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coltrain 10-01-2012 04:23 PM

2012 vs. 2013 buying Q's
 
I'll soon be in the market for a 370Z. With 2012 Z's becoming a MUST sell for most dealerships...what are your opinions on trying to get a good deal on a 2012 and drive it off the lot, versus buying a 2013 with slightly higher MSRP.

I love the new front bumper redesign on the 2013, but would most owners here just opt for the cheaper 2012? It's essentially the same car in the end correct?

Pappy1 10-01-2012 04:32 PM

2013
 
I bought mine a few weeks ago, Started out looking at a 2012 and ended up with a 2013...when I asked why ...he told me they could work a better deal on the 2013..which was fine with me because I liked the color better...Still don't know the reason behind it...

1st 10-01-2012 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pappy1 (Post 1940267)
I bought mine a few weeks ago, Started out looking at a 2012 and ended up with a 2013...when I asked why ...he told me they could work a better deal on the 2013..which was fine with me because I liked the color better...Still don't know the reason behind it...

See this is odd I thought it was the other way around. I guess it depends on whos willing to work with you.

c41006 10-01-2012 05:02 PM

I would probably go with the 2012 but it depends on what you really want.

NewtoZ's5 10-01-2012 05:05 PM

I picked up my 2012 about 6 weeks ago. I purposely wanted a '12 over a '13 based on looks. A bonus was they were offering 0% financing on 2012's:happydance:

LakeShow 10-01-2012 05:24 PM

Cant go wrong either way. Whatever is a better deal is a better deal. I like the 13' look a bit better but if its not financially sound then forget it.

Mt Tam I am 10-01-2012 05:27 PM

Get a 2012 with everything you want, then haggle as I did. My 2009 in 2010 was $32,900 and fully loaded. That was $7400 off sticker. I have used the NAV twice for real. I did not pay for it so who cares.

stretcho 10-01-2012 05:37 PM

Get exactly what you want.

Magic Bus 10-01-2012 07:41 PM

coltrain, I got the 13 because I could get exactly what I want. The dealers had a couple of 12's but not with the right color or options.

Could I have gotten one of those 12's cheaper? Yes; but would I have been satisfied with my purchase? The answer for me would be no.

Like you, I preferred the front bumper of the 13 and was 50/50 on the rims (I got the spt pkg), but now I prefer the 13 GM colored rims also (plus red clipers are sweet). When you're alongside 09-12's, yours will stand out (in a good way)!

Whether you buy a 12 or 13, you'll be spending a lot of money either way, so get what you want. There has not been a single day since I bought my car where I regretted buying a 13. But I know there would have been regret, if I paid well over $30K for a car I didn't really want just to save a few bucks.

Other than looks, the 13 does have the euro tuned suspension on the sport pkg.

Good luck on your decision.

Telephone 10-01-2012 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by stretcho (Post 1940372)
Get exactly what you want.

:iagree:

6MT 10-01-2012 08:15 PM

Money's never been an issue for me when buying a car. If I want a "new" car, I'll usually order exactly what I want.

JungleZ 10-01-2012 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Magic Bus (Post 1940611)
coltrain, I got the 13 because I could get exactly what I want. The dealers had a couple of 12's but not with the right color or options.

Could I have gotten one of those 12's cheaper? Yes; but would I have been satisfied with my purchase? The answer for me would be no.

Like you, I preferred the front bumper of the 13 and was 50/50 on the rims (I got the spt pkg), but now I prefer the 13 GM colored rims also (plus red clipers are sweet). When you're alongside 09-12's, yours will stand out (in a good way)!
Whether you buy a 12 or 13, you'll be spending a lot of money either way, so get what you want. There has not been a single day since I bought my car where I regretted buying a 13. But I know there would have been regret, if I paid well over $30K for a car I didn't really want just to save a few bucks.

Other than looks, the 13 does have the euro tuned suspension on the sport pkg.

Good luck on your decision.


Sorry but 2013 looks terrible with those wannabe stunna LEDS and giant gaping manta ray mouth.

It stands out in a worse way

6MT 10-01-2012 08:34 PM

:wtf2:

Jasonle 10-01-2012 08:44 PM

I agree with everyone on here... get what you want! I personally like the fangs. But if you like the new 2013s front... get what you like.

w0rM 10-01-2012 08:53 PM

I did opt for the 2012 but I'm not a huge fan of the new bumper. I say if you're really high on the design changes, go for the 2013. If you're just middle of the road, save yourself a few grand and pickup the 2012. You can find some killer deals right now and there's still plenty of stock. If your local dealer doesn't have what you want, see if they're willing to ship something to them. That's what mine did. I found the one I wanted in another city and had my dealer ship it here for me. It only cost me $300 (I paid invoice on the car) and I got exactly what I wanted.

Magic Bus 10-02-2012 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 1940675)
Sorry but 2013 looks terrible with those wannabe stunna LEDS and giant gaping manta ray mouth.

It stands out in a worse way

JungleZ, It's cool with me if you prefer the 12 to the 13 as we're all entitled to our opinions. But can we stay on topic and try to give the OP some constructive advice and not speak negatively of other Z enthusiasts cars? :tiphat:

UNKNOWN_370 10-02-2012 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 1940360)
Get a 2012 with everything you want, then haggle as I did. My 2009 in 2010 was $32,900 and fully loaded. That was $7400 off sticker. I have used the NAV twice for real. I did not pay for it so who cares.

That's the way I was in my G37s. Nav was useless to me. I always know where i'm going. lol Music box was kool, but redundant when you have an ipod or iphone where you can stream. If Tx offered discounts like that on Z's I may have said Fk it and went fully loaded. Here, only G's get discounts and not as deep as when I bought mine. Z's you negotiate from MSRP or slightly over and hope you can negotiate your own discount. Which I was successful.

