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koeppelnissan 08-09-2014 12:51 PM

MY 2015 370Z changes and trim levels
 
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Here are the chnages for the 2015 370Z.

NoHyperbole 08-09-2014 07:07 PM

Thanks for sharing this information. A few questions have arisen. I don't want to make assumptions about equipment on certain models, so here goes:

1. Is there no longer a model that is a Touring/Sport combination? Apparently, the Touring model includes the Tech package as standard, but not the Sport package.

2. In the description for the Sport Tech model, the Bose audio system is included, but what about the 2 extra speakers and 2 subwoofers, which are both individually listed and included in the Touring model description?

3. In the description for the Sport Tech model, the auto-dimming rear view mirror is included, but what about the Homelink universal transceiver, which is included in the Touring model description?

4. Does either the Sport or Sport Tech model include aluminum-trimmed pedals, which is standard on the Touring model?

5. Does the Sport Tech model include XM satellite radio and the in-dash 6-CD changer, which are standard on the Touring model?

The NISMO and NISMO Tech descriptions are redundant. I'm also interested in seeing if the wheels have new designs or just different colors.

Nargrakhan 08-11-2014 11:56 AM

Interesting... you can't get touring + sports + leather seats in the 2015. For those of us selling or trading an older model, that might be worthwhile to bring up for squeezing a little more $$$.

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Originally Posted by NoHyperbole (Post 2925601)
The NISMO and NISMO Tech descriptions are redundant.

Yea. Looks like someone just cut-and-pasted the lines without double checking. It's supposed to inculde the navigation package. That's the only difference between NISMO and NISMO Tech... storage bin versus navigation console. Then again, the letter is for internal use only, so I suppose the proof reading was lax.

koeppelnissan 08-12-2014 11:09 AM

I posted the info as it was received, but won't have many answers until we begin receiving the cars. They don't always give the dealers all of the necessary info, which makes are jobs tough!

NoHyperbole 08-14-2014 09:46 AM

According to the info on Nissan's website, here are the answers to my earlier questions.

1. There is no Touring/Sport model for 2015.

2. The Sport Tech model includes the same Bose audio system as the Touring.

3. The Sport Tech model includes the Homelink universal transceiver.

4. Neither the Sport nor the Sport Tech model includes aluminum pedals.

5. The Sport Tech model includes XM satellite radio. I'm not sure if the CD player is single-disc or a changer; this feature is becoming increasingly irrelevant anyway.

The wheel designs are the same. The Base and Touring wheels appear to be black in the center and silver at the edges.

ajc1884 08-14-2014 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by NoHyperbole (Post 2930530)
According to the info on Nissan's website, here are the answers to my earlier questions.

1. There is no Touring/Sport model for 2015.

2. The Sport Tech model includes the same Bose audio system as the Touring.

3. The Sport Tech model includes the Homelink universal transceiver.

4. Neither the Sport nor the Sport Tech model includes aluminum pedals.

5. The Sport Tech model includes XM satellite radio. I'm not sure if the CD player is single-disc or a changer; this feature is becoming increasingly irrelevant anyway.

The wheel designs are the same. The Base and Touring wheels appear to be black in the center and silver at the edges.

#5= truth I haven't used a CD since 2010 I think.. :icon18:

NoHyperbole 08-15-2014 10:23 AM

Here's a question for koeppelnissan: Because there is no longer a Touring/Sport model for 2015, does that make you more willing (the 2015 is a better value) or less willing (the 2014 has more content and is now rare) to discount your 2014 Touring/Sport models?

Basically, the 2015 Sport Tech is about $3,300 less than a 2014 Touring/Sport. The 2015 Sport Tech lacks the power heated leather seats, upgraded door trim, cargo cover, and aluminum pedals of the 2014 Touring/Sport, but I believe it has everything else. This may be a great tradeoff for those who want the upgraded audio system and navigation (which were heretofore unavailable at this price point and trim level) but can live without those other items.

Nargrakhan 08-15-2014 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NoHyperbole (Post 2931868)
The 2015 Sport Tech lacks the power heated leather seats, upgraded door trim, cargo cover, and aluminum pedals of the 2014 Touring/Sport, but I believe it has everything else.

I noticed this as well. I'm using the difference for trade-in/private sale negotiations. I happen to own a 2014 with EVERY premium non-NISMO factory installed feature (right down to the illuminated kickplates and metal logo carpets).

Here's something neat: the dealers in my area were NOT aware of the "feature drop" that a maxed out (non-NISMO) 2015 had suffered compared to the 2014. They seem blinded by the 2015 number and automatically think it has the superior option packages.

