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ColorSource 09-07-2020 01:14 PM

I believe at 00:15 they teased the manual transmission. Dont think they wouldve shown that if it was auto. They really want us excited that itll actually come in stick shift

KCZ 09-07-2020 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by chubbs (Post 3958152)
If it's 'chrome' I can see quite a few people getting the vinyl wrap out and changing it.

Do you like the 240-esque headlamp scoops? It's our first proper look at them. Similar to the 240z, but stretched.

Edit - and for all those MT freaks - at 16 seconds it looks a bit like he could be wrapping his hand around a manual gearshift :)

They also teased the tail light design coming from the 300ZX.

They've given us practically no info about this car and I already want one so bad that I can't focus on anything else.

Hotrodz 09-07-2020 02:01 PM

As I stated before, there will be a manual for the base and sport models and only an auto for the Nismo.

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NissanFreak81 09-07-2020 02:23 PM

Liking what the tailights look like so far.

jcasti07 09-07-2020 02:25 PM

What if... just what if.. that's the name of the Z35? Proto Z? Like they keep using that as opposed to saying prototype. I dont think at this late in the game they would barely be making a prototype. Everything looks very task oriented already.

UNKNOWN_370 09-07-2020 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jcasti07 (Post 3958196)
What if... just what if.. that's the name of the Z35? Proto Z? Like they keep using that as opposed to saying prototype. I dont think at this late in the game they would barely be making a prototype. Everything looks very task oriented already.

Only the body itself is the protype, possibly some chassis fittings. Im sure the the engine transmission and tech is 90% sorted out.

Carmaker1 09-07-2020 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Carmaker1 (Post 3784209)
While I could blame media outlets for putting out false news since about Jan/Feb of this year regarding a next generation R36 and Z35, I now have to put the onus on Nissan senior executives lying through their teeth and being creative with the truth for PR...

...As I said before, if you are expecting a brand new Z in a few years, it's not happening.

By the time the (newly approved) Z34 refresh (2020 target) launches, all of us (internally and externally) will know if a Z35 has reached full approval for production by senior management.

In the meantime, take what the media puts out with a grain of salt. Up until this summer, Albaisa knew very well the demise of the Z35, yet either to keep up morale and not scare away potential buyers, has created a false narrative to probably convince his bosses and shareholders not to give up on the Z.

The idea was keep it unchanged through 2021, yet now a refresh was approved for a few hundred million to keep it alive longer.


As I mentioned exactly over 2 years ago, it wasn't going to be an all new vehicle. That was canceled in January 2018, in which during the summer of 2018, a final design was set with no actual business plan behind it.

Albaisa and co. saved this car 2 years ago. I'm no longer a shareholder, so I don't know as much as I used to. I haven't gotten enough intel on whether or not how reliable the claim on change in launch date is.

Last time I checked, September 2021 was Job 1 for November and December deliveries. That came from internal resources and not news media. But it has definitely been a few months I heard this and with COVID...

I have said for a few months that Titan has no manufacturing timeline after 2022 (as in dead) and next Frontier enters production on January 4, 2021, launching the last week of February or March 20:21.

Carmaker1 09-07-2020 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot (Post 3957639)
Same here, we also have to keep in mind that this is a prototype they are unveiling and we all know how much nissan can change the design from prototype to final production. Just think back to what the gtr prototype looked like when they unveiled it way back when to when the final production model was revealed.

That's not entirely accurate, but it's possible. From what I remember the final design was established in the summer of 2018 at the projected cost of 240 million dollars vs $1 billion for an all-new rear wheel drive basis.

My own knowledge from a few months ago was an official job 1 of September 2021. Basically that's roughly 36-37 months since styling was approved.

UNKNOWN_370 09-07-2020 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Carmaker1 (Post 3958220)
As I mentioned exactly over 2 years ago, it wasn't going to be an all new vehicle. That was canceled in January 2018, in which during the summer of 2018, a final design was set with no actual business plan behind it.

Albaisa and co. saved this car 2 years ago. I'm no longer a shareholder, so I don't know as much as I used to. I haven't gotten enough intel on whether or not how reliable the claim on change in launch date is.