ImportConvert 10-02-2012 11:57 AM

I wish I had held out for the '13 so I could get the color combo I wanted with the persimmon interior. Also, so I could whine about not holding out for the '14...

ImportConvert 10-02-2012 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1941536)
That's the way I was in my G37s. Nav was useless to me. I always know where i'm going. lol Music box was kool, but redundant when you have an ipod or iphone where you can stream. If Tx offered discounts like that on Z's I may have said Fk it and went fully loaded. Here, only G's get discounts and not as deep as when I bought mine. Z's you negotiate from MSRP or slightly over and hope you can negotiate your own discount. Which I was successful.

I've never used my NAV, but it looks completely pimp sitting there, and I'll own it---this car is about want, not need. Same as my Z06 before it. I wanted what I want and screw anything else. Get it if you want it, don't if you don't. Rationalize it with want not dollars. You forget the money as soon as you're off the lot, anyway.

coltrain 10-02-2012 01:28 PM

If I'm spending ~$35K or more...I might as well just get what I want. Good advice.

I think the only 2009-2012 370Z I'd get would be the 40th anniversary edition. The red leather can't be beat...unless I get a 2013 with Persimmon :p yum...

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Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 1940675)
Sorry but 2013 looks terrible with those wannabe stunna LEDS and giant gaping manta ray mouth.

It stands out in a worse way

How are the LED's wannabe? Nissan wants to be who?

And the bull dog teeth are more attractive?

SurfDog 10-02-2012 02:43 PM

What do they say about opinions being like butt holes?

Nevertheless here is mine.

I like the fangs. The new front end is super sexy, and even reminds me a bit of an Austen Martin (especially in silver), but I like the quirkiness of the fangs. They are a bit oddball and to my mind that makes them kind of "retro cool".

UNKNOWN_370 10-02-2012 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1941718)
I've never used my NAV, but it looks completely pimp sitting there, and I'll own it---this car is about want, not need. Same as my Z06 before it. I wanted what I want and screw anything else. Get it if you want it, don't if you don't. Rationalize it with want not dollars. You forget the money as soon as you're off the lot, anyway.

Kewl :tup: I generally don't buy shyt I don't use though. Even if there is an inherent pimp factor to having it. The extra $7k can be better used in mods or going on vacation or home improvement.

OldGuy 10-02-2012 05:15 PM

I bought my '09 brand new at end of November '09 for $700 under invoice as I figured it. I was fortunate because it was exactly the car I wanted and same car as the 2010's. I used the savings to buy a Katzskins leather interior and ClearBra. I guess it's all in the timing. Just be sure you're thrilled with the car you buy. You don't want to do this over again in a year. You'd really take a financial beating if you did that.

HamZ 10-22-2012 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NewtoZ's5 (Post 1940316)
I picked up my 2012 about 6 weeks ago. I purposely wanted a '12 over a '13 based on looks. A bonus was they were offering 0% financing on 2012's:happydance:

Hmmm.. wonder if there is the 0% financing anywhere near Ohio..

JDMFairlady21 10-23-2012 01:48 PM

i just saw a few leftover '12s at Koeppel nissan... as well as a dark blue and a red '13 370s... check with Joe @ Koeppel nissan and see if he can help you out. i know he's super motivated to get rid of the '12 inventory ;)

omm370z 10-23-2012 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by c41006 (Post 1940312)
I would probably go with the 2012 but it depends on what you really want.

:iagree: but if you going to make mods get 2012 specially if you going to change the bumper etc.

HamZ 10-23-2012 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JDMFairlady21 (Post 1976437)
i just saw a few leftover '12s at Koeppel nissan... as well as a dark blue and a red '13 370s... check with Joe @ Koeppel nissan and see if he can help you out. i know he's super motivated to get rid of the '12 inventory ;)

He's in NY right?

Out of 6 dealerships within 25-50 miles of me, there seems to be only 2 2012s left and both are roadsters..

dang370z 10-23-2012 09:39 PM

I think your idea of this is a bit wrong. I manage to get my 2013 with everything I wanted for invoice. For 2012 you may not get what you want but it can be hassled lower then invoice I think. Also the are quite a few differences from the 12 n 13 so you may want to look over that.

LakeShow 10-23-2012 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by HamZ (Post 1977091)
He's in NY right?

Out of 6 dealerships within 25-50 miles of me, there seems to be only 2 2012s left and both are roadsters..

I believe he has 2 2012 coupes left. Check their inventory or just give him a phone call.

HamZ 10-23-2012 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by LakeShow (Post 1977385)
I believe he has 2 2012 coupes left. Check their inventory or just give him a phone call.

Sent him a PM.. the one coupe I want in Mont Blue is a 2009 Touring auto priced at 29k with 21K miles.. not sure if thats really that good of a deal or not.. gut is telling me its a tad high - but I'm still new at the Z pricing so any help would be great. :ugh2:

LakeShow 10-24-2012 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by HamZ (Post 1977507)
Sent him a PM.. the one coupe I want in Mont Blue is a 2009 Touring auto priced at 29k with 21K miles.. not sure if thats really that good of a deal or not.. gut is telling me its a tad high - but I'm still new at the Z pricing so any help would be great. :ugh2:

Mate, look at the pricing in the 370z For Sale section of the forum. Look at the going rate for perspective miles and years. You may even find a great deal there from someone desperately looking to get rid of it. For 09's I would look closer to 25k. You can even find 2010's for incredible deals also. Check eBay, cars.com, Craigslist. You never know what you'll find plus you'll get a rough idea of what certain years and amount of mileage are worth in respect to the Z.


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