NoHyperbole 08-15-2014 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Nargrakhan (Post 2932162)
Here's something neat: the dealers in my area were NOT aware of the "feature drop" that a maxed out (non-NISMO) 2015 had suffered compared to the 2014. They seem blinded by the 2015 number and automatically think it has the superior option packages.

It's unfortunate that they haven't yet dug deeper into the differences. I'm curious to see how this affects resale value.

koeppelnissan 08-16-2014 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by NoHyperbole (Post 2931868)
Here's a question for koeppelnissan: Because there is no longer a Touring/Sport model for 2015, does that make you more willing (the 2015 is a better value) or less willing (the 2014 has more content and is now rare) to discount your 2014 Touring/Sport models?

Basically, the 2015 Sport Tech is about $3,300 less than a 2014 Touring/Sport. The 2015 Sport Tech lacks the power heated leather seats, upgraded door trim, cargo cover, and aluminum pedals of the 2014 Touring/Sport, but I believe it has everything else. This may be a great tradeoff for those who want the upgraded audio system and navigation (which were heretofore unavailable at this price point and trim level) but can live without those other items.

It really comes down to the dealer. I am looking to get aggressive on my 14s, and just move on to the 15s. Nissan probably won't give us much more in the way of incentives, so break even now or lose money later is the way I look at them. Also, I want to make room to carry more 15s, rather than trying to juggle both. We try to maintain a 10-15 Z inventory through the spring and summer, many other dealers carry a handful at most.

Many other dealers may not even know the difference or availability of 2015 Zs, so they won't look at it the same way as dealers that are active in the community

NoHyperbole 08-16-2014 04:20 PM

That's excellent information that is valuable to this community. I thank you for taking the time to provide it.

JDubya 08-16-2014 05:07 PM

For some reason I can't find this anywhere (could just be terrible at searching), and it feels like an appropriate question for this thread. When will the 2015s actually start to arrive at dealerships?

NoLaKrewe 08-16-2014 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by koeppelnissan (Post 2925354)
Here are the chnages for the 2015 370Z.

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Originally Posted by koeppelnissan (Post 2933174)
It really comes down to the dealer. I am looking to get aggressive on my 14s, and just move on to the 15s. Nissan probably won't give us much more in the way of incentives, so break even now or lose money later is the way I look at them. Also, I want to make room to carry more 15s, rather than trying to juggle both. We try to maintain a 10-15 Z inventory through the spring and summer, many other dealers carry a handful at most.

Many other dealers may not even know the difference or availability of 2015 Zs, so they won't look at it the same way as dealers that are active in the community

Great info. I'm bouncing back in forth on 2014 or 2015 Sport Z. Do you know if the 0% interest is going to last past September? I can't buy a car until Octoberish.

Nargrakhan 08-18-2014 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JDubya (Post 2933392)
For some reason I can't find this anywhere (could just be terrible at searching), and it feels like an appropriate question for this thread. When will the 2015s actually start to arrive at dealerships?

Nissan officially took orders the first week of August. Assuming they had a batch of US models already built in Japan when they opened requests... some very generalized guestimates:

1 week to transport from the factory to a seaport.
1 week for Japanese customs to process before ship leaves.
4 weeks for shipping across the ocean.
1 week for US customs to process after ship arrives.
1 week to transport from seaport to dealer.

That makes a total of 8 weeks? So October for the first batch to arrive?

Magic Bus 08-18-2014 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Nargrakhan (Post 2935012)
Nissan officially took orders the first week of August. Assuming they had a batch of US models already built in Japan when they opened requests... some very generalized guestimates:

1 week to transport from the factory to a seaport.
1 week for Japanese customs to process before ship leaves.
4 weeks for shipping across the ocean.
1 week for US customs to process after ship arrives.
1 week to transport from seaport to dealer.

That makes a total of 8 weeks? So October for the first batch to arrive?

West Coast could be about 3 to 4 weeks less.

Nargrakhan 08-24-2014 04:47 PM

Local dealer got shipment of two manual 2015 coupes. No sign of the 2015 NISMO's though. More I've been probing about a delivery date, the more it seems Nissan did NOT have a batch of 2015 NISMO's ready for shipment when they opened orders... just the "ordinary" coupes.

Still waiting for mine to arrive.

Nargrakhan 08-24-2014 07:43 PM

An interesting conversation I had with a regional manager. Not sure if he was BS'ing me or not, but I'll repeat what he told me and see if it clicks right with others:

* All 370Z's are built at a single location: the factory at Tochigi. There is only one assembly line for the Z, and it's retooled each time for the different models. This is why the 2015 coupes are out on the lots, but there are no 2015 NISMO. Nissan has to slightly retool the line to assemble the NISMO, and they hadn't done that yet.

