Originally Posted by Namir (Post 26964)

You talk about bang for the buck but you say you are going to turbo your Z immediately?

New Z is going to be 33-43k depending on what options you get, + at least 10k for a turbo set up with proper tuning, and then all the supporting chassis/engine modification to make it a balanced car it'll likely be around 15k before you are said and done. That brings your total to 48-58k dollars with no warranty.
Those 'expensive' 335s and M3's don't sound like such a bad deal after all. Especially since they can be had for invoice and under.


Just playing devil's advocate, I still love the Z :tup:

Originally Posted by Lug (Post 27020)

I'd assume he'd want to bump the performance of the 335i as well since it's performance won't quite equal a stock 370Z.

Originally Posted by JacksHereR (Post 27473)

"It's like a lion looking for the weakest in a herd of zebras or something. "

now im realising how you engineer your porn lol

Originally Posted by bossman (Post 33666)

Z = sporty, fast, viscous, cheap

335i = sporty, fast, refined, expensive, chick magnet, BMW history, luxury, better re-sale, bmw "magical steering feel," better interior, sexy, classy

Originally Posted by Crash (Post 33678)

OK... I beg to differ. The Z isn't cheap. It's bang for the buck. A cheap car is a Scion TC at $16K. If you want to say it's cheap for what you're getting, a better way to say it is "inexpensive" instead of making it sound like the car is a piece of crap.

Better resale? You're contradicting yourself. You're saying you can buy a used one for $30K with low miles... That sounds like a steep depreciation. We don't know what the Z will sell for used yet.

Better interior is completely moot. Both interiors are purpose designed. However, the interior on the Z comes with more standard features. Personally, I like the interior on the Z more, so "better interior" really is an opinion.

Originally Posted by sprix! (Post 22020)

You should try to toss some punctuation in that post. It would make it immensely more readable. I agree that the cars are different and really play to different crowds. (if that is what you are saying...) Pricing is not really competitive between the two, but performance certainly is. However, since the 135i was supposedly a loser in its comparison with the Z, we can expect the comparison between a Z and a 335i to look even more favorably on the Z. That is because the 335i weighs more than the 135i and will have slightly decreased relative performance.
Even though the 335i may not have the most stellar interior to date, it still outclasses the interior from the 370z. Nissan made vast improvements to the interior of the Z, but it still has a way to go. I personally find that the top of the inside door panels as well as most of the dash is covered in a coarse, cheap feeling plastic. All of the 335s I have encountered don't have any surfaces or panels that feel cheap in any way.
To Alexus, I think you have forgotten that ALL maintenance is included with the purchase of any new BMW. With that in mind, the car looks very attractive to some buyers. Particularly those who only lease vehicles and tend to escape out of one lease and into another before such warranty periods expire. Perhaps the car will be expensive to maintain outside of warranty, but I know of a few BMWs that were regularly serviced and that are holding up quite well outside of the warranty period.
Performance- Z slightly edges out the 335i
Styling is subjective of course
Price- Z wins
Reliability- too early to tell; I would guess both will be comparable
Interior quality- 335i hands down
Resale/value retention- too early to compare; I would guess they will be comparable

It all comes down to money, IMO. If one has to stay below a $40k budget, the Z is a hard car to pass up. If one has a price ceiling that hovers around $50k, the 335i is equally tempting. To be fair, however, there are numerous viable performance options that become available as one sails past the $45k mark. Chances are, the buyers for these two vehicles are not the same, and won't be cross shopping.

Originally Posted by Crash (Post 33678)

OK... I beg to differ. The Z isn't cheap. It's bang for the buck. A cheap car is a Scion TC at $16K. If you want to say it's cheap for what you're getting, a better way to say it is "inexpensive" instead of making it sound like the car is a piece of crap.

Better resale? You're contradicting yourself. You're saying you can buy a used one for $30K with low miles... That sounds like a steep depreciation. We don't know what the Z will sell for used yet.

Better interior is completely moot. Both interiors are purpose designed. However, the interior on the Z comes with more standard features. Personally, I like the interior on the Z more, so "better interior" really is an opinion.

Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z (Post 33826)

bossman,


Just remember years from now, when you are divorced because the woman that married you, married you for your car that the 370Z would have made your life significantly happier, and without the alimony! ;)

Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z (Post 33826)

bossman,

Are you interested in purchasing a 370Z, or what? If you were to add up your posts statically you have already made-up your mind on a BMW—that's what you should purchase.

Just remember years from now, when you are divorced because the woman that married you, married you for your car that the 370Z would have made your life significantly happier, and without the alimony! ;)

Originally Posted by Mental Block (Post 33819)

No offense to bossman, but you seem a little obsessed about your car being a "chick magnet". You've already made a thread on this. Any girl worth keeping isn't going to want to be with you because of what you drive.