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StreetSpeed 06-17-2009 06:31 AM

Well, it's cool that it's $39,000. Not cool that it's a "track car" that will only do a couple laps before it over heats on its home turf. The idea of throwing down $780 for an oil cooler right out of the box is ridiculous. I'll pop in here from time to time and see what the status is on a factory oil cooler at some point.

semtex 06-17-2009 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Tenorino (Post 92708)
Oh, and do you really think all the buyers of the Nismo will fork over $40k for a car they will only pull out to take to the track?? Dude, you're on drugs.

You're striking at a straw man. Gnarf never stated that people buy Nismo Z's for exclusive use on the track only. All he said was that many buyers will track their cars. In other words, many people will buy these cars primarily for street use, even as their daily drivers, but also track them occasionally on weekends, etc. So you've accused him of being on drugs over something he didn't even say. You've put words into his mouth in order to knock them down and pump yourself up. Nice one. Maybe you're the one on drugs. On the other hand, maybe you just lack basic reading comprehension skills.

:thumbsdown:

NIZMOZ 06-17-2009 09:14 AM

I bought mine to be a track car and a daily driver. It does very well in both instances.

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Originally Posted by 370Z Purist (Post 92950)
:wtf2:Are you seriously going to start flaming on a 370Z forum when you're driving an overglorified convertible? :shakes head:

The NISMO is meant to be a high performance street car; yet it can be easily tracked... just an oil cooler, maybe a better diff (lol VLSDs suck for any kind of driving, better get that clutch type!).

Plus that majority are the people that really just don't "enjoy" cars. You can never feel the true potential of a car by street racing, which is horrible and irresponsible in the first place, regardless of your driving skill or how empty the road is.

Also remember that Ferrari's, Porsche's, those European sports cars are made for luxury speed; remember the driving rules in Europe are much different; they can go pretty damn fast all over the place too. When you take a stock Ferrari, more than likely it's not a capable track car at all; all that weight added on from the luxury, etc. Think the standard F430 compared to the F430 Scuderia. Huge difference.

That being said, the NISMO is not truly a pure track car, but it can handle the track a lot better than any stock 370Z could, regardless of trim or options. If I had bought a NISMO 350Z (in Red, at the Evanston Autobarn Nissan in Chicago, 30,500?), I'd likely drive that thing on the street a vast majority of the time. Yet since I know it's a NISMO, it's fully capable of a good track run. So I'd probably take it out once in a while.

And hell, you don't know the income of the forum members? Some people here have just too many cars in my opinion... and as far as I'm concerned, they could be crashing them into brick walls for fun. (but that's only because I'm jealous <AHEMfrostAHEM>)


370z4Steve 06-17-2009 09:20 AM

maybe its better to save your money and just get the non nismo version ..odd results

click here nismo 370 vs touring 370

semtex 06-17-2009 10:50 AM

Hmm...interesting results they got. Thx for posting that! +rep

370Z Purist 06-17-2009 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 370z4Steve (Post 93083)
maybe its better to save your money and just get the non nismo version ..odd results

click here nismo 370 vs touring 370

So can anyone tell me what this means for the people who would buy NISMO for performance? It sounds to me like the car just turns into a massage bed because of the stiffness... but it just looks like those extra 18 horses went out to pasture.

sensi09 06-17-2009 01:37 PM

Yes interesting results. The stiffer suspension will likely do better on the track, but the softer suspension on a regular Z will absorb bumps and road irregularities.

I'm quite pleased with the price. If one is likely to mod their car much, the Nismo is a great package from the factory.

RDGR12 06-17-2009 01:41 PM

Nissan is putting this NISMO Z on the market to attract race track enthusiasts (and the like) and yet they still haven't put on an oil cooler. Don't they read magazine reviews on their products?

Nonetheless, this model will sell and won't be covered under warranty because it was driven on the track - hence, it was abused.

gnarf 06-17-2009 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenorino (Post 92708)
Gnarf: Another victim of great marketing. I don't know what they drive in Jersey but the brokers and doctors who drive the GT3's around in LA I doubt ever see the track. Oh, and do you really think all the buyers of the Nismo will fork over $40k for a car they will only pull out to take to the track?? Dude, you're on drugs. The majority of people buy Ferraris and Porsche to be seen in them on Freeways and race stoplight to stoplight, not to abuse in front of a few gearheads on a track.

