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kustomZ 03-09-2009 09:56 PM

This is why my car isn't coming off the lot!!!
 
I don't know if this is a member on here...it looks like they took the z out to test it out a little bit. This is why I'm ordering mine, and am very weary about buying a sports car off a lot. You never know what the test drives consist of. MILD NSFW Warning for some language

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsDCy86VWyk

YouTube - Nissan 370z Test Drive

frost 03-09-2009 09:59 PM

lol, he's just breaking it in for you :D

kustomZ 03-09-2009 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 41616)
lol, he's just breaking it in for you :D

:bowrofl: Hey thanks man, let me buy you a steak dinner for breaking the car in for me.

dad 03-09-2009 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kustomZ (Post 41613)
I don't know if this is a member on here...it looks like they took the z out to test it out a little bit. This is why I'm ordering mine, and am very weary about buying a sports car off a lot. You never know what the test drives consist of.

I agree with you! I've seen car dealers on the streets, driving cars from the lot, almost too the point of abuse!

u155282 03-09-2009 10:13 PM

fav quotes:

"where'd they get AAARRRRLLLLGH the torque from!?"

"I don't think human could do that." "... uhhh yeah."

frost 03-09-2009 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kustomZ (Post 41623)
:bowrofl: Hey thanks man, let me buy you a steak dinner for breaking the car in for me.

:rofl2: I should open that business. "Let Frost break your car in, so you don't have to!"

Arcangel 03-09-2009 10:16 PM

I agree 1000 percent I have never and will never, buy a performance car on the lot. I ordered my firebird, 350, will order my 370 and so on and so forth

Anatoray 03-09-2009 10:17 PM

Wow, the passanger was annoying... So annoying the video apologizes for it lol.

It doesn't look like they do anything too crazy, although they d talk about drifting if it weren't for people... They are doing an inordinate amount of ******* around though. That is my fear about buying ANY car from the lot, and I honestly would not have bought the one at my dealership if it wasn't for the fact that it only had 6 miles on it.

Money Shot 03-09-2009 11:48 PM

Hate to break it to you but even if you ordered your car, it'll still have 5-6 miles on it when you get it. Who's to say they didn't "test" the car like crazy for a mile or two? Ignorance is bliss in this case; besides the VQ engine has been around for ages and I bet it's meant to be beaten from day one especially in a 370z.

Dark_Sub_Rosa 03-10-2009 12:22 AM

Screw that, demo cars get used hard and put up wet. If I end up with one I'm definitely ordering it.

Anatoray 03-10-2009 12:51 AM

Demo cars are always questionable, but they're also where you can usually find the deals, especially on first year cars. Chances are someone probably did do a fairly rough test drive of it, but will one or two wild drives before the engine is "broken in" ruin it for life? I highly doubt it. Its for those reasons though you check out a car on the lot inside and out twice, and do your own test drive of that very car.

Moneyshot is right though: ignorance is bliss.

kustomZ 03-10-2009 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Money Shot (Post 41708)
Hate to break it to you but even if you ordered your car, it'll still have 5-6 miles on it when you get it. Who's to say they didn't "test" the car like crazy for a mile or two? Ignorance is bliss in this case; besides the VQ engine has been around for ages and I bet it's meant to be beaten from day one especially in a 370z.

You're right, I don't know what happens between the factory and truck, but I'll take my chances that the employees that move the cars do so in a professional manner.

I would rather order a car like this, then to pick one up from the lot that has been beat on by joy-riders.

These engines are built to last, but a properly broken-in motor will always last longer than one that's been put through its paces too early.

semtex 03-10-2009 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 41648)
:rofl2: I should open that business. "Let Frost break your car in, so you don't have to!"

You say that jokingly, but my mechanic has a customer who actually pays him extra after getting a new clutch, or brake rotors, or whatever to keep the car for a week, drive it around, and break everything in. The guy's attitude is 'I don't want to deal with that stuff. You do it for me.'

kustomZ 03-10-2009 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 41781)
You say that jokingly, but my mechanic has a customer who actually pays him extra after getting a new clutch, or brake rotors, or whatever to keep the car for a week, drive it around, and break everything in. The guy's attitude is 'I don't want to deal with that stuff. You do it for me.'

wow

kustomZ 03-10-2009 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by u155282 (Post 41644)
fav quotes:

"where'd they get AAARRRRLLLLGH the torque from!?"

