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MikeUCFL 03-03-2012 05:18 PM

2012 Gun Metallic (Touring/Sport/Navigation/Manual)
 
I've been trying to deal with a few dealerships in Florida with no luck. I'm trying to locate a 2012 Gun Metallic 370z, with the touring/sport/navigation packages, and a manual transmission. I was told by a few members that Deland Nissan was a good dealership to speak with. I sent their internet sales manager an email for 500 below invoice, but they said that was not possible and want $40,349.00 (with an invoice of $39,249).

I've emailed a few other dealerships in the area as well with no luck yet, does anyone have any suggestions on other dealerships to try within Florida? Thanks!

pedZ 03-03-2012 05:21 PM

Did you try using truecar.com to get a better price?

MikeUCFL 03-03-2012 05:38 PM

yeah but unfortunately in my area TrueCar reports 39.5 as a great price and 40.8 as market average

MikeUCFL 03-03-2012 06:36 PM

I got another dealership down to 40k, but wouldn't budge lower. I guess I'll just keep trying!

LakeShow 03-05-2012 12:32 AM

Your around invoice. Another 2k-3k off is possible depending on negotiation skills.

MikeUCFL 03-05-2012 07:21 AM

I think my biggest issue is they have to get the car from out of state. Some say 40-41k, and some won't even want to discuss it saying they would have to get it out of state and there's no incentive for them to do so.

I guess my only response is to have them contact me if they can? Not sure what else to say. I guess I have to play the waiting game, and see if they email me back in a week or two.

dpirch531 03-05-2012 08:22 PM

I have everything you want except for Nav and I paid 39,500 OTD. I have a rearview back-up camera as well.

UNKNOWN_370 03-05-2012 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeUCFL (Post 1579967)
I've been trying to deal with a few dealerships in Florida with no luck. I'm trying to locate a 2012 Gun Metallic 370z, with the touring/sport/navigation packages, and a manual transmission. I was told by a few members that Deland Nissan was a good dealership to speak with. I sent their internet sales manager an email for 500 below invoice, but they said that was not possible and want $40,349.00 (with an invoice of $39,249).

I've emailed a few other dealerships in the area as well with no luck yet, does anyone have any suggestions on other dealerships to try within Florida? Thanks!

Its the median price between MSRP and invoice... its a rough time of year for haggling. And car sales are skyrocketing again. In reality, if you are lucky? $500 over invoice or wait another 3months when they are desperate to sell again. You might be able to get huge discounts on a base manual. But sport pkgs n nav pkgs make money this time of year.

The best thing you can do now that I think about it is make 2 dealerships fight for your business... you might end up below invoice.

tonio 03-06-2012 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeUCFL (Post 1581922)
I think my biggest issue is they have to get the car from out of state. Some say 40-41k, and some won't even want to discuss it saying they would have to get it out of state and there's no incentive for them to do so.

I guess my only response is to have them contact me if they can? Not sure what else to say. I guess I have to play the waiting game, and see if they email me back in a week or two.

Yes, thats a big issue. Dealerships like to negotiate on cars that they have on their lot already. If you locate a dealership that has a 370z with everything you want, and you are going to do a trade-in, work with that. Try to get the most out of your trade-in, and then negotiate the price. Something dealerships dont tell you is that when you make a trade-in, whatever that the trade-in is valued, that amount is subtracted to the new vehicle price and you only pay taxes for that amount. So lets say the 370z is 40k - 10k(trade-in) so you only pay $1,950.00 instead of 2,600.00. That's $650.00 that you can knock off from you negotiation easily.

