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6spd 10-21-2010 07:39 PM
Hi-Res Pearl White Shots
 
Enjoy the wallpaper size, not for slow connections though.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f.../SunriseZ3.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f.../SunriseZ2.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...r/SunriseZ.jpg

memorylasts 10-21-2010 07:43 PM
Great shots! I like the sunset setting in on the photo. Good job! Im at school right now with a crappy monitor, and it really not helping me. hah. Wish I had my computer with me!

6spd 10-21-2010 07:59 PM
sunrise actually! red sky in the morning, sailors warning, or as I like to say, red sky in the morning, photographers invitation!

KaienZ34 10-21-2010 08:32 PM
Great shots !! "Red at night sailors delight, red in the morning sailors warning"

NXTAZEE 10-21-2010 08:44 PM
What camera settings were used to take these shots?

Waiz 10-21-2010 08:52 PM
Nice shots!!

vividracing 10-21-2010 09:19 PM
wow beautiful photos! great job! Z is looking great!

c41006 10-21-2010 09:35 PM
Looks fantastic!

Xan 10-21-2010 09:40 PM
Nice pictures! However you might wanna dial down the compression, there is a lot of noise in the pictures...


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Originally Posted by NXTAZEE (Post 776120)
What camera settings were used to take these shots?
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6spd 10-21-2010 09:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NXTAZEE (Post 776120)
What camera settings were used to take these shots?
Canon T2i
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Originally Posted by Xan (Post 776210)
Nice pictures! However you might wanna dial down the compression, there is a lot of noise in the pictures...
Yeah, I made the mistake of not setting the camera to RAW and photobucket ruins quality too, double whammy:mad: plus the aperture mode set the iso too high.

Xan 10-21-2010 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 776222)
Canon T2i

Yeah, I made the mistake of not setting the camera to RAW and photobucket ruins quality too, double whammy:mad: plus the aperture mode set the iso too high.
Just saw that, 1600... ouch... :)

6spd 10-21-2010 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Xan (Post 776223)
Just saw that, 1600... ouch... :)
live and learn, its manual from here on out:tup:

Xan 10-21-2010 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 776231)
live and learn, its manual from here on out:tup:
Yep and they are still great pics!

chuckd05 10-21-2010 10:24 PM
I need that camera... which one do you have, the newest one or last years model ?

great pictures !

6spd 10-21-2010 10:25 PM
i just bought it a couple months ago, so the new one i assume.

NXTAZEE 10-21-2010 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 776222)
Canon T2i

Yeah, I made the mistake of not setting the camera to RAW and photobucket ruins quality too, double whammy:mad: plus the aperture mode set the iso too high.
Raw isn't really needed to take good photos, but is better in certain applications. Thats odd that your aperture mode selects the iso?? Never heard of that. Shoot as low as possible with the iso for best results. With the right settings those photos would be awesome. Nice job on that.

6spd 10-21-2010 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by NXTAZEE (Post 776310)
Raw isn't really needed to take good photos, but is better in certain applications. Thats odd that your aperture mode selects the iso?? Never heard of that. Shoot as low as possible with the iso for best results. With the right settings those photos would be awesome. Nice job on that.
it had the iso setting on auto, and i couldnt make the color adjustments any smoother because they were shot in jpeg and saved a couple times.

Dark_Sub_Rosa 10-21-2010 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by NXTAZEE (Post 776310)
Raw isn't really needed to take good photos, but is better in certain applications. Thats odd that your aperture mode selects the iso?? Never heard of that. Shoot as low as possible with the iso for best results. With the right settings those photos would be awesome. Nice job on that.
I have to slightly disagree, shooting RAW might not be needed to take good shots, but is essential to taking GREAT shots. The camera still makes decisions, which you can't control, for every other format except for RAW. RAW+jpg is only way I shoot so I have thumbnails. If you can shoot in RAW then by all means always shoot in RAW so you have total post production control.

6spd 10-21-2010 11:14 PM
right, changing things like white balance or using selective color in PS causes so much noise to appear. editing in RAW is the only way to go for GREAT pics.

Boost_lee 10-21-2010 11:16 PM
that doesnt look bad at all for ISO 1600 at that resolution :)

nice work

NXTAZEE 10-21-2010 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Dark_Sub_Rosa (Post 776364)
I have to slightly disagree, shooting RAW might not be needed to take good shots, but is essential to taking GREAT shots. The camera still makes decisions, which you can't control, for every other format except for RAW. RAW+jpg is only way I shoot so I have thumbnails. If you can shoot in RAW then by all means always shoot in RAW so you have total post production control.
Yes, great photos do require raw format and raw is best for editing . Full control is there if you want it. When shooting in manual you have full control of all settings. The only time the camera will make choices for you is in auto mode. When shooting in aperture priority only the shutter speed is made by the camera. And when shooting in shutter priority it's the aperture thats decided by the camera. Actually program mode is quite nice, as it makes the choice for both aperture and shutter and does quite a good job at it. Exposure, iso, white balance, flash etc are all controllable by the shooter.