Last time I checked, September 2021 was Job 1 for November and December deliveries. That came from internal resources and not news media. But it has definitely been a few months I heard this and with COVID...

I have said for a few months that Titan has no manufacturing timeline after 2022 (as in dead) and next Frontier enters production on January 4, 2021, launching the last week of February or March 20:21.

Thats on par with the months the z34 was released.

Spooler 09-08-2020 11:17 AM

Hopefully it is not a slug since everyone has been waiting for so long.

chubbs 09-09-2020 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Carmaker1 (Post 3958221)
That's not entirely accurate, but it's possible. From what I remember the final design was established in the summer of 2018 at the projected cost of 240 million dollars vs $1 billion for an all-new rear wheel drive basis.

My own knowledge from a few months ago was an official job 1 of September 2021. Basically that's roughly 36-37 months since styling was approved.

What exactly do you mean by 'the final design was established in Summer 2018'? What exactly was established then?

Hotrodz 09-09-2020 12:34 PM

What I have read is they started the proto thing with the GTR redesign, GTR Proto. I really wasn't a prototype just a close design of what the actual production car was going to look like. Hence the production car was almost exactly the same as the proto.

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goeagles11 09-09-2020 03:14 PM

Those teaser trailers are great. Love the 300ZX taillights and the headlights look well done too. Really curious to see the interior.

Let's hope they nailed the whole package.

280driver 09-10-2020 05:54 AM

Teaser #3
https://youtu.be/h_LpUFf6j6o

A manual gearbox and a drivable vehicle!

geeteezee 09-10-2020 07:02 AM

I spy synchrorev. Also, the handbrake looks identical to current models.

https://i.imgur.com/kd9IYst.png

viiv 09-10-2020 07:29 AM

Lol, yes looking at the center console, it's the basically the same center console just molded into a more 'modern' shape. Same location for the Syncrorev and hazard button as the current car. Not only are the underpinnings the same on this car (I can guarantee you the new center console will bolt right into a 370Z with the mounting screw holes lining up perfectly), looks like they also wanted to do the least amount of changes to the wiring harness. The knee bolsters also follow the same dimensions as the existing car just a different shape.

I feel like it would be easily possible to do a full on interior swap on the current 370Z with the new interior panels and trim pieces, only issue of course would be the electronics.

I can already tell you what the easiest part to swap into a 370Z will be; for that 'updated factory interior' look. That new shift knob. Same height as the stock 370Z one, shift boot looks to be the same height too. I would say that they reused the exact same shift boot part number, but I feel like the stitching is more white than the current Z.

FPenvy 09-10-2020 07:46 AM

everyone is talking about the dumb manual option......no one mentioned it had GTR brakes and how sexy the wheels were.


you people disappoint me more than my kids :shakes head:

JARblue 09-10-2020 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3958641)
everyone is dumb

:iagree:

babyzilla 09-10-2020 08:37 AM

Oh man......I'm drooling. I have something to look forward to!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_LpUFf6j6o

BC416 09-10-2020 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3958641)
everyone is talking about the dumb manual option......no one mentioned it had GTR brakes and how sexy the wheels were.


you people disappoint me more than my kids :shakes head:

I mean - for a lot of people, myself included - not having three pedals is a deal breaker. I can always add/upgrade the brakes/wheels.

I'm trying to buy a home and my Z is paid off - so no brand new vehicles in the cards - but in 4-5 years, this is definitely on my radar.

theART 09-10-2020 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3958641)
everyone is talking about the dumb manual option......no one mentioned it had GTR brakes and how sexy the wheels were.


you people disappoint me more than my kids :shakes head:

https://pics.me.me/son-iam-dissapoin...a-50401297.png

You mean this.....the 6-piston caliper, vented rotors setup! def a proto shot, there is no factory sidewall stretch and Dunlop "Nissan Z" rated tires!

https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/7x...oto-teaser.jpg

FPenvy 09-10-2020 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by theART (Post 3958690)
You mean this.....

