-described requirements related to mufflers and exhaust systems.

There is a petition against this law here: https://www.change.org/p/jay-obernol...-in-california

Save your exhaust!

Well, I'm screwed! 😁

xoxOnaisa · 12-30-2018, 11:58 PM

In Orange County, there are neighborhoods that have signs posted saying no loud vehicles and exhaust, and they will fine you. I believe this is near the Fashion Island in Newport Beach... but there are lot of neighborhoods in So.Cal that are like this with signs posted banning loud vehicles.

wideglideleon · 12-31-2018, 10:11 AM

F#@k California they have more laws then common sense. Who would want to live there over taxed, over billed and too many ridiculous laws, fires floods and riots, sheez , what a place.

CRiZO · 12-31-2018, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by wideglideleon

F#@k California they have more laws then common sense. Who would want to live there over taxed, over billed and too many ridiculous laws, fires floods and riots, sheez , what a place.

Here's Arizona:

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28-955. Mufflers; noise and air pollution prevention; emissions control devices; civil penalty; exception

A. A motor vehicle shall be equipped at all times with a muffler that is in good working order and that is in constant operation to prevent excessive or unusual noise.

B. A person shall not use a muffler cutout, bypass or similar device on a motor vehicle on a highway.

C. The engine and power mechanism of a motor vehicle shall be equipped and adjusted to prevent the escape of excessive fumes or smoke.

D. Beginning with motor vehicles and motor vehicle engines of the 1968 model year, motor vehicles and motor vehicle engines shall be equipped with emissions control devices that meet the standards established by the director of environmental quality.

E. A person who violates this section is subject to a civil penalty of at least one hundred dollars.

F. This section does not apply to an electrically powered motor vehicle.

xoxOnaisa · 12-31-2018, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CRiZO

Here's Arizona:

Daamnnnn smog exemption applies only pre-1967!!! That sucks for Arizona....and I used to bitch about Cali smog laws....

Hotrodz · 12-31-2018, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxOnaisa

Daamnnnn smog exemption applies only pre-1967!!! That sucks for Arizona....and I used to bitch about Cali smog laws....

LOL, you got to really being stupid to get written for that violation here in AZ. It is not enforced....yet!

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xoxOnaisa · 12-31-2018, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

LOL, you got to really being stupid to get written for that violation here in AZ. It is not enforced....yet!

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You don't get written up here for smog exemption. You either don't get your vehicle registered for failing smog or you pay $3-600 for a "special smog" (IF and only IF you have the special connections for a "special smog"...)

Hotrodz · 12-31-2018, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxOnaisa

You don't get written up here for smog exemption. You either don't get your vehicle registered for failing smog or you pay $3-600 for a "special smog" (IF and only IF you have the special connections for a "special smog"...)

Yep, and that is doing stupid if you live in Pima or Maricopa county. The rest of the State does not have smog requirements. I have lived in Kingman since 1993 and never had to get my vehicle tested. I don't believe they even check if you don't blow a code but I am no expert on that part of title 28. Also if I am not mistaken modern cars are only test every 5 years so it should be easy (still a pain) to change things out come testing time.

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xoxOnaisa · 12-31-2018, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

Yep, and that is doing stupid if you live in Pima or Maricopa county. The rest of the State does not have smog requirements. I have lived in Kingman since 1993 and never had to get my vehicle tested. I don't believe they even check if you don't blow a code but I am no expert on that part of title 28. Also if I am not mistaken modern cars are only test every 5 years so it should be easy (still a pain) to change things out come testing time.

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California has some counties that don't have smog laws either, but then again most properties in those counties also don't have public utilities and are essentially off the grid.

I'm not sure about the modern cars law. I remember a dealer course I took (2011/2012) stated new vehicles are exempt for the first three years and you pay a smog abatement fee instead. Sounds like they must have changed this because I was wondering why I didn't have to smog and its my 4th year since purchase on my Nismo.

Hotrodz · 12-31-2018, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxOnaisa

California has some counties that don't have smog laws either, but then again most properties in those counties also don't have public utilities and are essentially off the grid.

I'm not sure about the modern cars law. I remember a dealer course I took (2011/2012) stated new vehicles are exempt for the first three years and you pay a smog abatement fee instead. Sounds like they must have changed this because I was wondering why I didn't have to smog and its my 4th year since purchase on my Nismo.

It more than likely changed when they started allowing vehicles to be registered for five consecutive years. I registered my 2002 diesel truck truck for five years and I think it cost me $150. I can't remember how many years I have my Nismo registered for lol.

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xoxOnaisa · 12-31-2018, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

It more than likely changed when they started allowing vehicles to be registered for five consecutive years. I registered my 2002 diesel truck truck for five years and I think it cost me $150. I can't remember how many years I have my Nismo registered for lol.

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WHAT?! five consecutive years?... I don't think California has that option...

So wait are you in Arizona, or Southern California (I was snooping

in the so cal pages and saw you posting there or you just kinda participate everywhere on the forum?).

Hotrodz · 12-31-2018, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxOnaisa

WHAT?! five consecutive years?... I don't think California has that option...

So wait are you in Arizona, or Southern California (I was snooping

in the so cal pages and saw you posting there or you just kinda participate everywhere on the forum?).

I play every where on the forum. I live in AZ and used to live in SoCal. My brother and my mom live in Socal so I am familiar with Cali laws. Also spent 20 plus years in law enforcement in AZ and even though it was in fish and wildlife we had to well versed in all areas of law so being next to California, we worked with them closely. And know California doesn't do five years at time because they might want raise rates or change something lol!

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old guy · 12-31-2018, 10:07 PM

Isn't California going to out law the internal combustion engine in 2025 or something ?

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Bay Area Z Base Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: San Leandro Posts: 72 Drives: 09 370Z S,T,M6 Rep Power: 6	Assembly Bill No. AB 1824 - No Loud Cars Law For us California folk, Assembly Bill No. AB-1824 (Section 4) is looking to pass the following for 2019: (4) .. Existing law requires every motor vehicle subject to registration to be equipped with an adequate muffler in constant operation and properly maintained to prevent any excessive or unusual noise and prohibits a muffler or exhaust system from being equipped with a cutout, bypass, or similar device. Existing law further prohibits the modification of an exhaust system of a motor vehicle in a manner that will amplify or increase the noise emitted by the motor of the vehicle so that the vehicle exceeds existing noise limits. This bill would include, among those conditions that are disqualifying, a violation of the above-described requirements related to mufflers and exhaust systems. There is a petition against this law here: https://www.change.org/p/jay-obernol...-in-california Save your exhaust! redondoaveb and xoxOnaisa like this.

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xoxOnaisa Base Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: California Posts: 54 Drives: '13 Nismo 370z #0574 Rep Power: 6	In Orange County, there are neighborhoods that have signs posted saying no loud vehicles and exhaust, and they will fine you. I believe this is near the Fashion Island in Newport Beach... but there are lot of neighborhoods in So.Cal that are like this with signs posted banning loud vehicles.