Dark_Sub_Rosa 10-22-2010 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by NXTAZEE (Post 776431)
Yes, great photos do require raw format and raw is best for editing . Full control is there if you want it. When shooting in manual you have full control of all settings. The only time the camera will make choices for you is in auto mode. When shooting in aperture priority only the shutter speed is made by the camera. And when shooting in shutter priority it's the aperture thats decided by the camera. Actually program mode is quite nice, as it makes the choice for both aperture and shutter and does quite a good job at it. Exposure, iso, white balance, flash etc are all controllable by the shooter.

I wasn't referring to those settings. When you take a photo, even in full manual mode on the camera, if you are shooting a jpg the camera automatically makes slight adjustments as to what it thinks the photo should look like, more advanced settings that you edit in RAW, the camera is doing that for a jpg. If you ever shot in RAW+jpg you can look at the exact same photo you took and the jpg looks different than the RAW file. It isn't just a more editable file, it's actually different. Although it's minor adjustments it's still not the exact same photo side by side with the RAW and the Jpg. The camera makes way more decisions for you than you think even when shooting full manual if not in RAW.

ThoriumHotdog 10-22-2010 10:59 PM
New wallpaper!! Thanks. Gorgeous shots.

6spd 10-22-2010 11:01 PM
moral of the story: if you are going to edit in the fullest regard and want FULL control over every aspect of the shot, shoot in RAW and manual mode.

NXTAZEE 10-22-2010 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Dark_Sub_Rosa (Post 777942)
I wasn't referring to those settings. When you take a photo, even in full manual mode on the camera, if you are shooting a jpg the camera automatically makes slight adjustments as to what it thinks the photo should look like, more advanced settings that you edit in RAW, the camera is doing that for a jpg. If you ever shot in RAW+jpg you can look at the exact same photo you took and the jpg looks different than the RAW file. It isn't just a more editable file, it's actually different. Although it's minor adjustments it's still not the exact same photo side by side with the RAW and the Jpg. The camera makes way more decisions for you than you think even when shooting full manual if not in RAW.
I see. I have never looked that closely I guess. Unfortunately my camera doesn't take both at one time, as it is a relatively inexpensive DSLR.

Xan 10-22-2010 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by NXTAZEE (Post 777973)
I see. I have never looked that closely I guess. Unfortunately my camera doesn't take both at one time, as it is a relatively inexpensive DSLR.
Even old basic models have this option..

Dark_Sub_Rosa 10-22-2010 11:46 PM
To get back on topic, sorry for the side tracking, to be at 1600 that's not a horrid amount of noise.

6spd 10-23-2010 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Dark_Sub_Rosa (Post 778028)
To get back on topic, sorry for the side tracking, to be at 1600 that's not a horrid amount of noise.
no not at all

RiCharlie 10-23-2010 01:56 PM
Noise
 
Well I was going to post some pics of my own but after seeing these I am too embarrassed!! Great shots!! I went out shooting the other day but the foliage has passed and so got basically the car but nothing around it to create the surrounding atmosphere. :ugh2:

Regarding a comment about noise..you said

Quote:
Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 776222)
Canon T2i

Yeah, I made the mistake of not setting the camera to RAW and photobucket ruins quality too, double whammy:mad: plus the aperture mode set the iso too high.

I could be wrong but as far as I know you would have to use JPEG compression at some point to send the files over the net and I dont think any website would care to host any other kind of files other than JPEGs and so that would cancel any advantage you might have had originally shooting in RAW. Maybe the webmaster here could enlighten us on this?

However, its easy to get rid of most JPEG compression noise with a number of programs including Noise Ninja. But I bet 99 out of 100 viewers would not notice it.
Again, great work! Maybe these will be on the cover of the next Nissan brochure!

memorylasts 10-23-2010 02:01 PM
Im finally back behind a decent monitor, the composition is great i like it, what i was looking at yesterday was what appeared to be a high ISO, unfortunately it was, as you said live and learn. I tend to keep my ISO down at 100 for 90% of my work just to avoid noise/grain, I change it if i want to find a different effect.

Also the higher the ISO i am shooting the more likely i want to shoot in raw, more room for correction if there is a little.

6spd 10-23-2010 09:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RiCharlie (Post 778442)
Well I was going to post some pics of my own but after seeing these I am too embarrassed!! Great shots!! I went out shooting the other day but the foliage has passed and so got basically the car but nothing around it to create the surrounding atmosphere. :ugh2:

Regarding a comment about noise..you said




I could be wrong but as far as I know you would have to use JPEG compression at some point to send the files over the net and I dont think any website would care to host any other kind of files other than JPEGs and so that would cancel any advantage you might have had originally shooting in RAW. Maybe the webmaster here could enlighten us on this?

