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johncarlopang 05-01-2013 02:51 AM

2009 370z $19000 opinion
 
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MAsters i need your opinion. someone is offering me for a 370z 2009 Automatic Transmission for $19,000 with 59,000 miles on it.

Not Salvage/Rebuilt,
Transmission: Automatic
Make: Nissan
Body Type: Coupe
Model: 370Z
Trim: Base + Sport + 7AT
Options: Leather Seats
Engine: 3.7L V6


and this is how the transaction will be. this is the message of the seller.
seller is from different state and im from LasVegas Nevada. please help me if this is a scam, he gave me also the VIN number



SELLER: "Now, you will have the car for testing and a proper inspection, this is the only way to buy a car. If you can find any issue with it you can cancel the transaction no questions asked.
As I've told you, I'm not in US now. However, if you want to buy the car, it seems logical for me to do an inspection before pay me, so I did some research and found Google Wallet:
A Smarter and Safer way to purchase or sell your vehicle online - Google Wallet
How it works:
You will deposit 50% of the money to Google Wallet and they will keep the money until you will receive and inspect the car. You will have a 5 days inspection period. If the car is not as described it will be shipped back on my expense and they will give you a full refund. This way, you will be able to inspect the vehicle before committing to buy it and I know that you have the money and you aren't just fooling around.
Giving the nature of this transaction please note that my sale terms are final and non negotiable. In order to move forward and register the transaction with Google Wallet I will need your full name, address and phone number, after that they will contact you with the payment instructions. I don't want to offend you, but the car is priced for a fast sale so please if you intend to apply for a loan or financing do not reply to this message!"


please help me.... anyone knows if google wallet is reliable? ive attached fro some actual pics of the car. Thanks

DEpointfive0 05-01-2013 02:57 AM

Give me a min

DEpointfive0 05-01-2013 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2294632)
Give me a min

The car you posted is this car:
http://www.the370z.com/370z-sale/663...ou-decide.html



And this guy ain't lowering his price because he's... Out there

DEpointfive0 05-01-2013 03:24 AM

That being said, you have my vote for scam

johncarlopang 05-01-2013 03:32 AM

so its a scam? its not true that he is selling the car? please give me more inputs

SS_Firehawk 05-01-2013 04:26 AM

Yeah, that car is $40k. It looked familiar. Now we are ging to have to watermark our stuff to prevent scams? Haha.

johncarlopang 05-01-2013 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 2294658)
Yeah, that car is $40k. It looked familiar. Now we are ging to have to watermark our stuff to prevent scams? Haha.

I dont get it. So the seller is not the actual seller who posted here on 370z forum? I mean google wallet is not safe?

SS_Firehawk 05-01-2013 04:56 AM

Ask him to take a picture with the current date and forum name on there. For good measure, ask for something random to be in the picture such as a food item. Regardless of if "he's out of town" someone can surely take a picture of that.

DEpointfive0 05-01-2013 05:01 AM

Texted

DEpointfive0 05-01-2013 05:05 AM

Texting OP, car he found is a scam for sure

johncarlopang 05-01-2013 05:23 AM

Yeah i was trying to ask him to give me more pictures eapecially the interiors and he said "First of all the car is in a sealed container ready for dispatch. It is impossible for me to take more pictures."

Jasonle 05-01-2013 06:45 AM

definitely scam

diddy535 05-01-2013 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johncarlopang (Post 2294678)
Yeah i was trying to ask him to give me more pictures eapecially the interiors and he said "First of all the car is in a sealed container ready for dispatch. It is impossible for me to take more pictures."

Seriously?

122554 05-01-2013 08:04 AM

Scam!

"Ready for dispatch". Have you ever heard anyone from the US use that term?

Before you buy it, contact me. A long lost uncle of yours has left you $3.4 million in a Nigerian bank. All you have to do is send me a cashiers check for $50000 to cover processing!

Cmike2780 05-01-2013 08:06 AM

If it sounds too good to be true....

Even if this was legit, you're just asking for trouble. Never put money on a car without seeing it in person. You're the buyer. You decide when to inspect the car and when to fork over your cash.

