350Z Driver involved in Fatal crash
 

From Newsday

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1316103862

I just saw this and realized the car was a Z. Looks like a 350. Kind of messed up how they automatically jump to DUI & speeding before the facts just because an off duty cop was involved. My condolences to the police officers family, but you would think he would wear a seat belt of all people.

Wow... as I posted in another thread, I was hit by a drunk driver a week ago... what are these people thinking (assuming they are driving under the influence)?

Ok, so that article is very hard to read... Was the driver of the 350 the one that was killed, or the one thats being accused of the DUI?? :ugh2:

This is all over at g35nyc since the Z driver was a member over there. Alot is still speculation

No the one that was killed was in a Maxima I believe...

The Z driver is the one that was charged.

The off-duty officer (Jessup) driving a the 09 Maxima died. They are now reporting that he (the off-duty officer) wasn't wearing a seat belt, possibly intoxicated after coming from a party and speeding. Earlier they reported that the guy(Lopez) in the Z was drunk, speeding and caused the whole accident. They just revealed that the guy in the Z was well below the legal limit after a breathalizer taken after the incident. They basically slapped a second-degree vehicular manslaughter & DUI on Lopez (the driver in the Z) with contradicting facts from the State Police.

I entirely sympathize with your point but I think the problem is that generally you don't have two people just collide to the point that one of them flips over and the other is fatally injured unless there is a high rate of speed or some sort of intoxication. Still you're right they should do a full investigation prior to making those types of allegations because people never seem to remember when someone is acquitted of a charge like that and it can definitely impact a person's life.

If I was Lopez, I would be countersuing like a mother-fu-- for defamation of character and trying to pass the blame off on me from the Dept.

And I'd also request to be present at the officers funeral as well, to pay my respects.

Defamation has to be intentional and that would be hard to prove and accident or not I'm not sure I'd feel comfortable going to that service but I see your point.

That's kind of what I'm getting at. This kid could have his life permanently stained because it's doesn't seem like innocent until proven guilty matters anymore. They just made it seem like the guy in the Z was drunk, speeding and killed a cop without telling the other side of the story. I just get a little skeptical when officers are involved and facts are hidden or falsified.

This is why they would have to settle out of court because they'd (the dept) would know full well they'd rather slam a kid with a fast/modded car, before they admit an officer was drinking/driving.

I would feel comfortable at the service because I (lopez) did nothing wrong, but he was an officer and should be remembered for his service.

This is my reason for above statements. ^^

this is his car before the crash:

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s...WLOWLOWLOW.jpg


ive seen his ride before, but this is what happens when you drink and drive.

Has anyone failed to notice that 1. Lopez the driver of the Z is only 20 years old and 2.Police documents said Lopez took a portable breath test several hours after the crash that showed his blood-alcohol content was .059, below the .08 legal limit.

Now I know that I am a little older now but when I was 20 the legal age was 21 and that at 21 if I would have taken a BAC test several hours later and still had a .059 that I would assume would be well over the .08 legal limit if taken immediately after, and unless this kid had been drinking since age 12 I am assuming he has not built up that much of a tolerance. This is all assuming that the article is correct in its facts! and I say that with a grain of Salt.

you don't even have to look that far into it, ny has no tolerance laws, if you're under 21 and your BAC is above .2, youre liable as if you're full blown drunk.

Many new agencies make things more dramatic on purpose, I've seen headlines that take what the article reads and make it something else completely. "Murder Cop Shot" ends up being shots were heard in the area shortly before police arrested a man wanted for attempted murder.

News agencies are not required to report the correct information just what information they believe is correct at the time and must issue a correction or reaction in the back page fine print if they are informed otherwise at a later date.

Thats true, good point!:tup:

different rims....:stirthepot:

Tragic all around... no doubt.

Also looks untinted unless all the glass is entirely shattered to the point that it is invisible (although the tint would make them stick together).

Interesting.

he was trying to sell the car for a few months now, probably sold the rims already. i actually said it on another forum, he shouldve kept the wheels on, those things are impossible to speed on.

^^^^
I have seen that car around, come to think of it.

I get that too, but he was charged with DUI even though the breath test taken showed he wasn't. That's kind of what I don't understand and makes me wonder if the rest is true. They have nothing to base the DUI charge on other than a State Trooping "believing" he was intoxicated.

Lopez said a car clipped his car. Not sure if this adds anything to clear things up, but it tells a different story:

"NY driver arraigned in crash that killed policeman

MINEOLA, N.Y. (AP) - A Long Island man has pleaded not guilty to drunken driving, assault and other charges in a crash that killed an off-duty New York City police officer.

