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MoChu 02-22-2010 11:27 AM

warranty void if I track the car?
 
Will warranty be void if I bring it to the track?

Vegasboricua 02-22-2010 12:42 PM

I don't believe so. Then I could be wrong.

m4a1mustang 02-22-2010 12:45 PM

Any time you mod your car or take it to a track you are risking your warranty. If you have a problem with your car and they know or suspect you participate in track days, they could easily refuse your warranty claim and there's nothing you can do about it.

If anyone comes in here and says the MM Act will protect them, I will overnight a facepalm from frost.

vipor 02-22-2010 02:45 PM

I have and will be tracking my car and plan on keeping my warranty. You have to cover yourself a little if you have an incident, don't go to the dealer and say you were at the track or anything.

Togo 02-22-2010 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 412571)
Any time you mod your car or take it to a track you are risking your warranty. If you have a problem with your car and they know or suspect you participate in track days, they could easily refuse your warranty claim and there's nothing you can do about it.

If anyone comes in here and says the MM Act will protect them, I will overnight a facepalm from frost.

Yeah but the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act says you're covered!:stirthepot:

































:bowrofl:

vipor 02-22-2010 03:35 PM

:drama:

m4a1mustang 02-22-2010 03:36 PM

Now the only question is... FedEx or UPS?

Togo 02-22-2010 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 412806)
Now the only question is... FedEx or UPS?

:roflpuke2::bowrofl::roflpuke2::bowrofl:

MoChu 02-22-2010 03:40 PM

How will the dealer know if you track the car or not? Do you have to provide vin number at the track?

gumpy 03-03-2010 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoChu (Post 412815)
How will the dealer know if you track the car or not? Do you have to provide vin number at the track?

In Australia i've heard of some makers sending people to tracks to take pics of your car's license plate. My dealership manager specifically told me to take my plates off before getting on the track.

Togo 03-04-2010 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoChu (Post 412815)
How will the dealer know if you track the car or not? Do you have to provide vin number at the track?

There really isn't any way for them to know unless you tell them or they see you.

Vegitto-kun 03-05-2010 04:53 AM

my dealership wont care.

hell they bought a piece of land close to their place so they can build a racing track.

I quote

"well yeah isn't it normal for us to do that? how else would you be able to decently test the GT-R and 370?"

Cjanik 03-05-2010 12:46 PM

this was a very hot issue with the STI's when they came out in the 2000's. taking pictures at the tracks and when they came in with issues they would void warranties. IIRC, when filling out the form to participate, it asked for a vin number which they also used.

I think that is long gone though.

pgrmstr 03-05-2010 02:04 PM

I had heard of similar spy tactics by insurance companies a few years back, supposedly coming to autox events and recording plate#'s and such and canx policies....so much so that a lot of clubs stopped publishing the car type in online results, and you'd see blue painters tape cover license plates and vins...as well as rumors of Mitsu doing it for the EVOs...

heck, years ago I had a Mini Cooper S that I autox'd, had koni yellow sport shocks, and the clutch went at 27,000 miles.....NO WAY attributed to autox or a rookie with a clutch, haven been driving nothing buy standard trans for 20+ years. Anyway, the dealer called me and said they would not cover it because the car was obviously raced and beaten on....based solely on the fact I had Koni sport shocks installed.

I did have an ACE up my sleeve however. That particular Mini dealer was involved in motorsports, historically from the BMW side of the shop, but none the less, I knew the director of the motorsports division, was a fellow autoxer as well as one of the head mechanics. About a couple months prior, they held their own autox for their customers, brought out a few of the shop cars off the showroom for fun runs, and asked me to bring my car and play instructor for the day, offer codrives, even letting them take my car out with customers in it while I was instructing customers in their new Coopers, etc. So I called the service manager and asked if they typically beat on their customers cars? He was like, NO....and to which I replied asking why then why was I asked by the dealership to instruct their customers...."beating/racing" their cars at an event sponsored by them....and in turn why their employees beat/raced MY car while entertaining their customers! Back peddling began with an I'll get back to you....followed by a call from the owner about 30mins later saying he had the service manager look at my clutch and it wasn't as burnt and abused as their mechanic lead them to believe and that he would be replacing it under warranty....

