just wanted to share with you guys what Surf City Nissan told me:

my reply:

You are going to find the dealers that are willing to cut prices rather quickly. Just keep searching. Sometimes it helps to even make up offers. I did that with the dealership I went to. All the dealerships stuck to their price until I finally called one and said blah blah blah I am having it shipped for 39.5 but if you can match that I will go through you so I dont have to wait the couple weeks for it to get here and they said sure come on in and matched it. Play hardball but be reasonable is my only advice.

yah he came back saying "the invoice is 37000, what do you think is fair"

havent replied, i wanna drag it. i also want to negotiate the money factor, once that's all done i want to say i want to order lol

i want somewhere between 500 and 1000 under invoice and MF not exceeding 0.00175. that's my goal. we'll see lol