Even if I were strapped for cash, there is no way I'd drop the price anywhere close to what this guy is offering you. It's half of what he was originally selling it for.

theDreamer 05-01-2013 08:07 AM

Oh yeah huge scam.
Use to see these all the time on other car forums, people "claim" to own the car and just steal pictures from sale ads (autotrader, craigslist, etc.) and post them in other cities. Claim they are not here and cannot take more pictures, want a deposit so you test the car.

zak's z 05-01-2013 08:15 AM

Oh yeah, it's a scam. This guy isn't even trying hard. Read all the words he's saying to you. It's up to you to research and take due diligence with your money. I see this all the time. THIS. IS. A. SCAM.

Read this from my Z website. I lead on a scammer and have some fun with him. They use the same container / shipping BS you're being told. LOLZ!

Fun with scammers: 300 ZX for sale.

Zak

ZBro16 05-01-2013 08:53 AM

I found the email that dude tried to send OP:

From: Mr. Wong Du
Seoul,South Korea.

Dearest Johncarlopang:

I will introduce myself I am Mr.Wong du a Banker working in a bank in south Korea Until now I am the account officer to most of the south Korea government accounts and I have since discovered that most of the account are dormant account with a lot of money and Nissan 370Z in the account on further investigation I found out that one particular Nissan 370Z belong to the former president of south Korean MR PARK CHUNG HEE,who ruled south Korean from 1963-1979 and this particular account has a deposit of $48m with no next of kin and Nissan 370Z.

My proposal is that since I am the account officer and the money or the account and Nissan 370Z is dormant and there is no next of kin obviously the account owner the former president of South Korea has died long time ago, that you should provide an account for the money to be transferred.

The money that is floating in the bank right now is $48m and Nissan 370Z and this is what I want to transfer to your account for our mutual benefit.

Please if this is okay by you I will advice that you contact me through my direct email address for delivery of Nissan 370Z and account contents.

Please this transaction should be kept confidential. I cannot provide pictures of Nissan 370Z due to dispatch preparation of vehicle. For your assistance as the account owner we shall share the money on equal basis and Nissan 370Z.

Your reply will be appreciated,

Thank you.

Wong Du

zefaulter 05-01-2013 09:36 AM

Lol

nepali 05-01-2013 09:48 AM

Goodness...as soon as I saw the 50% deposit part, I already knew that it's a scam. It does not even need any further research. And the part about being out of country, they all use that same line.

JARblue 05-01-2013 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zak's z (Post 2294797)
Oh yeah, it's a scam. This guy isn't even trying hard. Read all the words he's saying to you. It's up to you to research and take due diligence with your money. I see this all the time. THIS. IS. A. SCAM.

Read this from my Z website. I lead on a scammer and have some fun with him. They use the same container / shipping BS you're being told. LOLZ!

Fun with scammers: 300 ZX for sale.

Zak

:icon18: Nicely done, sir :tiphat: Entertaining read :tup:

NickTurnon 05-01-2013 09:52 AM

I think the price is right or close to what an 09 costs.. @ 56,000 you are right around $20k for a base..

This ones loaded. I call scam..

I never trust overseas deals.. No matter how much I like it, I just say no thanks.

ZKraken22 05-01-2013 10:02 AM

It's a scam smae thing happened to me when i was looking for a GTR

johncarlopang 05-01-2013 11:22 AM

Thanks everyone for helping

DEpointfive0 05-01-2013 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johncarlopang (Post 2295269)
Thanks everyone for helping

I think you sleep less than me, lol
Then again you're in Vegas, LOL :roflpuke2:

I'm going to go to sleep and I'll try to help you find the 370Z for you, lol
General "my" rule of thumb, you want to pay a bit less than the KBB trade in value for a car

johncarlopang 05-01-2013 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2295285)
I think you sleep less than me, lol
Then again you're in Vegas, LOL :roflpuke2:

I'm going to go to sleep and I'll try to help you find the 370Z for you, lol
General "my" rule of thumb, you want to pay a bit less than the KBB trade in value for a car

well yeah 350z and 370z. i saw a bunch on craiglist vegas of 350z and i dont know which one gives a good deal. :ughdance:

SS_Firehawk 05-01-2013 11:43 AM

John, I had good luck at Henderson Nissan. I recommend them if you find one there. I would give you the salesman's name, but he moved on. Their Service center isn't bad either, they actually recommended my Wife not change her pads left because they still had plenty of life and replaced the fluid instead.

homeryansta 05-01-2013 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZBro16 (Post 2294874)
I found the email that dude tried to send OP:

From: Mr. Wong Du
Seoul,South Korea.

