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ssmoked 08-07-2015 01:25 PM

Did my 60k maintnance for $615
 
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Well just got my car back for a major tune up at 60k miles. Paid 615 otd (45 shop fee 50 tax) with everything listed on the sheet and added/upgraded to mobile 1 synthetic and added steering fluid change. I think the price wasn't too bad considering they changed the automatic transmission fluid with their Nissan "exclusive" tool. Plus I got a Altima rental for the day/night.

rooftop 08-07-2015 01:32 PM

Nice!

Jimbo370 08-07-2015 03:14 PM

I am past 60k what was all done if you don't mind me asking other than fluids.
THANKS

ssmoked 08-07-2015 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbo370 (Post 3279304)
I am past 60k what was all done if you don't mind me asking other than fluids.
THANKS

Everything on the attachment was done. I upgraded the service to synthetic and added power steering flush

Jimbo370 08-07-2015 04:08 PM

Rotate tires? Right to left?

ssmoked 08-07-2015 04:27 PM

No tire rotation. I take my car to Discount tire for balance and side to side flip. I had them credit my tire rotation charge toward my power steering fluid change.

The print out is a generic service sheet special for all nissans at Universal Nissan

Jsolo 08-07-2015 11:13 PM

What type of fuel system service was done? Or rather what/how did they service it?

critical 08-08-2015 02:10 AM

hmm they aren't supposed to change the tranny fluid but it can be done i guess

ssmoked 08-08-2015 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by critical (Post 3279657)
hmm they aren't supposed to change the tranny fluid but it can be done i guess

That's what I thought too from reading online and owners manual. But I had the parts dept and master service tech telling me they can change it (sound very confident). The reason they list it as non serviceable in the manual is because they don't want a random mechanic without the proper tools/equipment to refill the auto transmission oil. The service tech showed me the "enclosed" unit and how it requires a special gauge to measure the oil temp/amount while refilling. They had to keep it over night for the tranny to cool down also.

I consulted a closer Nissan dealer near my residence and they had no clue how to change it. So unless your tech sound confident and can show/explain what they are going to do/did, I would skip it lol. I drove 40 miles out while there are 3 dealers within 10 miles

Zoren 370 08-08-2015 08:06 AM

Nissan Exclusive tool???

I love it when dealers do this marketing thing so they can charge you more.

ssmoked 08-08-2015 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 3279819)
Nissan Exclusive tool???

I love it when dealers do this marketing thing so they can charge you more.

Actually they saved me money since I opted out on changing the 7AT oil that's included in the package. They insisted they can change/refill it with proper tools/gauges.

I mean, technically an independent shop can acquire the 'tools' too and only use it once or twice per year. But for peace of mind, I would only take it to a Nissan dealer to do this particular fluid change.

Zoren 370 08-08-2015 12:18 PM

Which part of central FL you from?

Did you actually saw them do the work and changed the fluids?

JARblue 08-08-2015 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ssmoked (Post 3279127)
I think the price wasn't too bad considering they changed the automatic transmission fluid with their Nissan "exclusive" tool.

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Originally Posted by ssmoked (Post 3279831)
I mean, technically an independent shop can acquire the 'tools' too and only use it once or twice per year.

LOL :rolleyes:

Do you even know what the "tools" are? Because there are no special tools required to change out the 7AT transmission fluid. That mechanic/dealer is just feeding you some Angus Prime Bull$hit. The AT fluid is susceptible to volume changes based on temperature, so you have to get the fluid to the proper temp when you check the fill level. The tools that can read the temp just plug into the OBD2 port. They can be pretty expensive, but they do far more than just help you change the transmission fluid. Pretty much any mechanic shop is going to already have something that does this.

And $615 is outrageous for that list IMO. That dealer is pretty good though. It's their job to make you feel good about overpaying for service :ugh2:

ssmoked 08-08-2015 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3279948)
LOL :rolleyes:

Do you even know what the "tools" are? Because there are no special tools required to change out the 7AT transmission fluid. That mechanic/dealer is just feeding you some Angus Prime Bull$hit. The AT fluid is susceptible to volume changes based on temperature, so you have to get the fluid to the proper temp when you check the fill level. The tools that can read the temp just plug into the OBD2 port. They can be pretty expensive, but they do far more than just help you change the transmission fluid. Pretty much any mechanic shop is going to already have something that does this.

And $615 is outrageous for that list IMO. That dealer is pretty good though. It's their job to make you feel good about overpaying for service :ugh2:

Are you expecting a dealer to give out free service? I know I don't with my profession, and bet neither do you. I am sure they made some money to keep payroll and the light on but not ridiculously.
Let's see OEM parts cost if bought by self: 2 air filter, cabin filter, 5-6 quarts Mobil 1 synthetic, oil filter, coolant, brake fluid, steering fluid, transmission fluid, differential fluid, radiator cap, t/body cleaner... 300-400$ (without 6 bottles of half used fluids cluttering my garage for 3 years). Proper disposal of those toxic fluids (hopefully you don't just throw it in regular trash)...$50. The tech should obviously work for free on a 370z and dealer should let you use their garage and "tools that plug into the OBD2 port" according to your estimate.... Taxes $40 (please educate me how to avoid that for the future). Rental car should be free too right?
So mr. JARblue how much did I get ripped off for a major service and peace of mind?

zoren 370- I went to universal Nissan. I had them check and show me before and after fluid colors of the brake, coolant, power steering fluids. Also there were fresh oil residue at the differential and transmission drain area when I checked/before I paid.
I highly doubt they shorted me on anything, especially how anal I was

critical 08-08-2015 02:54 PM

they need the nissan consult to read the temps and insure it's not over or under filled. it's not really a diy oil change

JARblue 08-08-2015 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ssmoked (Post 3279974)
Are you expecting a dealer to give out free service?