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precisely lol

GTR brembo brakes with a Z logo :yum:

also the wheels i feel are the Nismo. they are very similar to current nismo wheels with some tweaks.

i wonder if the base/sport will get 4 pots and the nismo gets the bump to GTR 6 pot brakes.

theART 09-10-2020 10:51 AM

Another good shot of a front bumper chin and skirt fold!

https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/10...oto-teaser.jpg

FPenvy 09-10-2020 10:59 AM

not gonna lie, this newest teaser showing lit pieces of the body is making me excited.

i've been concerned how bad they are gonna mess up the body styling but in 6 days we shall know for sure.

i really hope the chrome roof strip thing i saw goes away on the production model lol

NissanFreak81 09-10-2020 11:26 AM

GTR brakes are very nice! I would expect those to be reserved for the nismo version. Wheels look nice as well. Hoping they step up the interior quality like they have been on their newest vehicles.

Arvada 09-10-2020 12:21 PM

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I think we are getting a black floating roof. Can see it by the back glass of today’s teaser and the earlier teaser.

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1599758186

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1599758186

Andaesthetics 09-10-2020 12:21 PM

Can't wait. It looks like the body shape/style will be similar to the 370Z which isn't a bad thing at all. I think the 370Z still has very nice exterior body styling even by today's standards for a sports car.

Z_ealot 09-10-2020 12:23 PM

Looks like they pushed the wheels even further out to the corners of the body, maybe get improved handling on this Z?

Andaesthetics 09-10-2020 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot (Post 3958703)
Looks like they pushed the wheels even further out to the corners of the body, maybe get improved handling on this Z?

I imagine they'll have improved just about everything. Even if it's by marginal amounts every aspect of the car can be improved in some way to compete against it's competitors.

The only thing slightly concerning to me from seeing this newest teaser, is that the middle console looks almost exactly the same as current 370Z. I hope they really updated the interior with more alcantara, leather, and less cheap plastic. It would be amazing if they had some carbon fiber option bits from the factory, but I'll keep dreaming on that one.

cv129 09-10-2020 12:35 PM

GTR brakes got me real excited

Rusty 09-10-2020 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 3958705)
GTR brakes got me real excited

You dry humping? :icon14:

cv129 09-10-2020 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3958708)
You dry humping? :icon14:

I'm out of fresh undies, so not so dry

:excited:

theART 09-10-2020 02:48 PM

Noticing some other new details:

- Curving tails
- Chrome molding (seems to remain through all videos)
- Navi fin antenna

https://i.ibb.co/W0zc3q8/370z.jpg

chubbs 09-10-2020 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by theART (Post 3958721)
Noticing some other new details:

- Curving tails
- Chrome molding (seems to remain through all videos)
- Navi fin antenna

The 3rd thing you put a red box around is a wind deflector that goes across the back of the roof, not an antenna.

chubbs 09-10-2020 03:25 PM

I'm quite interested to see what the side of the car will look like. Here's a screen grab from today's teaser:

https://i.imgur.com/xPFM3XH.png

UNKNOWN_370 09-10-2020 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by geeteezee (Post 3958633)
I spy synchrorev. Also, the handbrake looks identical to current models.

https://i.imgur.com/kd9IYst.png

Definitely proof this is an aggressive refresh moreso than a redesign. We shoulda gotten a decent shift knob in 2013. That said... an aggressive refresh is not necessarily a bad thing? Maybe they pushed the wheelbase forward or backward? Maybe extensive use of high tensile steel and newer tech chassis fittings can take 100llbs off the chassis?
New tech can make the infotainment area much lighter.?
Resttructuring the trunk can give us more storage space? Hoping for at least 11.5cu ft trunk.
Advanced suspension tuning can add up to .3 seconds of acceleration and improve lateral grip.
As stated before. Im praying they have an updated transmission for both the Z and Q60 upon release?

Overall i said in the past and ill say it again. The Z can get away with gradual refreshes over radical changes. But they need to stick to a 6 yr cycle. These cars may never sell over 10k units a yr and thats ok. We just need a respectable car.
Take lessons from the porsche 911 & corvette. The C4 C5 & C6 were essentially the same car with simple yet essential updates. Just dont make the interior quality mistakes chevy did.