"I don't think human could do that." "... uhhh yeah."

haha, yeah that guy was pretty annoying.:ugh:

chubbs 03-10-2009 12:11 PM

When I first did a test drive in a 350z the salesman told me they were being especially careful because a customer at their branch in the next town had taken a Z out on a test drive and driven it off the road and into a ditch.

Now, I wonder if they told the person who eventually bought that car about the damage it had sustained? No prizes for guessing the right answer.

Don't buy an ex-demo car.



edit - and that video..... Beavis & Butthead Go for a Ride!



edit2 - People or no people, I don't think he'd do ANY drifting with VDC ON!!!! Duhhhh.

u155282 03-10-2009 03:33 PM

A while back I went to a local Nissan dealer to test drive a 350. I had intentions to buy one down the line but certainly wasn't going to do it that day. I told the salesman that and without skipping a beat told me "come back when you're ready to buy." Me: "are you serious?" him: "yeah. We don't do test drives unless we know you're serious. Nobody wants to buy a new Z with high miles."

While it pissed me off at the time, it kinda of makes me feel better to know they do some screening. Not enough apparently though...

bluzman 03-10-2009 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by u155282 (Post 41930)
A while back I went to a local Nissan dealer to test drive a 350. I had intentions to buy one down the line but certainly wasn't going to do it that day. I told the salesman that and without skipping a beat told me "come back when you're ready to buy." Me: "are you serious?" him: "yeah. We don't do test drives unless we know you're serious. Nobody wants to buy a new Z with high miles."

While it pissed me off at the time, it kinda of makes me feel better to know they do some screening. Not enough apparently though...

This is exactly what I was told at the dealer where I eventually bought mine. When I took delivery, I knew that except for about 5 of the miles recorded on the odometer, the rest had been racked up by me during a test drive. BTW, I test drove another dealer's "demo" before I bought mine. Drove it like I stole it...:roflpuke2:

Zerafian 03-10-2009 08:11 PM

You dont buy the car you test drive and theres usually a couple demo cars the f*ck with anyways...I wouldnt let that sully your thoughts from buying off the lot.

I floored the 350 on the test drive I took...but didnt buy that one.

AK370Z 03-10-2009 08:19 PM

I never test drove my Zs. Not even the new 370Z. I exactly know what these cars are capable of ;).

ssqpolo 03-10-2009 08:22 PM

how are his gauges blue? wait. are mine? lol.
on topic: when u go for a test drive, you will push the car to see what it can do. I did it, not in the one i bought lol, sorry, but ya its true. I wanted to know if it was worth trading my 350

Anatoray 03-10-2009 10:56 PM

His guages are actually white. The angle of the camera is what's causing it to look blue, and if you watch, when he leans to the left sometimes they turn white, and all of the street lights outside look blueish as well.

arcticreaver 03-11-2009 12:19 AM

hehe i got mine off the lot, there was only 5 miles on them hopefully people didn't test drive the **** out of it.

Greg 03-11-2009 10:20 AM

Don't know if Nissan dealers offer it... But they should have a DME (over rev) report like Porsche etc...

nogoodname 03-11-2009 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kustomZ (Post 41613)
I don't know if this is a member on here...it looks like they took the z out to test it out a little bit. This is why I'm ordering mine, and am very weary about buying a sports car off a lot. You never know what the test drives consist of. MILD NSFW Warning for some language

buying off the lot isnt so bad.....it's just the demo car you should not buy.

SoCal 370Z 03-11-2009 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kustomZ (Post 41613)
I don't know if this is a member on here...it looks like they took the z out to test it out a little bit. This is why I'm ordering mine, and am very weary about buying a sports car off a lot. You never know what the test drives consist of.

Good luck as your Z will be handled by several drivers getting it out of port, onto transport, and car-jockeyed in several places to and fro before it gets to you!

The_Zed_car 03-11-2009 03:38 PM

New cars get beaten plenty before they even get delivered.