When did I say free? Of course you're going to pay an hourly labor rate. One key question is how ridiculous is that rate.

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Originally Posted by ssmoked (Post 3279974)
I know I don't with my profession, and bet neither do you. I am sure they made some money to keep payroll and the light on but not ridiculously.

Actually, I think you nailed it. Some dealer's profit margin on some service is just that ... ridiculous. I am not speaking to Universal Nissan specifically, as I do not have any direct experience with them. To be honest, looking at the list more thoroughly, that actually doesn't sound like a horrible dealer price for quite a bit of work. But don't think they aren't lining their pockets with your hard earned money.

I question some of that stuff at 30K miles. Like coolant or power steering. If you truly need a coolant flush at 30K miles, there is likely something else at play other than just dirty fluid. The coolant is supposed to last 120K miles according to Nissan.

I also question whether they actually did the work - I like to watch the tech put in the new fluid and confirm it is correct. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...

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Originally Posted by ssmoked (Post 3279974)
(without 6 bottles of half used fluids cluttering my garage for 3 years). Proper disposal of those toxic fluids (hopefully you don't just throw it in regular trash)...$50.

Why keep extra fluid around if you're not going to use it? I just dump it with the old fluid. And you are really paying someone to dispose of the old fluids?!?! I'm pretty sure it's a law here that auto shops are required to take those fluids to dispose of them properly. I just take them to the Lamb's Automotive in my neighborhood. One time the guy was happy to see the unused portions of Redline trans and diff fluids and took those for his own use :tup:

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Originally Posted by ssmoked (Post 3279974)
The tech should obviously work for free on a 370z and dealer should let you use their garage

Once again, I never said free. I never said anything about using the dealer's garage. Their hourly labor rates include all of that :shakes head:

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Originally Posted by ssmoked (Post 3279974)
"tools that plug into the OBD2 port" according to your estimate....

What did I estimate? :confused:

Tools that plug into the OBD2 port range from $10 to $10,000+ and features range from only reading codes to full access to every possible computer setting in the car. ALL YOU NEED IS ONE THAT READS TRANSMISSION FLUID TEMPERATURE. The ones that can read transmission fluid temperature are not very expensive and easily found at pretty much any mechanic shop that exists. Some guys have one in their garage (I know of one online for $300).

If the dealer told you that a 7AT transmission fluid change requires a Nissan "exclusive" tool, then they are blowing smoke up your a$$. And if you believe them, I am just trying to inform you that they are blowing smoke up your a$$ :tiphat:

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Originally Posted by ssmoked (Post 3279974)
Taxes $40 (please educate me how to avoid that for the future).

:rolleyes: :stirthepot:

Break the law or move to a different country, maybe? :ugh2:

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Originally Posted by ssmoked (Post 3279974)
Rental car should be free too right?

It is at our Honda dealer :twocents:

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Originally Posted by ssmoked (Post 3279974)
So mr. JARblue how much did I get ripped off for a major service and peace of mind?

Whenever the dealer works on my car, I have anything but peace of mind :wtf2:

That is a big part of the reason I do all the work on the Z that I can, and I go to a mechanic that specializes in working on Z cars when I don't trust myself. Not to mention I've saved thousands of dollars by doing work myself (but I understand that's not for everyone).

Jsolo 08-08-2015 05:30 PM

There's a DIY on the g37 site for changing the 7AT fluid. Give it a read, not too difficult.

6MT ftw though. Just drain and refill until it starts flowing out.

Zoren 370 08-08-2015 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ssmoked (Post 3279974)
zoren 370- I went to universal Nissan. I had them check and show me before and after fluid colors of the brake, coolant, power steering fluids. Also there were fresh oil residue at the differential and transmission drain area when I checked/before I paid.
I highly doubt they shorted me on anything, especially how anal I was

Thats good if thats the case, I lost my trust with car dealers. I know not all of them are bad. End of the day... Whats important your satisfied with what you paid for and your peace of mind is indeed priceless.

Nothing wrong to pay that much if you can afford it. To some their time is more valuable which seems be your case.

Zoren 370 08-08-2015 09:23 PM

Btw your right "nothing is for free"

The Altima rental they provided you...you paid for that too.:tup:

I would say the price is fair with Nissan dealer standard
And
your dealer has good customer service.

JARblue 08-08-2015 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ssmoked (Post 3279974)
I had them check and show me before and after fluid colors of the brake, coolant, power steering fluids. Also there were fresh oil residue at the differential and transmission drain area when I checked/before I paid. I highly doubt they shorted me on anything, especially how anal I was

:tup:

zefaulter 08-15-2015 11:38 AM

Wait, wasn't the AT fluid sealed and not changeable? I remember reading it somewhere here

ssmoked 08-15-2015 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by zefaulter (Post 3285865)
Wait, wasn't the AT fluid sealed and not changeable? I remember reading it somewhere here

It's serviceable. It's just the average DIYer/shop doesn't have the tools to refill and measure the temp of the transmission oil once drained. Heck, even some Nissan dealers are clueless on how to change it.
If not done properly, a new transmission could be needed. That's why the service manual states no maintnance needed to prevent improper protocol. I guess their rationale is better to not change it than a new tranny. Or maybe they want to increase the sales of new Z when the tranny fails :icon14:


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