I dont know if the stock Z will beat a supra? But thats ok. Its 10k cheaper and still going to be much faster than the z34. And lastly. Nissan built it!!! Not BMW. Or a subaru hybrid.

I trash Nissan when they eff up but i gotta give them respect when its deserved. N the Z is Nissan all the way!!

PS... thank God for the handbrake.:driving:
:owned:

UNKNOWN_370 09-10-2020 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by chubbs (Post 3958727)
I'm quite interested to see what the side of the car will look like. Here's a screen grab from today's teaser:

https://i.imgur.com/xPFM3XH.png

Glad to see curves. All the renders were blah

viiv 09-10-2020 06:08 PM

How many people here are gonna order that shift knob for their 370Z?

Red-Hat 09-10-2020 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Andaesthetics (Post 3958704)
The only thing slightly concerning to me from seeing this newest teaser, is that the middle console looks almost exactly the same as current 370Z.

I noticed that too. I have mixed feelings - there are elements of the existing interior I don't mind they keep, but a few things badly need updating...

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I hope they really updated the interior with more alcantara, leather, and less cheap plastic. It would be amazing if they had some carbon fiber option bits from the factory, but I'll keep dreaming on that one.
TBH, I hope they retain the same overall layout but with some basic changes that would make a Z perfect (for my tastes):
  • Replace the old infotainment unit with a with a state of the art TFT HD display (obviously give it AA/CP).
  • Get rid of the crappy LCD calculator display in the left gauge of the instrument cluster and replace it with a configurable TFT display that includes a digital speed readout.
  • Give the steering wheel reach adjustment in addition to rake.
  • Replace any 'satin silver' plastic trim pieces with *real* aluminium or high quality faux carbon fibre (real CF is probably too much to hope for).

Things I hope they keep but I fear they will replace:
  • Keep the real, analogue instrument cluster (with real tacho and speedo) that moves up and down with the wheel. Not a fan of fully digital instrument clusters, they lack soul.
  • Keep the three centre round pod gauges on the dashboard (but maybe make them configurable TFTs). Because they are now iconic and still cool IMO.
  • Keep the infotainment screen down below the centre pod gauges. The 'tablet stuck on the dashboard' infotainment fadis junk and will age a car's interior badly.
  • Keep the suede/alcantara arm rest and door pads on the door cards, but yes, extend it to cover more surfaces that are currently just plastic.

Do all that and I'll be a happy camper. Not too much needs changing, just a few details to bring it up to date.

Z_ealot 09-10-2020 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Red-Hat (Post 3958743)
I noticed that too. I have mixed feelings - there are elements of the existing interior I don't mind they keep, but a few things badly need updating...



TBH, I hope they retain the same overall layout but with some basic changes that would make a Z perfect (for my tastes):
  • Replace the old infotainment unit with a with a state of the art TFT HD display (obviously give it AA/CP).
  • Get rid of the crappy LCD calculator display in the left gauge of the instrument cluster and replace it with a configurable TFT display that includes a digital speed readout.
  • Give the steering wheel reach adjustment in addition to rake.
  • Replace any 'satin silver' plastic trim pieces with *real* aluminium or high quality faux carbon fibre (real CF is probably too much to hope for).

Things I hope they keep but I fear they will replace:
  • Keep the real, analogue instrument cluster (with real tacho and speedo) that moves up and down with the wheel. Not a fan of fully digital instrument clusters, they lack soul.
  • Keep the three centre round pod gauges on the dashboard (but maybe make them configurable TFTs). Because they are now iconic and still cool IMO.
  • Keep the infotainment screen down below the centre pod gauges. The 'tablet stuck on the dashboard' infotainment fadis junk and will age a car's interior badly.
  • Keep the suede/alcantara arm rest and door pads on the door cards, but yes, extend it to cover more surfaces that are currently just plastic.

Do all that and I'll be a happy camper. Not too much needs changing, just a few details to bring it up to date.

You forgot to add: get rid of the nightmare that is the digital fuel gauge cluster :D


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