Jonathan Lopez, of East Meadow, was arrested early Sunday following a wreck on the Southern State Parkway in Massapequa (mas-uh-PEEK'-wuh.)

Police say Lopez crashed into the rear of a car driven by 25-year-old Kevin Jessup, who later died.

Jessup worked in the 106th Precinct in Queens. He joined the NYPD in July 2008. A passenger in his car suffered non-life-threatening injuries.

Police say Lopez also hit another vehicle. That driver was treated and released.

Lopez, who is 20, was arraigned Monday in a Nassau County courtroom. Cash bail was set at $50,000.

His attorney, Fred Pollack, declined to comment."

SSP has cameras on every mile, I'm sure this was captured on camera.

Mostly. If your under 21 your done no matter what you blow. Also. 08 is considered intoxicated and. .04 is considered imparred in ny. Theres no such thing as a "Legal Limit" of being imparred in driving ability. Now adays anything for anyone doesnt matter. Youll get locked up reguardless of who you are even if youve had just 1 beer.

ok let me tell you guys a little something that WAS NOT REPORTED. the dirt bag in question (lopez) was drunk and REFUSED a breathalyzer test at the scence of the accident. when he finally toke the test of course he was going to test below the legal limit. also this biased news report failed to mention that lopez was in possession of marijuana and was possibly high at the time. also just becuase this guy is a police officer is a not reason to place blame on him at all for not wearing his seat belt because im pretty sure not everyone on this forum wears their belt at all times. that being said i hope this guy rots in jail...you dont know how bad i wish ny had the death sentence

i am so confused...

I don't really like to drive at weird hours of the night because there are usually more drunk people on the road.

Did i mention that i'm totally confused? but yea NY has 0 tolerance. If you are under 21 and caught with any BAC thats no good for you.

I don't think anyone is placing blame on the officer. It's tragic, but he would have likely survived if he was buckled in. I don't condone drinking and driving the slightest bit. I have personally gone through a family member that was nearly killed by a drunk driver and strongly believe there is zero excuse for it. I just think all the facts should be on the table and this guy provided a fair trial before passing judgement.

im not saying anyone here is placing blame on the officer but that news report tried.. i mean yea he wasnt wearing his seat belt but come on give the guy a break his dead now.

I find it hard to believe that if there was marijuana on Lopez it would not have been reported, I also find it hard to believe that it wasn't reported that he initially refused to blow.

The officers on scene just decided to drop any possession charges out of the goodness of their hearts, to someone who just killed a fellow officer?

He's involved in the death of a police officer but the media is covering up to protect him, yah right......

It's a tragedy that the officer died, and my condolences to his family, but 'some' responsibilty falls on him for not wearing his seat belt. Police know better than anyone else what happens when you don't. Likely his death would have been avoided.

As for the death sentence? Was the officer your brother or something? Not saying Lopez is an angel but death sentence for a DUI? :ugh2:

It was 5:35 in the morning. That's not all that weird is it?

R.I.P. fellow brother in blue.

harsher penalties for crimes is not a bad thing. Simple fact is that most criminals/people do the things they do is because the reward/punishment depending on the offense outways the risk. They should institute hard time when you are in prision not summer camp. As far as the cop not wearing his seatbelt I have know some fellow officers that do not wear one while on duty becasue it becomes a problem when trying to exit the vehicle quickly ie getting caught on their belt. This sometimes becomes a habit unfortantly. In this case it may have saved his life. My thoughts go out to the family.

i dont mean. weird... like suspicious. but look at this situation. you've got 2 people who had both drank that night and were coming home and crashed into eachother. if that isn't a perfect example of the higher probability of DUI's at those early hours then i dont know what does.

not at all my friend. death sentence for dui is ridiculous but when dui takes a life then yea the death sentence is appropriate

I was hit by a drunk driver at 4:30p last saturday... unfortunately idiots (vis a vi people who drive drunk) can strike at any time.

Not saying either of them were idiots or even drunk.

Again it is tragic and I think there is evidence to show that both parties were at least somewhat negligent but that doesn't change what happened.

what a shame. some people get a chance to learn a lesson, other's don't. whenever I see something like this, it reminds me of how lucky I am.

Sadness....
People jump to conclusions way too fast... Just because hes 20 they blame it on him. Ive seen this z in person and its sweet. Guess notanymore. Hope they figure out the truth something does not match up esp the police mans story. RIP though dont drink and drive kids!