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Havsie 10-09-2010 09:42 PM

What's up with the prices on untitled, <20 mile, 2009 370z's?
 
Anyways lurker here who's tired of dealing with ball joints blowing out out on my G8 GT and tired of back seat that I haven't used once since I don't have any friends...so I decided to look into switching into something else.

In my search for finding a good deal I came across 3 different dealerships within ~30 miles of my house and they all have 2009 370z's on their lots...all of them in different options and whatnot and after asking them for a quote they all wouldn't dip below MSRP on them claiming "it's a limited production and rare vehicle" :wtf2: I don't get their reasoning behind that especially when they are fully stocked with 2010 Z's in both coupe and roadster variants...why wouldn't they let a leftover 2009 Z that's been on the lot for over a year for below MSRP? I'd prefer not to go up in car payments compared to my G8 so I thought looking at untitled last year vehicles would be a good start but apparently a 2009 370z with touring/sport in 6spd is 39000 dollars...the same as a equally equipped 2010 model.

Anyone else here who bought a last model Z this year experience something similar? I even practiced my haggling skills on that adorable capitalism game on Steam for weeks yet I still haven't gotten them to go below MSRP...is that a common occurrence with these vehicles or something? I know when I got my G8 GT last year they took 5000 off MSRP through GM bonus cash and another 3000 in "buy this car plz" cash.

KaienZ34 10-09-2010 10:03 PM

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http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-p...er-thread.html

PapoZalsa 10-09-2010 10:08 PM

I saw a 2009 370Z in SPECIAL Brand New (leftover) Base w/sport Pkg for like $36K. I laughed my azz out!!!! :roflpuke2: :roflpuke2:

What are they smoking?

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 758966)

You can also check with your local bank, FCU, USAA has a great program and your local tax office.

The best thing is to great pre-approved credit and sell your car to a private party.

Havsie 10-09-2010 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 758966)

Thanks, in my lurking I looked over those...I worked with a few dealers last year on my G8 and got an excellent deal on mine. I just don't get how so many people can get good deals on these vehicles when asking multiple dealers with numerous Z's on their lots they seemingly wont stray anywhere from MSRP.

I looked at the deal thread and it seems that everyone who's doing deals is out of state and I don't know anything about an out of state car buying experience..on top of where to take it for routine maintenance and whatnot. I certainly don't want to drive 100 miles to get my oil changed or to get my cabin filter replaced.

Red__Zed 10-09-2010 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Havsie (Post 758977)
Thanks, in my lurking I looked over those...I worked with a few dealers last year on my G8 and got an excellent deal on mine. I just don't get how so many people can get good deals on these vehicles when asking multiple dealers with numerous Z's on their lots they seemingly wont stray anywhere from MSRP.

I looked at the deal thread and it seems that everyone who's doing deals is out of state and I don't know anything about an out of state car buying experience..on top of where to take it for routine maintenance and whatnot. I certainly don't want to drive 100 miles to get my oil changed or to get my cabin filter replaced.

just take it to a local dealer.

There's tons of deals in VA. You can snag a base 09 for 25k before TT&F's all day.

Havsie 10-09-2010 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DanGizinski (Post 758979)
just take it to a local dealer.

There's tons of deals in VA. You can snag a base 09 for 25k before TT&F's all day.

That's about what I paid for my G8 and that would be excellent since that's about what my G8 is worth.

The only issue would be getting a buddy who drives stick to help me out of my 500 mile commute home. After only driving stick a few times and only owning automatic v6's or v8's I'm probably gonna make a fool out of myself driving it home and would rather not take a 500 mile trip of stalling and shifting into the wrong gear

zman1910 10-09-2010 10:48 PM

I'm having a hard time believing this.....Almost every dealer I know around here will at least give you 3k off without any haggle...lol

Havsie 10-09-2010 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by zman1910 (Post 758998)
I'm having a hard time believing this.....Almost every dealer I know around here will at least give you 3k off without any haggle...lol

Where in NY are you?

I'm right on the south/central shore and our lousy dealers aren't budging...maybe I'll have to look up north to get a deal.

wilsonp 10-09-2010 11:35 PM

You could always get a 7AT?

Havsie 10-10-2010 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by wilsonp (Post 759033)
You could always get a 7AT?

Maybe if they had a DCT option..but with a ~50 hp and over 100ft/lbs of torque drop I can't see it being as entertaining to drive...I guess I'll just learn how to properly drive stick.

4r3s 10-10-2010 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Havsie (Post 759059)
Maybe if they had a DCT option..but with a ~50 hp and over 100ft/lbs of torque drop I can't see it being as entertaining to drive...I guess I'll just learn how to properly drive stick.

where on earth did you come up with thos hp and torque losses? The AT has been proven to be quicker than the manual. :icon14:

billydsz 10-10-2010 06:53 AM

I ran into the same thing. Some of the discounts some have claimed here on this site are pretty incredible. Every dealer I've ever talked to in person laughs when you ask for any kind of large discount on an unused Z. But there are plenty who claim fantastic deals over the internet. It's an interesting paradox.

ProfessorDave 10-10-2010 07:18 AM

Get on the Internet, find a deal and take it to you local dealer. Ask them to match it. If not, travel for the car you want. It will be worth it, trust me! I went close to 200 miles for mine (used 09 touring with 4k miles on it) to a dealership that was motivated to sell.

As posted earlier, you'll be taking the Z to your local dealer for service. Just don't expect smiles or a loaner!