* Nissan has a date range when they accept orders; then actually build the cars to fill those orders. The NISMO range is currently still open. Once the window closes, Nissan builds the cars to arrive within 90 days. Requests that miss the deadline, must wait until the next opening before they are fulfilled (thus being more than 90 days). These windows are rotated to fit the coupe and NISMO retools.

* This is why there's a flood of 2015 coupes happening now. There will be a flood of 2015 NISMO next. The regional manager didn't know when the NISMO retool would occur - only that it was expected to happen soon. Because the NISMO is somewhat costlier, he doesn't think the NISMO order window/production run will last as long as the coupe's.

* Many of the coupes being fulfilled right now, were actually ordered before the 2015 was formally announced. Some dealers just automatically order the oncoming year without waiting, as a measure to keep inventory fresh. This is why many of the 2015 coupes showing up on the lots right now, don't have the Tech Package option. Dealers didn't request for it, because no one knew it was going to be a thing.

JDubya 08-24-2014 09:40 PM

Great info! Thanks for keeping up with this thread.

koeppelnissan 08-26-2014 01:20 PM

The information Nissan has leaked hasn't been consistent. I am hoping to start receiving 15s in mid September, but really playing it by ear. They have made many changes, from regions, to personall, and even who and where distrtibution comes from, so we actually don't have any info that I would be comfortable releasing as it all seems toi change pretty frequently at this point!

Jordo! 08-26-2014 01:34 PM

So... weirdly only the Nismo gets the aluminum pedals or did I misread? Not a big deal, but just wondering.

Limeybastard 08-26-2014 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Nargrakhan (Post 2941837)
An interesting conversation I had with a regional manager. Not sure if he was BS'ing me or not, but I'll repeat what he told me and see if it clicks right with others:

* All 370Z's are built at a single location: the factory at Tochigi. There is only one assembly line for the Z, and it's retooled each time for the different models. This is why the 2015 coupes are out on the lots, but there are no 2015 NISMO. Nissan has to slightly retool the line to assemble the NISMO, and they hadn't done that yet.

* Nissan has a date range when they accept orders; then actually build the cars to fill those orders. The NISMO range is currently still open. Once the window closes, Nissan builds the cars to arrive within 90 days. Requests that miss the deadline, must wait until the next opening before they are fulfilled (thus being more than 90 days). These windows are rotated to fit the coupe and NISMO retools.

* This is why there's a flood of 2015 coupes happening now. There will be a flood of 2015 NISMO next. The regional manager didn't know when the NISMO retool would occur - only that it was expected to happen soon. Because the NISMO is somewhat costlier, he doesn't think the NISMO order window/production run will last as long as the coupe's.

* Many of the coupes being fulfilled right now, were actually ordered before the 2015 was formally announced. Some dealers just automatically order the oncoming year without waiting, as a measure to keep inventory fresh. This is why many of the 2015 coupes showing up on the lots right now, don't have the Tech Package option. Dealers didn't request for it, because no one knew it was going to be a thing.


Sounds about right. I heard something similar with the convertibles.

NoHyperbole 08-27-2014 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 2943654)
So... weirdly only the Nismo gets the aluminum pedals or did I misread? Not a big deal, but just wondering.

I believe the Touring has the aluminum pedals.

Nargrakhan 09-02-2014 02:37 PM

Taken from the Nissan USA search engine:

**** SMITH NISSAN, SC
JN1AZ4EH1FM440247


CENTRAL VALLEY NISSAN, CA
JN1AZ4EH3FM440394


ANDERSON NISSAN, AZ
JN1AZ4EHXFM440215


GARDENA NISSAN, CA
JN1AZ4EHXFM440263


Of the two sites that bothered making a page, neither have actual photos of the cars: just stock pictures at best. Not sure if that's tardiness or because they're still waiting for the Z's to show up (i.e. preorders).

In any case: they're in the wild (or going to be). Good hunting for those seeking one.

Nargrakhan 09-22-2014 11:58 AM

For anyone who still cares.

Giving credit where it's due: took this from a post by 70boss off a Nissan Titan forum. Didn't direct link to the OP because my malware said the site is infected.

Quote:

Here is the system for Ordering Nissan Products.

The first week of every month, dealers have 2-4 days to review their allocations, and modify cars to suit their order needs. Dealers are not guaranteed to get any allocations since they are based on sales efficiency and inventory.

If you "ORDER" your car, the dealer can only order it during this period and actually specify your individual options. THIS IS THE ONLY TIME. Sometimes there are restrictions..such as 25% DVD, 10% Tec package...etc.

Orders placed are for the NEXT months production. Meaning...orders placed in Feb. will be built in March, and will be delivered afterwards.

Delivery: Domestic production..example:

Titan, Quest, Armada...Canton plant...If it gets built the first week of say....MARCH....it will get to the dealer MAYBE by late March, but most likely April. March production...most cars will be delivered the following month.