Good luck on your purchase, im looking to sell my Evo X and getting myself a 370z as well with the same options

MikeUCFL 03-06-2012 10:47 PM

So currently as it stands, I'm told invoice is 39,511 and they're willing to do 1000 under (38,511) and that was their best offer. So I went ahead and asked for an estimate on my current car (2009 VW GLI with 49k miles: kbb says 14.7, truecar says 15k) and first was given an estimate of 13.5k. After some back and forth emails, I got my trade in to 14k but I still don't think this is working out in my favor? Their reasoning for not going any higher is because they're not making any money on the Z (2.8% of the invoice is 1106.30, which they said I'm taking 1000 out of), and they have to make their money back on my trade in. But.. then I'm totally thrown off by how some of you got 2-3k under invoice, because that would mean they are losing money? Something here seems wrong, can someone clue me in :P

Also at 38,511 + tax (6.5%) would be somewhere around 41k. From looking at the "what did you pay" I feel really discouraged doing this deal until I remember it's at 0% APR.. which kind of equals it out in a way... right?

scottIN 03-07-2012 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeUCFL (Post 1585347)
So currently as it stands, I'm told invoice is 39,511 and they're willing to do 1000 under (38,511) and that was their best offer. So I went ahead and asked for an estimate on my current car (2009 VW GLI with 49k miles: kbb says 14.7, truecar says 15k) and first was given an estimate of 13.5k. After some back and forth emails, I got my trade in to 14k but I still don't think this is working out in my favor? Their reasoning for not going any higher is because they're not making any money on the Z (2.8% of the invoice is 1106.30, which they said I'm taking 1000 out of), and they have to make their money back on my trade in. But.. then I'm totally thrown off by how some of you got 2-3k under invoice, because that would mean they are losing money? Something here seems wrong, can someone clue me in :P

Also at 38,511 + tax (6.5%) would be somewhere around 41k. From looking at the "what did you pay" I feel really discouraged doing this deal until I remember it's at 0% APR.. which kind of equals it out in a way... right?

Sounds good to me. You're $1000 under invoice, and only $700 off kbb. Not sure where the issue is? They're basically break-even on the sale and will pocket whatever they can get above the $14 on your trade. A dealership has to make money. In fact, you want them to make money so they're there when you need them. Sounds like a more than fair deal for you.

*And FWIW, I don't necessarily believe the '$3000 under invoice' deals people claim to get. I think a lot of times there is something else in the deal we don't know about. Figure a dealer's cost after the holdback is somewhere $800-$1000 under invoice. Maybe a few hundred less if there are some special incentives available from Nissan. It's ridiculous for them to take a loss in the thousands of $$ just to move a car. As a salesman myself, I'd never intentionally take a loss on a sale - no reason to. I can always say no to the deal.

stephsparkles 03-07-2012 05:17 AM

If you work for one of these companies or in the military you can get below invoice via the Nissan Purchase Program (VPP).
Take a look to see if you qualify...
I did - and was able to get my 2012 Nismo :)

Inside Nissan USA | Nissan and Infiniti Vehicle Purchase Program

MikeUCFL 03-07-2012 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by scottIN (Post 1585660)
Sounds good to me. You're $1000 under invoice, and only $700 off kbb. Not sure where the issue is? They're basically break-even on the sale and will pocket whatever they can get above the $14 on your trade. A dealership has to make money. In fact, you want them to make money so they're there when you need them. Sounds like a more than fair deal for you.

*And FWIW, I don't necessarily believe the '$3000 under invoice' deals people claim to get. I think a lot of times there is something else in the deal we don't know about. Figure a dealer's cost after the holdback is somewhere $800-$1000 under invoice. Maybe a few hundred less if there are some special incentives available from Nissan. It's ridiculous for them to take a loss in the thousands of $$ just to move a car. As a salesman myself, I'd never intentionally take a loss on a sale - no reason to. I can always say no to the deal.

Yeah that does make sense, their trade in value could have been lower to compensate. Thanks for the info

Quote:

Originally Posted by stephsparkles (Post 1585665)
If you work for one of these companies or in the military you can get below invoice via the Nissan Purchase Program (VPP).
Take a look to see if you qualify...
I did - and was able to get my 2012 Nismo :)

Inside Nissan USA | Nissan and Infiniti Vehicle Purchase Program

Unfortunately I'm not apart of any company that offers VPP :\ We even get contracts through the DoD! Thanks though


I think I will go with this deal, just waiting for a breakdown of prices to be emailed to me so I can make sure everything lines up with where I have them at. Thanks everyone for the help.