Dearest Johncarlopang:

I will introduce myself I am Mr.Wong du a Banker working in a bank in south Korea Until now I am the account officer to most of the south Korea government accounts and I have since discovered that most of the account are dormant account with a lot of money and Nissan 370Z in the account on further investigation I found out that one particular Nissan 370Z belong to the former president of south Korean MR PARK CHUNG HEE,who ruled south Korean from 1963-1979 and this particular account has a deposit of $48m with no next of kin and Nissan 370Z.

My proposal is that since I am the account officer and the money or the account and Nissan 370Z is dormant and there is no next of kin obviously the account owner the former president of South Korea has died long time ago, that you should provide an account for the money to be transferred.

The money that is floating in the bank right now is $48m and Nissan 370Z and this is what I want to transfer to your account for our mutual benefit.

Please if this is okay by you I will advice that you contact me through my direct email address for delivery of Nissan 370Z and account contents.

Please this transaction should be kept confidential. I cannot provide pictures of Nissan 370Z due to dispatch preparation of vehicle. For your assistance as the account owner we shall share the money on equal basis and Nissan 370Z.

Your reply will be appreciated,

Thank you.

Wong Du

Guy is probably long dead sine he ruled a long time ago. He probaby wasn't alive in 2009 to purchase a 370z ;)

cossie1600 05-01-2013 12:28 PM

Are these guys US or international based? Do they actually make money off these scams? I am curious with these guys. When I get these letters, I just get them to send their fake money order to the police department here.

johncarlopang 05-01-2013 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 2295319)
John, I had good luck at Henderson Nissan. I recommend them if you find one there. I would give you the salesman's name, but he moved on. Their Service center isn't bad either, they actually recommended my Wife not change her pads left because they still had plenty of life and replaced the fluid instead.

i have no time i guess to go on henderson. pretty much close enough here on Las vegas im looking for. :tup:

JARblue 05-01-2013 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 2295407)
Are these guys US or international based? Do they actually make money off these scams? I am curious with these guys. When I get these letters, I just get them to send their fake money order to the police department here.

:icon18: that's rich... someone should respond that you are also out of the country (and it happens to be the same as the scammer) and try to get him to meet up somewhere to give him cash :bowrofl:

cossie1600 05-01-2013 12:50 PM

That actually sounds like an idea. Or I am going to pretend to be a hot 19 year old, sucker him into doing stupid stuff haha

Trips 05-01-2013 02:16 PM

Great LOOKING out Andrew!!! :tup:

TaylorRyan370 05-01-2013 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2294636)
The car you posted is this car:
http://www.the370z.com/370z-sale/663...ou-decide.html

And this guy ain't lowering his price because he's... Out there

That car needs to drop in price at least 10k to sell. Mods really don't add much to the value, I learned that when I sold my Camaro.

SS_Firehawk 05-01-2013 03:00 PM

Yeah. Mods are worth so much more off the car, haha. Funny how that works.

Tribalpinoy91 05-01-2013 03:09 PM

I wouldn't wanna be caught dead in that ronald mcdonald looking POS

johncarlopang 05-01-2013 04:50 PM

will this be a good deal for $20,500?

johncarlopang 05-01-2013 04:50 PM

2008 350z Nismo #667

cossie1600 05-01-2013 05:43 PM

Not at 66K miles

raymondo510 05-02-2013 05:27 AM

mos definatly a scam, When I was trying to sell my car before I got my Z I got offered something similar, with a guys offering me more than what I was asking, for whatever BS reason and he said he was out of town and would send me a check before hand ad woul send someone over to pick the car up


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