Havsie 10-10-2010 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 4r3s (Post 759188)
where on earth did you come up with thos hp and torque losses? The AT has been proven to be quicker than the manual. :icon14:

Sorry I wasn't clear about that...I was talking about my G8 GT which makes significantly more power than the Z
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Originally Posted by ProfessorDave (Post 759194)
Get on the Internet, find a deal and take it to you local dealer. Ask them to match it. If not, travel for the car you want. It will be worth it, trust me! I went close to 200 miles for mine (used 09 touring with 4k miles on it) to a dealership that was motivated to sell.

As posted earlier, you'll be taking the Z to your local dealer for service. Just don't expect smiles or a loaner!

I don't think they can be any worse than a GM dealership. If you like plastic lawn chair waiting rooms and service techs asking if your car that was sold there a few months prior is FWD or RWD is pretty sad.

They do give out Chevy HHR's as loaners though but after driving one I'd rather get a bicycle or walk. :roflpuke2:

Modshack 10-10-2010 06:45 PM

You can buy Z's all day long at ivoice. As to your G8, I suspect it isn't worth much....Pontiac being out of business and all. They obviously bribed you with $$ to buy it. Don' expect it to be worth what you paid..

Havsie 10-10-2010 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 759555)
You can buy Z's all day long at ivoice. As to your G8, I suspect it isn't worth much....Pontiac being out of business and all. They obviously bribed you with $$ to buy it. Don' expect it to be worth what you paid..

KBB and similarly equipped cars at dealerships say otherwise. They're going for about 30k at dealerships and the KBB claims a trade in of around 27k on them...slightly more than what I paid for it last year. There were only 30k imported to this country and being a limited production vehicle from Australia with an LS engine they hold a decent premium.

As for Z's...I don't see anyone near me doing that. I don't plan on driving hundreds or thousands of miles to get a deal on one...I'm just irritated that a dealership wouldn't be taking thousands off the price of an untitled new 2009 model vehicle when 2011's will be in showrooms any day now.

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ClemsonWill 10-11-2010 10:08 AM

I don't know what the dealerships in your area are smoking. I bought my Z about 3 months ago. Both local dealerships had 09s left on the lot. One was a PW touring/sport w/ nav 6mt and the other was a Blue Touring 7at. They started negotiation at $33k ($41K msrp) for the PW and $32K ($36K msrp) for the Blue one. I'm sure I could have gotten them down some more but I didn't want either color. Nissan had special incentives on the 09s. I can't imagine they have taken them off. The 2011s are coming out this month. Keep looking. Your local dealerships have spent too much time with the nose powder.

Havsie 10-11-2010 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ClemsonWill (Post 760178)
I don't know what the dealerships in your area are smoking. I bought my Z about 3 months ago. Both local dealerships had 09s left on the lot. One was a PW touring/sport w/ nav 6mt and the other was a Blue Touring 7at. They started negotiation at $33k ($41K msrp) for the PW and $32K ($36K msrp) for the Blue one. I'm sure I could have gotten them down some more but I didn't want either color. Nissan had special incentives on the 09s. I can't imagine they have taken them off. The 2011s are coming out this month. Keep looking. Your local dealerships have spent too much time with the nose powder.

I'll try them again when the 2011's are on the lot and claim that they're attempting to sell a 2 year old car for MSRP :roflpuke2:

I was expecting to see a huge price drop on these vehicles since they're obviously unwanted but I guess they're trying not to lose any money on them..2 years after they arrived on the showroom floor.

kree 10-11-2010 06:27 PM

I bought a touring/sport/auto for 31k about a month ago and it was sticker of 39,8xx. What I did was look up on nissanusa.com where the 09's were near me and then email the dealer about the one I was interested in. You might have to go to the dealerships website to find an email they respond to though b/c the email I sent through nissanusa.com's website didn't get a response. Basically the email I sent was saying the 11's were coming out soon and if they were interesting in getting rid of their 09 stock, I would be interested if the price was right. Then I got a call and when I got there bargained them down a bit. I would say the best place to start would be emailing dealerships and just see how serious they are in getting rid of their 2 year old stock.

SMcK23 10-11-2010 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Havsie (Post 760408)
I'll try them again when the 2011's are on the lot and claim that they're attempting to sell a 2 year old car for MSRP :roflpuke2:

I was expecting to see a huge price drop on these vehicles since they're obviously unwanted but I guess they're trying not to lose any money on them..2 years after they arrived on the showroom floor.

I just got the 40th Anniversary 370z for $33,500....sticker of almost $41k and that is a 2010!

IB 350Z 10-11-2010 11:50 PM

Wow. Awesome deal on the 40th. Beautiful car.....I'm just an auto plus nav guy.

ClemsonWill 10-12-2010 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SMcK23 (Post 761142)
I just got the 40th Anniversary 370z for $33,500....sticker of almost $41k and that is a 2010!

That's a great deal! That's the cheapest I have heard a new 40th sell for.

Havsie 10-13-2010 05:58 PM

lol, just talked asked about lowering the price on a 2009 in another dealership while mentioning the pricing Koeppel is giving out.
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I think things will change once you walk into that dealership, I hope it doesnt... although, if anything does change please let me know. I don't play games with anyone, we do business one way and that is the right way. We are the largest Nissan Dealership on the East Coast by volume for a reason and its not because we are the most expensive... Thank you very much for your time.
I wonder how much nonsense one would have to go through to buy a car out of state cause this is ridiculous...how anyone would ask MSRP on a 2009 vehicle when 2011's are coming out within a few weeks and their lots are saturated with over a dozen Z's is beyond me..but hey, if that's how they want to do it..I just wont bother going there.


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