However, its easy to get rid of most JPEG compression noise with a number of programs including Noise Ninja. But I bet 99 out of 100 viewers would not notice it.
Again, great work! Maybe these will be on the cover of the next Nissan brochure!
Well that'd be one step into jpeg rather than being taken as a jpeg, saved as a jpeg, and posted and compressed again as a jpeg. The fewer steps of compression, the better. Yeah it'd be cool to be in a magazine, but there are far better photographers an pictures than mine!
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Originally Posted by memorylasts (Post 778445)
Im finally back behind a decent monitor, the composition is great i like it, what i was looking at yesterday was what appeared to be a high ISO, unfortunately it was, as you said live and learn. I tend to keep my ISO down at 100 for 90% of my work just to avoid noise/grain, I change it if i want to find a different effect.

Also the higher the ISO i am shooting the more likely i want to shoot in raw, more room for correction if there is a little.
Yeah if I could go back in time, I'd set the iso to 100 instead of auto. I got the camera and the excitement to get out and shoot sorta blinded me!

RiCharlie 10-24-2010 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 778743)
Well that'd be one step into jpeg rather than being taken as a jpeg, saved as a jpeg, and posted and compressed again as a jpeg. The fewer steps of compression, the better. Yeah it'd be cool to be in a magazine, but there are far better photographers an pictures than mine!


Yeah if I could go back in time, I'd set the iso to 100 instead of auto. I got the camera and the excitement to get out and shoot sorta blinded me!
Well your "three" compression steps are really one. Taking and saving are one process and posting does not require further compression if it was done correctly the first time.

I would much tend to believe the problem was caused by your use of high iso which is not JPEG compression but internal camera noise amplified. Using high ISO also decreases dynamic range..

My personal feeling is that shooting in RAW is a needless waste of time UNLESS you are shooting in conditions which might require extensive corrections due to camera meter error. In that case you can use RAW or bracket your exposures. I certainly dont like all the extra fiddling around with the RAW adjustments and I challenge any one to tell me they can tell the difference between a properly exposed JPEG and a RAW file on any computer monitor or even an 8 x 10 print. I use a NIkon D 90 with a Nikor 18-200 mm lens.

6spd 10-24-2010 09:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RiCharlie (Post 779038)
Well your "three" compression steps are really one. Taking and saving are one process and posting does not require further compression if it was done correctly the first time.

I would much tend to believe the problem was caused by your use of high iso which is not JPEG compression but internal camera noise amplified. Using high ISO also decreases dynamic range..

My personal feeling is that shooting in RAW is a needless waste of time UNLESS you are shooting in conditions which might require extensive corrections due to camera meter error. In that case you can use RAW or bracket your exposures. I certainly dont like all the extra fiddling around with the RAW adjustments and I challenge any one to tell me they can tell the difference between a properly exposed JPEG and a RAW file on any computer monitor. I use a NIkon D 90
Photography isn't a static process of standing there, snapping a shot and calling it a day for a lot of people. I shoot in RAW so I can manipulate the **** out of the picture if i want, which in my free time I do. There isn't one special way everyone is going to use, we all do it differently.

6spd 10-24-2010 10:06 AM
BTW, we have a photography chat thread for all this iso/RAW/jpeg non-sense, so lets navigate this topic over there.

RiCharlie 10-25-2010 03:48 PM
Pics
 
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Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 779057)
BTW, we have a photography chat thread for all this iso/RAW/jpeg non-sense, so lets navigate this topic over there.
Thanks but I really did not want to chat about photography ,,,just wanted to complement you on your excellent photos and tell you that IMO you should not be kicking yourself for using JPEG and not RAW as I dont think that would make a bit of difference.

Meanwhile I posted a few pics of my own.. just quick grab shots with a bit of editing because everyone had been after me to post some pics...

6spd 10-25-2010 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by RiCharlie (Post 780838)
Thanks but I really did not want to chat about photography ,,,just wanted to complement you on your excellent photos and tell you that IMO you should not be kicking yourself for using JPEG and not RAW as I dont think that would make a bit of difference.

Meanwhile I posted a few pics of my own.. just quick grab shots with a bit of editing because everyone had been after me to post some pics...
thanks man, i appreciate it. for most all intents and purposes, the difference is so minuscule it cant be discerned, but upon editing is where the difference is quickly noticed.

Dark_Sub_Rosa 10-25-2010 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 779057)
BTW, we have a photography chat thread for all this iso/RAW/jpeg non-sense, so lets navigate this topic over there.
Posted. :)

Cmike2780 10-25-2010 10:12 PM
Really nice work Six.

That's really not bad for ISO 1600 as some have mentioned, but it is slightly noticeable on the white paint.

You should be able to adjust the ISO setting independently in Aperture priority. That's what I usually use. The Manual mode is really more of a way to fine tune and too time consuming to mess around with while in the field.

6spd 10-25-2010 10:23 PM
what is kind of cool though about higher iso shots like this is that it gives the picture more of a slightly animated feel, or somewhat like a painting. Get what I mean?


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