At the end of the day, these things are best kept quiet as you don't want to have to have that battle....don't rely on some "act" or "law" to protect you. They say NO and it's you that has to deal with trying to prove and fight it....

MoChu 03-05-2010 04:02 PM

^^^ Thanks guys

StealthZ 03-05-2010 04:34 PM

admit nothing... deny everything ;)

murphman 04-08-2010 08:50 PM

i was told there is a box in the car that can tell them what speeds you have broke in the car. whether you are racing or not if they feel that you were racing then your warranty is voided. But just going by that i would say they are being an *** if they void your warranty.

vipor 04-08-2010 08:56 PM

You were lied to. That does exist on the GTR, however. Talked to a dealer about how a GTR he sold came in for an early checkup (like 500 miles or some smalllll number) and it had already seen 158. Warranty is still in tact.

ZKindaGuy 04-08-2010 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Togo (Post 412799)
Yeah but the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act says you're covered!:stirthepot:

The dealer is NOT considered to be a race sponsor by any stretch of your imagination. The act isn't going to cover racing breakdowns. :rolleyes:

Lemers 04-08-2010 10:17 PM

Step 1. Track your car
Step 2. Exerience problems
Step 3. Dealer machanic looks at car
Step 4. Sees usual wear and tear for miles
Step 5. Dealer clams abuse and voids warranty
Step 6. You argue with dealer
Step 7. You hire lawyer...Dealer hires better group of lawyers
Step 8. Dealer ties case up in court for so long you can't aford to fight it anymore

Bottom line: unless this becomes a problem across all Nissan Dealerships and a class action suit is started you are at the dealers mercy.

vipor 04-09-2010 10:07 AM

pessimist

rarwz 04-09-2010 10:07 AM

I had a previous car that had some work done to it (cai, cat-back exhaust, exhaust headers). Pin in the diff came out, blew a hole through the trans. I put everything back to stock and brought it in to the dealer. They fixed it but told my parents (this was a few years back and it was under their name) that the car had been 'hot rodded' and they fixed the trans but dont come back. Further talks: they could tell by the exhaust header bolts not being rusted on and coming off so easily. Parents denied it had been hot rodded, but the dealership claim stood.

Later I put a 50 shot on the car. Brought it in to have the acc belt replaced, they noted on the ticket that there was nitrous. That information quickly spread and I found myself banned from 5 local dealerships.

Lessons learned.

ZKindaGuy 04-09-2010 04:59 PM

I'm really trying to understand why some of you folks really think the manufacturer should be responsible for the abuse you inflict to your car??? Where the f* are you getting your ingrained non-accountability mechanisms from that seem to plague you people????

Azathoth 04-10-2010 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy (Post 488953)
I'm really trying to understand why some of you folks really think the manufacturer should be responsible for the abuse you inflict to your car??? Where the f* are you getting your ingrained non-accountability mechanisms from that seem to plague you people????

IF the .gov, religion, military, clergy, parents, teachers, friends, lovers, foxnews/media and stephen colbert can all lie to us and get away with it, then why can't we lie to the 'man' and get away with it?!

Subvert the proletariat. Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall! Fear the monkey with money. The streets will flow with the blood of the non-believers!

:happydance:

ZKindaGuy 04-10-2010 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azathoth (Post 489741)
IF the .gov, religion, military, clergy, parents, teachers, friends, lovers, foxnews/media and stephen colbert can all lie to us and get away with it, then why can't we lie to the 'man' and get away with it?!

Subvert the proletariat. Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall! Fear the monkey with money. The streets will flow with the blood of the non-believers!

:happydance:

:icon18:

akaisuzu 04-20-2010 01:00 PM

Kind of beats the purpose of advertising "Nothing is as fast as a Z" when you can't even go fast with the car.

worldfamousz 10-19-2010 09:57 AM

just do not tell them you went to the track.
But don't think the dealership is stupid either, if you go in with really worn rubber, you can tell easily lol. But other than that, just say you were driving spiritedly in the hills or something...


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