Tenorino: I dont understand why you came in here putting down the 370z..mybe cuz it outperforms your discontinued M roadster..I dont know..but like many others who have supported me in this thread..unlike Ferrari and Porsche drivers in LA..Nissan drivers don't have to worry about expensive repairs and other consequences like Ferrari drivers do..if you check NAGTROC they have had WEST COAST and EAST COAST track meets with a lot of attendees for the GT-R..I assume we will do that here...If i were a victim of great marketing...you are a victim of engineering...just watching the video alone shows how capable this car is...a less than 40k car that is just as capable as a 60k Cayman S or a TT-RS..that to me is engineering...not fake add-ons that are just a scheme of marketing...if you do not like this car...go to 6speedonline and bash it there...but this is a 370z community...and you are gonna get roasted like Pamela Anderson...
wanna take a look at your previous 5 posts?
1.
Why no color Yellow for the Nismo or Roadster?
2.
Uh, all rear spoilers/wings are basically 'stick-ons' unless you want that fat rear to be even bigger than it is.
3.
Why do people make these ridiculous comparisons and statements? You mean if you basically can't afford a brand new Nismo then your dream car is really very used Porsche that will probably be more...
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You want to buy it and pay much more because of the body kit?? The other 'exclusive stuff' as you call it, or the suspension upgrades is what makes it better than the regular Z and why the price is...
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Doesn't anyone get it? It's a CAR for the STREETS not for the track! That's all just marketing! How many of these do you think will even see a track?? They throw a body kit on it and make some...

your opinions do matter in this forum...but almost all of your posts have a negative tone towards the 370z...if you dont like the car...:gtfo2:
if you want to make a serious argument..use factual evidence instead of stereotypical LA driver observations...let's keep the personal name calling to the 11-13 year olds...

edit: to sum it up...remember when i said that there are GT3s on the street yet many still do track the cars...itll be a similar instance to the Nismo...In my area..I see very high end cars..I've seen Veyrons, Scuderias, LP640s, ZR-1s, GT-Rs...yet I have only seen 1 Nismo 350z..is it because they dont sell...or maybe the drivers use it as a track car..who knows...nevertheless on the nismo 370z adding an oil cooler is $780..and a nice LSD is around $1500..a small price to pay for a 40k car...I was putting down your comment of "It's a CAR for the STREETS not for the track!" ... just cuz it isnt true..thanks and have fun at 6speedonline...

K20A2_S 06-17-2009 03:12 PM

Wonder what Invoice will be for it? and if any dealer would order one @ invoice or close to invoice for a no hassle sale of the car or if they're told MSRP and no less??

That's the only way I'd consider picking one up.

INSURANCE101 06-17-2009 03:26 PM

lol i like that GTFO icon hahahahahahah.

i still think that a touring with sport package is a better deal than the nismo, i don't know, i think its because the regular 370 is such a great car from factory, that nobodys gonna have any trouble rippin it on the track. Unless your at a higher level of driving and you wanna play michael schumacher for real (which theres nothing wrong with that).

cossie1600 06-17-2009 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by StreetSpeed (Post 92984)
Well, it's cool that it's $39,000. Not cool that it's a "track car" that will only do a couple laps before it over heats on its home turf. The idea of throwing down $780 for an oil cooler right out of the box is ridiculous. I'll pop in here from time to time and see what the status is on a factory oil cooler at some point.

I hope you know almost all stock cars are not going to be able to run 5 laps at maximum speed. You will overheat your brakes and tires before the engine.

StreetSpeed 06-18-2009 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 93488)
I hope you know almost all stock cars are not going to be able to run 5 laps at maximum speed. You will overheat your brakes and tires before the engine.

Uhhhh, I'm not talking about wear items like brakes and tires, I'm talking about important things like an engine. My GTI has 63,000 miles on it, 20+ track days, maxed out stock turbo, and the temp gauge has never risen above 190 on the hottest, humidest of August days after a 40 minute session at Watkins Glen. Simply stated, I would expect a Nissan track car to hold up a better than my "grocery getter" GTI. Further more, I've seen plenty of bone stock cars at the track run balls to the wall for 2 days with absolutely no issues, including some wacko in a Prius. You sir, have no idea what you're talking about. But, this is the internet, so...

StreetSpeed 06-18-2009 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 370z4Steve (Post 93083)
maybe its better to save your money and just get the non nismo version ..odd results

click here nismo 370 vs touring 370

I wish they had actual road course numbers, but that is an interesting read. Thanks.

MightyBobo 06-18-2009 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tenorino (Post 92708)
Gnarf: Another victim of great marketing. I don't know what they drive in Jersey but the brokers and doctors who drive the GT3's around in LA I doubt ever see the track. Oh, and do you really think all the buyers of the Nismo will fork over $40k for a car they will only pull out to take to the track?? Dude, you're on drugs. The majority of people buy Ferraris and Porsche to be seen in them on Freeways and race stoplight to stoplight, not to abuse in front of a few gearheads on a track.

