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Rahul718 02-08-2015 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 3105458)
Never had this issue with my Z. With the video you showed it does look like something is wrong with the sensor being to sensitive.
Tried to replicate this morning even if I shift slowly towards fifth with a pause at neutral did not get any blip on the throttle.
Plus the sound of your rev upshift doesn't sound right. Or It could be just the audio of the video.

What rpm were you doing this at? The issue with me isn't with taking too long during the shift with extended time in neutral. The issue is accidentally very slightly touching 3rd on the way to 5th.

JARblue 02-09-2015 11:59 AM

Just saw this thread today. Seems very similar.

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...nsitivity.html

NismoNY 02-09-2015 02:36 PM

Same thing happens to me and only on the 4-5 up shift!

But from some of the replies here, it seems it the 4-5 shift isn't supposed to be that sensitive in regards to 3rd gear.

I've honestly just turned the SRM off and I enjoy it more but I know that's not a good enough reason to not use SRM if it isn't working the right way.

Did you ever end up going to the dealer?

Rahul718 02-11-2015 01:46 PM

Well, it's been a few days of careful upshifting from 4th - 5th and it's been ok. Maybe it was driver error after all? I do strongly believe that the 3rd gear gate is more sensitive in my car than other Zs. It is what it is.

I figure if something was truly wrong that the SRM light would pop up.

JARblue 02-11-2015 02:07 PM

I didn't have my Z all last weekend, but I did have several chances to try and recreate your experience over the past several days. I think one time out of probably 50-60 shifts it did something very similar to your video. I don't know that your experience is normal, but it seems that it's not completely out of the ordinary.

I tried all sorts of speeds in shifting, pauses, and even some double clutching in my testing. The SRM response varied slightly depending on my input. Earlier I said that SRM should be extremely consistent. This is true, but only when all the variables are the same. Since the input is changing constantly, it's difficult to recreate the exact circumstances every time. It seemed that minor variances in speed at the time of or acceleration/deceleration prior to shifting would alter the SRM response slightly. Also, the speed of the shift and any pauses in the motion can affect what SRM thinks you are trying to do. I did find it very difficult to set off the 3rd gear gate sensor without a full 1K jump in revs, and it did not seem like 'brushing' against it on the 4-5 shift should ever trigger SRM to think you were going to 3rd gear.

The only suggestion I have is to check the alignment of the shifter assembly. Although, if you are completely stock, I don't see why that would be an issue. Plus it's not uncommon for Nissan to use so much locktite that you have to tear up the stock shift knob to get it off. Not good if you don't have a replacement ready and waiting.

Rahul718 02-11-2015 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3108866)
I think one time out of probably 50-60 shifts it did something very similar to your video.

This is all I needed to hear haha. So it was a 4-5 upshift and the RPM went up a bit on the way?

It's awesome of you to have tried this - it definitely helps put things into perspective

JARblue 02-11-2015 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rahul718 (Post 3108874)
This is all I needed to hear haha. So it was a 4-5 upshift and the RPM went up a bit on the way?

It's awesome of you to have tried this - it definitely helps put things into perspective

Yup, I was probably around 3900 RPM in 4th gear cruising steadily. I made a slightly slower than normal shift (not excessively slow but deliberate) and it kicked up probably 500-600 revs to 4500 RPM before dropping to around 3500 RPM as I let the clutch out in 5th. I did not come anywhere near 3rd gear during the shift, and if I had SRM would have kicked up to 5K RPMs at that speed.

I also had no luck faking SRM out by hitting a gate - it was either all or nothing in terms of SRM revving up no matter what gear I tried (although it's kinda tough to downshift into 6th in the MT lol).

NismoNY 02-16-2015 08:37 PM

Hey OP, any updates? how's your SRM now? I had the same issue as you and can confirm it was 100% driver error. Everyday I'm doing many upshifts and high and low rpm from 4th to 5th and it's fine but its because I've been very mindful of making clean shifts.

Rahul718 02-17-2015 08:38 AM

It's definitely much better actually, though it happened once (very minimal) a few days ago. Out of a hundred or so 4-5 upshifts, that was the only time anything like that remotely happened. And when I shifted, I felt I didn't execute it 100%, so that probably caused it to happen.

I figure if the SRM unit is bad, it's not going to be "picky" with what it wants to do. Basically, if it's messed up, it'll be messed up for every shift and not just occasionally.

NismoNY 02-18-2015 08:00 AM

I'll agree on the 2nd part.... if there's something wrong with srm it would probably show up every time.

That Pale Guy 03-18-2015 01:59 PM

Yeah its 100% driver error. I had this happen to me too when I first started driving the car. Glad to see you resolved it.


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