Clutch stuck X1 & Loose of feel in cold weather
 

I live in Texas. When its below 40°F I have more play in the clutch and what I can describe as its too easy to disengage. Round Rock Nissan said its a rare problem and scheduled me to do a clutch flush Saturday with GTR fluid for a little of $200. They said a fluid change is not covered under warranty.

2012 370Z M6 36,001Mi (Extended Warranty)

Your wisdom...:ugh2:

But when it warms up it's fine, right? :ugh2:

Sounds like they are taking advantage of you. It was 4 degrees this morning. Naturally the pedal will feel funky because it is cold... returns to normal feel once it gets closer to operating temperature.

:iagree:

Grab a bottle of good brake fluid and let another shop bleed it for you if you're still on the stock fill. Otherwise, go on about your day until the csc fails completely.

It did stick on the floor once
 

Correct once its warm I got no issues. I am getting worried because it stuck once. If it needs flushed I can get it done with the next oil change in about a 1000 miles. I don't want to get stranded.

Flushing it is no guarantee you won't end up stranded. Eventually your stock CSC will fail. Changing the fluid is a band-aid.

Band Aid
 

I figured as much. I will be happy to see my aftermarket warranty from Toyota pay for what what ever damage is done from ignoring the real problem, i.e transmission, fly wheel, and so on. It covers towing too! This GTR clutch fluid they want to put in must be something special. :rolleyes:

It's just DOT 4 brake fluid. And nothing else is usually damaged when the csc fails. It would be smart to go ahead and buy the aftermarket csc so you have it on hand when the OEM one fails.

Cold weather makes the clutch and the brakes hard to use. Hydraulic fluid thickening up. I almost got intimate with the car in front of me this morning because my brakes didn't want to go down.
My clutch also engages extremely quickly in this cold weather. Of course it was -4 here this morning.

Thanks for the comparisons
 

I thought 17°F was cold here in Texas :tiphat:
I am going to just get it changed at the dealership with the magic oil and hope that works for a while unless my clutch sticks to the floor again.

Take it somewhere else. That price is outrageous.

If it were me, I don't believe I'd even mess with that. Mine nearly stuck to the floor yesterday and today both. Once it warmed up, it was fine.
It definitely doesn't have anything to do with the CSC in my case. It's just because of the cold.

TSB about fluid change with GTR fluid

Rare my ***! I just love how all Stealerships say "oh we've never seen that"!
There is most definitely a TSB to change to "GTR" Fluid made from Unicorn horns before they will warranty the CSC - if they decide to warranty. It's a coin toss whether the will or not. Some guys here get the CSC replaced no cost, others have to spend a lot of time (no one ever got more time, but every day people die with money), some times it's better to bite the bullet and pay to have the ZSpeed CSC installed by another shop instead of the stealership....

Warranty
 

I paid $1500 for an extended warranty from Toyota a year ago for 7Yr / 100,000Mi. Now that I am at 36,125Mi I am in the warranty under a 3rd party backed by Toyota. I am going to be making some preempted phone calls since it includes toeing and possible rent car. I read this can also damage your tranny.

Highly unlikely.

Took the car to the Dealership
 

They were already familiar with this issue. They were going to change it to DOT 4 Fluid but they didn't have any in stock. They said the issue was the O-Ring and Master Cylinder causing the problem. They skipped over the replacing fluid step and contacted my warranty.

My aftermarket Toyota Warranty approved of the fix and the parts will be ready to replace in a week.

Total cost so far: $0


How much would this have cost me?

Also in Texas, having same problem
 

Today it happened in 40 degree weather. 2013 model with less than 12k miles on it. This morning I almost couldn't get the car in reverse. This is the car's second winter, didn't have this problem in first winter.

As described by others, no issues after car warms up.

I'm also in Austin. What dealership did you use?

I will only recommend the Round Rock dealership here in town. They replaced my headliner under warranty, and they actually did an acceptable job.

Town North is completely incompetent, although I sometimes buy parts from them because they are convenient. They did work on my Z without my permission when I stopped by for some diagnostics.

My purchase experience with South Point wasn't too bad, but the service I experienced was sorely lacking. The first oil change was free, but I brought my own oil, magnetic drain plug, and K&N reusable intake air filters for them to install. All of these products were untouched and still in the car when I got it back. To make matters worse, they tried to deny it when I asked about it. Worst service manager ever. I have never been back.

I don't use dealerships for anything other than warranty work now. Anything I'm not comfortable working on myself, I either get help from a friend or pay a quality shop (like Colvin Automotive) to do it right.

Town North.

I either go to Town North or RR Nissan. I going to Town North more because they are back to 1st come 1st serve. Since I got nearly a full warranty, I am only going to dealerships. My 370Z is bone stock, I just change the fluids when told too. Overall I am satisfied with both: B+

Well, I'm glad Town North hasn't tried to screw you, yet.

I went to Town North over a year ago to check on a light that came on the instrument panel. I now know that the cause was low brake fluid level coupled with hard acceleration. However, they did a brake fluid flush without even consulting me and then had the gall to argue with me about who should pay for it. The service manager's response when I said I should not be responsible for the work: "Did it solve the problem?" I couldn't help but laugh and then retort, "It doesn't matter. I'm not paying for work I didn't authorize."

the GTR brake fluid is $45 a quart at nissan encase anyone wanted to know.

Troyz sent you a PM. :tup:

Fixed.....but
 

If the part wore out in 40K wouldn't it wear out again?

What part did they replace? The master cylinder should last longer than 40K, but $hit happens.

No pix
 

It looked like the scs part everyone was describing. The Mechanic was showing me the old part where air can get in.

CSC? The concentric slave cylinder? If so, that part is a known weak point in the clutch system. There are certainly ones that have lasted more than 40K miles, but I know that some failed in less than 20K miles.

Good for you if you got it taken care of under warranty. My plan is to replace the stock CSC with the heavy duty Z1 CSC the first time I need to have any transmission work done.