Well duh, it IS the West Coast. Hard parkers everywhere.

cossie1600 06-18-2009 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by StreetSpeed (Post 93776)
Uhhhh, I'm not talking about wear items like brakes and tires, I'm talking about important things like an engine. My GTI has 63,000 miles on it, 20+ track days, maxed out stock turbo, and the temp gauge has never risen above 190 on the hottest, humidest of August days after a 40 minute session at Watkins Glen. Simply stated, I would expect a Nissan track car to hold up a better than my "grocery getter" GTI. Further more, I've seen plenty of bone stock cars at the track run balls to the wall for 2 days with absolutely no issues, including some wacko in a Prius. You sir, have no idea what you're talking about. But, this is the internet, so...


I don't? I have more track days in the Z alone than you do in the GTI, and I am not even including days from other cars. I think it had 47K when I traded it in. As speed goes up, wear and tear item goes up also. It's just the law of physics.

I don't think people are overheating their cars, they are overheating their oil (well some I think are just people panicing). Big difference there. Lastly, a stock car would not be able to handle 20 days without changing pads and brake fluids, it simply doesn't happen. Heck, even 20 minutes at max speed is pushing it, especially on a car with around 300HP.

I think the water temp gauge on most new cars are dummy gauges, you are going to read 190 unless you absolutely overheat it.

StreetSpeed 06-18-2009 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 94031)
I hope you know almost all stock cars are not going to be able to run 5 laps at maximum speed. You will overheat your brakes and tires before the engine.

This is not a statement by a person who has spent any time on the track. Unless of course all you do is wheel to wheel racing in some high end spec series, and have forgotten what most people refer to as "track days." A large majority of people at the track are newbies, there for their first time, and they haul *** all day long without issue. Of course I roll with an Audi club, so our cars are perhaps predisposed to being hustled around in haste. To say a stock car won't last 5 laps without issue is just ignorant. But I'm sure you are a track god none the less. See ya at LimeRock.

cossie1600 06-18-2009 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by StreetSpeed (Post 94154)
This is not a statement by a person who has spent any time on the track. Unless of course all you do is wheel to wheel racing in some high end spec series, and have forgotten what most people refer to as "track days." A large majority of people at the track are newbies, there for their first time, and they haul *** all day long without issue. Of course I roll with an Audi club, so our cars are perhaps predisposed to being hustled around in haste. To say a stock car won't last 5 laps without issue is just ignorant. But I'm sure you are a track god none the less. See ya at LimeRock.

Most "newbies" you talk about don't run their cars hard enough to even break a sweat. Does it surprise you that they can run all day when they run the car at 70% of its capability? Try driving the car at 95% and up and see how long a stock car can last before your brakes and tires start to overheat. I am not saying the enginewill fail, I am simply saying that the car will become so much slower that you are better off running two cool down laps before you go hard again. Track god, nah. Track junkie, yes.

fuct 06-20-2009 09:49 AM

sooooo, back to the pricing on this thing.......

370Z Purist 06-20-2009 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by fuct (Post 95376)
sooooo, back to the pricing on this thing.......

It's confirmed at an MSRP of around 39,900 dollars.

Greg 06-21-2009 11:11 AM

Pretty much the expected price. Cool :)

juan05 06-21-2009 10:02 PM

ok so its 39k thats not bad..you can probably drop the price down..anyone know the invoice price?

Zvengeance 06-21-2009 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by juan05 (Post 96664)
ok so its 39k thats not bad..you can probably drop the price down..anyone know the invoice price?

i contacted a nearby dealer and he quoted me at 42,566 price. this is not set in stone but is around the ball park that most dealers will ask.

also he said the state of florida does not look like will be getting any until september or october. he actually checked the port of miami nissan delivery for the next 3 months. he also checked the nissan inventory in USA and there were no nismo available. this was the week when nissan announced the release date and price.

not sure if he was bs or what but sounds like is an accurate statement.

juan05 06-21-2009 10:24 PM

:shakes head:
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Originally Posted by Zvengeance (Post 96675)
i contacted a nearby dealer and he quoted me at 42,566 price. this is not set in stone but is around the ball park that most dealers will ask.

also he said the state of florida does not look like will be getting any until september or october. he actually checked the port of miami nissan delivery for the next 3 months. he also checked the nissan inventory in USA and there were no nismo available. this was the week when nissan announced the release date and price.

not sure if he was bs or what but sounds like is an accurate statement.

