True Fact: Every time a 370Z is started, an immaculate conception occurs.

You're right. :) That's certainly my bias coming forward, as I've disliked the Corvette until the C7. But it does seem like plenty of people start out with the Z as a cheaper alternative to the Corvette, until they realize they can not only afford it but they do want the power. :)

:hello: Greeting's KrisL, :hello:

nice to see and read your post today and were all glad your here with us on
the 370Z forum. Your post reminds me of my own situation. Although it
was way back in July of 2010 I purchased my 2010 Pearl White Nismo, I'm
at about 72,000 miles and as well the smile and the pride of daily driving
my Nismo never diminishes....We are all here on the forum because
we all love and enjoy are 370Z sports cars, be it a base, stock, modified,
or a extreme build we all share the same passion at the end of the day....:iagree:

forum brother -Clifford :tup:

Only when I am at the track do I feel the need for a C6 powerplant. I'd love the thought of 100+ more HP, but on the street my Z competes very well without.

The article was a mixture of apples to apples and then to oranges as has been pointed out by others. The Nismo has often lost to the base sport for some reason, and this seems to be more of the same. As so often occurs the newer model is heavier than past iterations.

The part I do not understand is that the yen has been devalued and the car got more expensive in dollars.

Gothcha man!:tup:

I don't find the look of the M235i to be appealing, except for the distinctive front end.
The side and back remind me of a Taurus.

I love my Nismo period. I still get people staring at my car and asking me questions at the gas station. When I bought this car I knew what I was getting. This is a car meant to go to the track. So comforts will be lost in the car. When people say other cars are more "liveable" it really just depends on the person. I drive my car all year round, and with winter tires I have no problems with my car. The review was probably on a green car. My Nismo was slow (I had an lightly modded 350Z) then around 7500-8000 miles not only did I get better gas mpg, but it was faster as well. Raced my friends Cayman S and he won, after the 8K miles and I won both cars are stock. Automobile Magazine did a 0- 1 mile run in a New 2013 Nismo it did 1 mile at 139.9mph in 35.9 seconds. I did the run and at 1mile I was at 150mph.

Its so hard to ignore those comments about the Z in the comment section. I just want to put all those noobs on blast

I feel the same way bro. But it looks like we would be outnumbered on there. I really want to say something to the guy that said the GTI put up better performance numbers than the Z :icon14:

That was the comment that made me RQ and click X :roflpuke2:

I got a laugh when the reviewer wrote "the interior felt like it finally made the jump to modern times and better matched with the aggressive exterior styling". It's the same f'ing interior that the Z has had for 6 years, for crying out loud!

I agree with the criticisms of the $46K price tag - that's ridiculous. For that price I'd buy a Challenger SRT8 Scat Pack (pretty much fully optioned) instead.

Id opt for a X or a sti :yum:

That's cool, different strokes, 'ya know? :tup:

That's the beauty of cars man, the srt hauls ***. I'm a canyon guy hence the decision :driving:

Bunch of 14 year olds making comments. They don't even have cars yet for crying out loud. That my friends, is why I don't talk cars anymore to anyone.

They're just reporting actual weights now.

I autocrossed and did some light duty laps on Nissan's Grandrive test track in Japan 2 weeks ago. Its a nice rework of the car. Talked for at least an hour with the suspension engineer, he did a great job on it, the car didn't plow at all in the autocross, even when it was raining on us.

As for the M235i, thats my daily driver. I took it out for a session at Atlanta Motorsports Park and in my opinion, it behaved better than a stock 370z. I can't say how it would fair against the 15 nismo though.

Also, word I got in Japan is Nissan is committed to the next Z, but they don't have the budget for development right now, so it won't be out before 2017, and that is at the earliest.

I think what it boils down to is simply this; Nissan has allowed the Z34 to overstay it's welcome in production. Two days ago I met a great guy with the '15 nismo, and I got a chance to see it in person. It was red just like mine, and although the flashy new add ons were nice, it was still the same exact vehicle Nissan has given is since late 2009! We are all on this forum because we love our cars, but I think it's safe to say that this platform is becoming aged when compared to its competitors. I think Nissan blew it by keeping the Z34 alive without any notable changes. The balls they had to mark up the price to nearly 50K is astounding! I can only hope that they did this to make the successor more desirable.

Yea, that is what turned me off, I was thinking caused I liked to new looks, but for a few dollars more you can get a base Vette, I have not at the new stang pricing

Nissan should.

They should follow the marketing and trickery that Porsche does to its 911. Porsche has the the newer Cockster and Gayman that could beat their 911 flagship; yet, they manage to sell more cars from each model without killing their flagship. :)

Older Nismo looks so much better from the front. I like the change, but I don't like it enough.

Such a great car on the inside but the outside really needs to be redesigned to the exotic side. But then again, I guess beauty is to the eye of the beholder.

All I know is im keeping mine until I can gather enough for a GTR. Which even then I might keep this

When the 370Z came out it was 3 generation of Mustang ago.

The Cammaro wasn't even out yet and when it did debut it took Ford 1 entire year to respond to the power gains.

Now, Nissan didn't have the displacement or a forced induction plan for the car likely because of budget. So they did nothing and saved money which is fine but changes were needed 5 years ago. They had an opportunity to go a different route and they could have even gone after it with a limited edition car to test the waters and didn't. So, when the BRZ came out and showed a simple car with good handling can really become popular they still did nothing. They have made changes but all well within the realm of safe as if current sales numbers are acceptable. I don't understand Nissan logic at all.

I agree, I like the interior very much, that's it. Actually, the older wheels are much nicer

Well I agree the nismo price is a little crazy - but I purchased my 2013 base z for $28,500 and I would take that over mustang/camero any day ! I love how I don't see a million z's on the road a day-

The seats and the Alcantara on the wheel, doors, and dash are new though, right? That's enough to make a big difference in how the interior feels.

Would you believe that alcantara costs so much yet a lot, not all, car enthusiasts do not really like it for its 70's-80's suede look?

I don't like it myself and much prefer leather.

Really? Wow, I'd take Alcantara over leather any day. Heck, I'd take the base cloth over leather.


Leather is hot in summer, cold in winter, and doesn't hold you in place very well (IMHO).

I'm with you. I can't stand leather seats...way too slippery. I also find cloth more comfortable when driving long distances.

I have been in many seats (cloth, leather, vinyl, etc.). Granted that each material has it own roughness/smoothness, the seat design will have a tremendous effect to how it will hold you as the driver.

Alcantara would probably have the most grip among the material. Perfect for track guys.

I don't track (yet) but I do a lot of canyon carving. I would have liked the alcantara if it were for its uneven look once you sit on it. Much like a "walked on grass lawn."

As i initially said, a lot (but not all) don't like it.

It's a personal choice, the weather where you reside, the car's air conditioning power, etc.