Japanese built products...add another 30 days minimum.


I just wanted to clarify the order process. If you order your car Feb 10, and it is already past the Feb. product order cycle....YOUR ORDER WILL NOT BE ACTUALLY ENTERED until the following production cycle....March...meaning April build, May delivery.

VIN numbers are not issued until very near the build date.

The following info I got from my dealer. These are the "most common" status codes in the Nissan ordering system that dealers use:

ONS = Order Not Serialized. This means the Nissan factory has recieved the dealer's order and the car schedued for building. The only information the dealer can access is the date Nissan got your order request, the estimated month the car will be built, and a Nissan issue order number.

SIT = Sea in Transit. Name is misleading. The status code changes to this once the car is actually being built. The VIN is issued after a few days after the change. An ETA for arrival to the dealership is provided after the car leaves the factory for loading on a ship.

LIT = Land in Transit. Same thing as SIT, except the car is being built in your country and not overseas. Doesn't apply to the Z, but some Nissan models are built in the United States for example. SIT does NOT change to LIT when the car arrives, even if the car is being sent via rail or trailer. See next status code below...

DLR INV = Dealer Inventory. Also somewhat misleading. The status code changes to this after the car has arrived to it's destination country and the dealer has been charged for the car. Does NOT mean it's on the dealer's lot. Might mean the car is on it's way via rail or trailer.

NAA INV = North America Inventory. Nissan already has the car with the requested specifications already built at a North American storage facility. You're not getting a factory built car; it's that prebuilt car. Not a bad thing. From time to time, Nissan builds more cars than dealers order. That's what causes this overflow.

koeppelnissan 09-29-2014 12:38 PM

We used to order the first week of the month, but Nissan recently changed CPO (current production orders, I think) to the last few days of the month, right before the end!

Jordo! 09-29-2014 06:34 PM

Thanks for the answer to my pedal question :tup:

Quick follow-up: Is it true that new base models with the 7AT do not have paddle shifters -- that the paddles are a sport and up option only???

Nargrakhan 09-30-2014 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 2982600)
Thanks for the answer to my pedal question :tup:

Quick follow-up: Is it true that new base models with the 7AT do not have paddle shifters -- that the paddles are a sport and up option only???

That is true. The base 2015 does NOT have paddle shifters with the 7AT.

Nissan probably removed them to cut costs.

Nargrakhan 10-01-2014 09:28 AM

More useless facts:

The actual time for cargo ships to leave Japan and reach California is between 10 to 17 days (mostly dependent on mechanical mishaps and weather conditions). The ubiquitous estimate of 30 days is mostly due to the adage, "tell a customer it takes twice as long and they'll be grateful it was half." However shipping delays are very common due to port authority in both countries. Sometimes a cargo ship will sit in a harbor for days, waiting for permission to leave/exit because piers are full or there's a harbor inspection. Plus it takes about a week to load and unload cars (most car vessels carry around 1000 to 2000 vehicles).

Nissan owns a fleet of cargo ships (City of St. Petersburg and Nichioh Maru are well known), but also uses dedicated shipping firms. If you can get the vessel's name, there are websites that let you track them going across the ocean. Nissan generally tries to get ships arriving to California on a weekly basis. They don't wait a full 20 to 34 days for the same ship to make a round trip: there's steady rotation of vessels coming and going throughout the month. Nonetheless, weather and mechanical mishaps can delay the time tables.

Limeybastard 10-01-2014 02:34 PM

Or the cargo ship sinks...

http://www.rx8club.com/general-automotive-49/cougar-ace-great-$103-million-snafu-sea-158625/

Then stripped and scrapped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcpiF51gJRE

Nargrakhan 10-16-2014 07:39 PM

Destination and Handling fee for the Z went up: it was $810 and is now $835. Only noticed it this morning, when playing around with the online builder. Didn't hear any official announcement about the increase.

Yen/Dollar conversion rate?

Antistupid 10-17-2014 07:29 PM

So Nissan can ship a car across the pacific for 835 bucks but the destination charge on a Ford f150 is nearly 1000. Go ahead Mr america.

kynseon 12-05-2014 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NoHyperbole (Post 2932436)
It's unfortunate that they haven't yet dug deeper into the differences. I'm curious to see how this affects resale value.

I just recently bought my 2014 with every option available.. sport tech and touring.. at 34k.. it had 9k miles and still had all warranties.. I think i got a bargain.. They really didnt know what they had. I looked the new 2015 online and it seemed like I couldnt build a sportech touring.. and I chat with a nissan rep and they told me that they dont do that anymore.

Hopefully resale value goes up for us with 2014 premiums


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