42k!!!! what! how come? i think is bs. maybe he is tryng to get you to buy a 370 sport or touring. so they get them of the lot to make room for the nismo. i dont know i think is bs we have to wait and see. im not getting my z till late july or august. so yea i have some waiting to do

Zvengeance 06-21-2009 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by juan05 (Post 96679)
:shakes head:

42k!!!! what! how come? i think is bs. maybe he is tryng to get you to buy a 370 sport or touring. so they get them of the lot to make room for the nismo. i dont know i think is bs we have to wait and see. im not getting my z till late july or august. so yea i have some waiting to do

but if you think about it...the msrp that nissan gave out was 39,###...so to the dealership is not crazy to be asking 42k but for us it is lol.

very curious what price they are going to give to the person in this thread that has one already in pre order.

Forever_z 06-22-2009 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Zvengeance (Post 96675)
he actually checked the port of miami nissan delivery for the next 3 months. he also checked the nissan inventory in USA and there were no nismo available. this was the week when nissan announced the release date and price.

not sure if he was bs or what but sounds like is an accurate statement.


Nissan vehicles come through the port of Jacksonville.

juan05 06-22-2009 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Zvengeance (Post 96683)
but if you think about it...the msrp that nissan gave out was 39,###...so to the dealership is not crazy to be asking 42k but for us it is lol.

very curious what price they are going to give to the person in this thread that has one already in pre order.

ok but wait. how can the dealerships bump the price up so much? dealer fees? shipping fees? :ugh2:

semtex 06-22-2009 09:21 AM

Dealers routinely mark up the prices on cars they think will fetch a premium due to demand being higher than supply.

juan05 06-24-2009 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 96886)
Dealers routinely mark up the prices on cars they think will fetch a premium due to demand being higher than supply.

yea but you do have to wonder in this economy they are taking a big chance doing that. im getting my z in late july or august so hopefully the demand is not high so they lower prices.

semtex 06-24-2009 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by juan05 (Post 98326)
yea but you do have to wonder in this economy they are taking a big chance doing that.

One word: "Greed."

MightyBobo 06-24-2009 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 98333)
One word: "Greed."

Don't forget, some people are dumb enough to believe that MSRP is as low as it'll go.

juan05 06-24-2009 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semtex (Post 98333)
One word: "Greed."

:iagree: A LOT of it!!:shakes head:

FuszNissan 06-24-2009 09:35 AM

Order #: DB80793
DEALER FIRM , SUPL

Current Configuration
56569
2009 NISMO 370Z} COUPE 6-SPD

K23-G
BRILLIANT SILVE, BLACK


Invoice / MSRP
BASE $36,551 / $39,130

TMA $65 / $95
CARPETED /TRUNK MA

50S $0 / $0
50 STATE EMISSION

Freight Charge $720 / $720


Total $37,336 / $39,945


Vehicle Information
Order #: DB80793 VIN: JN1AZ44E69M407904
Ordered On: 05/11/2009 Production Month: 05/2009
Rail Ship Date: 06/18/2009 Shipping VPC: 75
Rail Receive Date: Status: NNA
Wholesale Date:
ETA: 07/10/09
RDR Date:
Dealer: 24-988
LOU FUSZ MOTOR COMPANY
LOU FUSZ Dealer Details: 314-997-3400
925 N LINDBERGH BLVD
SAINT LOUIS MO 63141

Zvengeance 06-24-2009 02:14 PM

So is 39945 the final price that you will be paying before tax?

FuszNissan 06-24-2009 05:22 PM

That is MSRP. I am a dealer, this is a car coming into invetory,( I was just showing an offical price), but yes that is what you would be paying before tax,title,license and dealer fees. Invoice is $37,336.00

theDreamer 06-24-2009 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 98665)
That is MSRP. I am a dealer, this is a car coming into invetory,( I was just showing an offical price), but yes that is what you would be paying before tax,title,license and dealer fees. Invoice is $37,336.00

So I must ask, coming from a current 370z owner, will you try to sale that car at MSRP first or just offer up invoice?

FuszNissan 06-24-2009 05:55 PM

Invoice

Zvengeance 06-24-2009 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 98680)
Invoice

very interesting. so you are saying you will put the car for sale at $37,336? if so do you deliver? dealerships around here will charge an eye for this car. you actually sound like the most realistic price for the car.

juan05 06-25-2009 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Zvengeance (Post 98715)
very interesting. so you are saying you will put the car for sale at $37,336? if so do you deliver? dealerships around here will charge an eye for this car. you actually sound like the most realistic price for the car.

:iagree: what state is your dealership?

FuszNissan 06-26-2009 01:54 AM

I don't want to break fourm rules, but if you are intrested please PM


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