I, personally, would not buy a car i cannot drive. (i also use good judgement on the test drive too).

kustomZ 03-11-2009 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by arcticreaver (Post 42198)
hehe i got mine off the lot, there was only 5 miles on them hopefully people didn't test drive the **** out of it.

Only 5 miles? I bet it didn't even leave the lot, except with you.

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Originally Posted by The_Zed_car (Post 42529)
New cars get beaten plenty before they even get delivered.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z (Post 42517)
Good luck as your Z will be handled by several drivers getting it out of port, onto transport, and car-jockeyed in several places to and fro before it gets to you!

And once again, I would rather take the car upon delivery, then have all of what you mentioned happen, then have the car driven by random people at the lot.

I'm not stupid, and I know there is no possible way to get the car with zero miles; I'm simply saying I want the lesser of two evils.

Anatoray 03-11-2009 04:50 PM

Have you guys ever seen the QC process at Nissan? If it's comparable to what Honda does, you may find yourself being a little more lenient lol. My friend's dad is part of the QC team at the Honda plant in Columbus. I got to see part of the process and all I have to say is OH. MY. GOD.

chubbs 03-11-2009 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Anatoray (Post 42566)
Have you guys ever seen the QC process at Nissan? If it's comparable to what Honda does, you may find yourself being a little more lenient lol. My friend's dad is part of the QC team at the Honda plant in Columbus. I got to see part of the process and all I have to say is OH. MY. GOD.

Although this is slightly off topic, can you tell us more?

kustomZ 03-11-2009 05:20 PM

Yeah don't leave us hanging like that!!! lol

78mao 03-11-2009 05:25 PM

i feel bad for whoever buys that car LOL

Anatoray 03-11-2009 08:04 PM

Honda has a 200 point QC check where they check just about EVERYTHING involving the car. This includes the ability to withstand redlining, anti-lock breaking at speeds over 35, and resistance to FLOODING. Yes, you read it right, they test their cars against flooding by partially submerging them and hosing them for a good 5 minutes and checking to see if any water got into the car. If water got in, it's DQed and sent to a team to be fixed. The only thing they don't check is collision and any sensors tied to that, although the sensors themselves are tested before they're placed in cars.

So when you get your specially ordered car with only 5-6 miles on it, chances are those were some ****** up 5-6 miles. If that scares you, I am sorry, but it is a neccessary evil in order for car companies to give you the guarantees that they do. I have NO idea what Nissan puts their cars through, but I am willing to bet its similar to Honda.

edit: If you're wondering about the submerging, they hose the car in a sealed room until the water level just starts to pass the base of the car.

semtex 03-12-2009 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anatoray (Post 42626)
Honda has a 200 point QC check where they check just about EVERYTHING involving the car. This includes the ability to withstand redlining, anti-lock breaking at speeds over 35, and resistance to FLOODING. Yes, you read it right, they test their cars against flooding by partially submerging them and hosing them for a good 5 minutes and checking to see if any water got into the car. If water got in, it's DQed and sent to a team to be fixed. The only thing they don't check is collision and any sensors tied to that, although the sensors themselves are tested before they're placed in cars.

So when you get your specially ordered car with only 5-6 miles on it, chances are those were some ****** up 5-6 miles. If that scares you, I am sorry, but it is a neccessary evil in order for car companies to give you the guarantees that they do. I have NO idea what Nissan puts their cars through, but I am willing to bet its similar to Honda.

edit: If you're wondering about the submerging, they hose the car in a sealed room until the water level just starts to pass the base of the car.

Do they bother checking the 'little' things like making sure the windows roll down properly? Because I bought an S2000 back in 2002, and it came with a bum window motor. Needless to say, I'm not impressed with Honda's QC. Adding insult to injury, I had to find and print out a TSB on the issue before my dealer would agree to fix it. That's the last time I ever buy a Honda.

Anatoray 03-12-2009 12:30 PM

Yes, they do. Alot of the 200 point checks are the controls and motors. For S2000s, that's Japan's QC policy, so I do not know if they check as many things as the US plants do. Another thing to note is that not every car goes through the entire 200 point process. At Honda, all of them went through instrument checks and basic driving tests, but only a few from each "batch" would go through the extreme stuff, like flood resistance, high temperature tests, and such.


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