I don't? I have more track days in the Z alone than you do in the GTI, and I am not even including days from other cars. I think it had 47K when I traded it in. As speed goes up, wear and tear item goes up also. It's just the law of physics.

I don't think people are overheating their cars, they are overheating their oil (well some I think are just people panicing). Big difference there. Lastly, a stock car would not be able to handle 20 days without changing pads and brake fluids, it simply doesn't happen. Heck, even 20 minutes at max speed is pushing it, especially on a car with around 300HP.

I think the water temp gauge on most new cars are dummy gauges, you are going to read 190 unless you absolutely overheat it.

This is not a statement by a person who has spent any time on the track. Unless of course all you do is wheel to wheel racing in some high end spec series, and have forgotten what most people refer to as "track days." A large majority of people at the track are newbies, there for their first time, and they haul *** all day long without issue. Of course I roll with an Audi club, so our cars are perhaps predisposed to being hustled around in haste. To say a stock car won't last 5 laps without issue is just ignorant. But I'm sure you are a track god none the less. See ya at LimeRock.

Most "newbies" you talk about don't run their cars hard enough to even break a sweat. Does it surprise you that they can run all day when they run the car at 70% of its capability? Try driving the car at 95% and up and see how long a stock car can last before your brakes and tires start to overheat. I am not saying the enginewill fail, I am simply saying that the car will become so much slower that you are better off running two cool down laps before you go hard again. Track god, nah. Track junkie, yes.

sooooo, back to the pricing on this thing.......

It's confirmed at an MSRP of around 39,900 dollars.

Pretty much the expected price. Cool :)

ok so its 39k thats not bad..you can probably drop the price down..anyone know the invoice price?

i contacted a nearby dealer and he quoted me at 42,566 price. this is not set in stone but is around the ball park that most dealers will ask.

also he said the state of florida does not look like will be getting any until september or october. he actually checked the port of miami nissan delivery for the next 3 months. he also checked the nissan inventory in USA and there were no nismo available. this was the week when nissan announced the release date and price.

not sure if he was bs or what but sounds like is an accurate statement.

:shakes head:42k!!!! what! how come? i think is bs. maybe he is tryng to get you to buy a 370 sport or touring. so they get them of the lot to make room for the nismo. i dont know i think is bs we have to wait and see. im not getting my z till late july or august. so yea i have some waiting to do

but if you think about it...the msrp that nissan gave out was 39,###...so to the dealership is not crazy to be asking 42k but for us it is lol.

very curious what price they are going to give to the person in this thread that has one already in pre order.

Nissan vehicles come through the port of Jacksonville.

:ok but wait. how can the dealerships bump the price up so much? dealer fees? shipping fees? :ugh2:

Dealers routinely mark up the prices on cars they think will fetch a premium due to demand being higher than supply.

yea but you do have to wonder in this economy they are taking a big chance doing that. im getting my z in late july or august so hopefully the demand is not high so they lower prices.

One word: "Greed."