What to Look out for.
 

so im going to talk to the dealer about a specific car tmr, i know enough but not enough to know whether something happened to the car or not, i read some past posts about shody paint jobs and ect ect.

anything specific that i can see without having to put the car up on jacks?

route 46 nissan is the one im going to and there dealer reviews are terrible...

but they have what i want and i have money on hand. i just dont want to buy used and then find out somethings wrong with it

let me know

If the reviews all tell you to stay away, stay away. You've waited this long. No sense in rushing now and taking it in the ***.

Get a CarFax, other than that buying a used car can be a gamble. Dealer could lie to you for all you know. I mean I was sold a defective brand new car with a paint job that needed to be repainted.

ok i carfaxed it and the car has a lien/loan record other than that itssuper clean.
what is a lien/loan record?

So you're disregarding all of the bad reviews of the dealership? I'd walk if all of the reviews are overwhelmingly negative.

Based on this you should probably do more research before buying. Don't need to rush this thing, its better to be PATIENT and wait a week or month and not completely **** yourself over.

This. Learn about financing and find a better dealer without a lot of terrible reviews.

so im going to assume then that a lien record is not a good one? to the little knowledge i have off hand isnt it that the person who bought the car couldnt pay for it?

It probably means that the previous owner had a loan. As long as the title is clear, it shouldn't be a problem. But I would want to buy from a dealer with a better reputation. Why are you even considering buying from a dealer with such poor reports?

i mean the car is the car regardless of the dealer if i get it at a price i think is reasonable isnt that ok? sry or ignorance just gotta get it all in before i go today

Sure. That makes sense. Most of the reviews are awful, but it'll be different for you. Go for it. I don't think we can really help you anymore. We've done this dance with you for a long time. Buy the car or don't.

what shall we call this dance mr chuck

Dude, you keep coming in here asking questions you should know the answer to if you're going to make a purchase of this size. When we give you advice like "stay away from shitty dealers" you respond by telling us " It's ok, I really want this car". You've made these threads for a long time, and it doesn't seem like anything is sinking in. Your enthusiasm is trying to get you to make a bad impulsive purchase. We keep trying to stop you and getting resistance. So good luck with your Z. I really do hope you get one this time, but you may end up in a situation you don't want to be in if you rush.

The fact that you don't know what a lien is means you shouldn't be walking into a dealership especially by yourself. Get an adult to go with you at least. Based on everything you've said you have no idea about buying/financing a car and if the dealer has such bad reviews they are going to smell this ignorance all over you.

Stop telling us you need to walk in today. That car isn't going anywhere, it will still be around for when you get a clue.

MODS: sorry if this is harsh or too much delete it if you want but this guy just won't listen to anyone being nice so I'm trying the tough love approach.

guys guys. 1 its minsu...not minus...
2. i understand that i ask for your opinion and you have to realize that its your opinion it can be taken or not, and everything you guys said over this couple of month have been taken into food for thought and i have been researching one way or another. and your right i do need to take someone with more knowledge of financing and thats what im gonna do. im not trollin anyone, think of it as a kid whos bad at math and constantly asks is 0/1 is 1 or 0 or nothing at all. 3 not posting for your entertainment, you can find that elsewhere no?

Thanks.

PS. and i also get some of you guys are older than me and im sure you lived your fair share of decisions good and bad. But yea, didnt want to come off as being trollish, like i said i coach tennis for a living and when kids ask me how to hit this one ball over and over and over and over and over again yea i get it, it gets to you, but it takes patience until they do hit one over the net and the look on their face is joy enough for me. thanks.

Understanding Vehicle Financing | Consumer Information

Read this. Google related topics. You need to come up to speed on how all of this stuff works BEFORE you go car shopping. Get your financing in order from a local credit union BEFORE you set foot in a dealership. Do not go into the dealer with the kind of excitement you're showing here. You WILL get raped. Those dealer reviews are there for a reason. Listen to them. The reason we're frustrated is it seems we start with square one with you each time you make this thread. Don't set up time requirements like "Ive got to go today". The longer you wait, the more money you save and the better your credit gets if you're being responsible. You may have to wait longer than you think, or look further away from home for the car. All of these are temporary inconveniences compared to getting bent over because you had to have the car right now.

what happened to that camaro or whatever it is you wanted to buy? Go get one of those instead. Those are way faster than a 370...

Yeah what Chuck said. You talk to us about patience and how you're patient with your tennis students but then you come in here and talk about having to walk in and buy right away...

...what happened to Joe @ Koeppel?

I'm pretty sure 10000% Joe would have hooked you up easily.

Joe (Koeppel):
- has better reviews I'm sure of it.
- if he doesn't have it in stock, he can get it for you no problem
- you're helping out a forum sponsor
- He'll get you good pricing without all the bullsh!t talk.
- Joe will not pull your strings, lie to you, rape you on hidden fees and things like that.
- He'll work with you and will not force you to buy the car unless you're 100% ready

They have what you want at the price you're willing to pay. So just do it already, people will always say 'Wait for the perfect time/car to show up', now's the opportunity.

Just buy the damn car already at this dealership you're talking about. If you get screwed over by them because you didn't listen to the reviews you saw/we gave, consider it an expensive lesson learned.

I'm in for good results (unlikely) bad results (definitely expecting them).

I've tried and offered my help numerous times

sorry joe your prices were just a bit over what i was looking for im still talking with route 46 nissan on a white 2012 z sports with 10k miles im looking at 30k right now im trying to talk them down some.

Still working with the dealership with awful reviews? Jesus.

When I was pricing the 2012s, they were new a year and a half ago. Now you are looking at them pre-owned, of course they are selling for less!

:facepalm:

Good luck dude

:wtf2:

:icon18:Get your logic out of here! We want none of what you're selling!:inoutroflpuke:

if that's true :facepalm:

OP should just buy a Kia and be done with it.