HeRo1 03-07-2012 12:42 PM

Theres a special bonus for over sea active duty military people. My friend got a new 2012 mustang for 19k. I dont know what package he got but if he got the lowest he saved like 4k atleast. I think he said the car was initially 33k and he got it for 19k but i doubt that.

MikeUCFL 03-08-2012 01:43 PM

Welp.. No go. Turns out we were too late in making a deal and the car already is on it's way to their sister company. I asked for a new pricing breakdown with the transfer cost and it turned out to be 1000 below invoice + 600$ to transfer the car + 680$ for a dealer fee (thought this was removed) and then 1.5k below my KBB value. Originally I thought we were discussing zero dealer fee, below invoice, and that was why my trade in was valued where it was. To get it transferred + a dealer fee is 1280 more than I was expecting.

Oh well..

roplusbee 03-08-2012 02:01 PM

Damn. Sorry to hear that. I believe I got the deal I got on my 09 NISMO because I was in Iraq when I was dealing with the salesman. I didn't actually close the deal until the end of March 2010, but I put money down to hold it (I also sent in my finaning info) until I got back to the states. I was on the first thing smoking out to AR to pick it up.

Just be patient.......you will get what you want when the time is right. I almost messed up and sold mine to get an IPL. Man that would have been a heartbreaking mistake!

TheOtherRob 03-08-2012 02:25 PM

You also need to remember your in Florida, alot of these guys are buying cars in winter or right before so they want to move cars up north. Its a little different down here where you dont get snow. It took me 3 months to find my Nismo and I ended up going used to save the money. Most dealerships around me didnt even have 6spd 370z's of any trim level much less a Nismo.

In fact, one dealer said they had 3 people waiting on a Nismo that was coming in. And I actually checked their site and it was gone in about 2 days after arrival. Sounded like you had a great deal, but another will come around sooner or later.

sceptre155 03-08-2012 02:46 PM

Have you looked around for a 2011 by chance? I found one. Bought it a week ago for 4500 lower than MSRP. But I'm up north also.

sceptre155 03-08-2012 03:02 PM

This place has 10 Z's. Not sure what part of FL you're in. But I'd call and see what kinda deal they are willing to do. I wouldn't tell them your from FL. Since that would tell them your desperate :)

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They also had a loaded 2010... I'm sure they are dying to sell... :)

MikeUCFL 03-08-2012 04:46 PM

Yeah I've checked a ton of places. I used cars.com to try and locate the car, and then took almost all the dealerships within 500 miles and sent them an email. I can find quite a few automatic versions of what I want, but in manual? BLAH! I was even told a few other places where the car I want is (all in Georgia) from the dealer I was just working with, but their website says nothing about having those cars. Plus, my car would probably hit 50k miles if I drove it to Georgia, and every dealership wants my car pre 50k miles so they can extend the power train warranty.

I really want to take advantage of that 0%, and of course they probably know that so they can toy with figures a little. I believe there is a GM without navigation nearby, but I've said since day 1 that if I got this car I would want everything :\ I'm talking with two other dealerships right now, one even said they can get the car but any other information I've asked has taken a long time to come back.

MikeUCFL 03-09-2012 04:46 PM

So on my way to work today, I saw a black 370z drive past me. I've always driven black cars, and this time I was telling myself I should go for a different color, hence the gun metallic. But, just out of my curiousity I spoke with the dealership again asking if they knew about any available magnetic blacks... and what do you know, an available black 370z with all my options was about to be shipped from japan. I got my original deal with him, and set the car to be routed to his dealership. In two weeks I'm gonna get a nice present

:happydance:


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