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Drakonis GTR 07-27-2014 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by watson853 (Post 2909905)
Seems like the new supra may be a Z competitor after all. I hope nissan doesn't go plug in hybrid.....

New Toyota Supra Powertrain Details Emerge


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Interesting read. Seem's overly complex with 3 electric motors, but if it meets their performance specs, hard to argue with it.

I dunno, it just drives me nuts that the only answer to higher fuel economy that all of the Asian companies can come up with is to go with a Turbo 4. I realize that it does the trick, and it gets agencies like the EPA off their back. But it just seems like such a cop-out to me. If I had really wanted a car with a turbo 4, I'd just go buy an FRS and be done with it.

zeeder 07-28-2014 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Drakonis GTR (Post 2909923)
Interesting read. Seem's overly complex with 3 electric motors, but if it meets their performance specs, hard to argue with it.

I dunno, it just drives me nuts that the only answer to higher fuel economy that all of the Asian companies can come up with is to go with a Turbo 4. I realize that it does the trick, and it gets agencies like the EPA off their back. But it just seems like such a cop-out to me. If I had really wanted a car with a turbo 4, I'd just go buy an FRS and be done with it.

The FR-S doesn't have a turbo four, it just has a boxer four. Also, Mazda has not done the turbo thing with it's Sky Active technology so not all Japanese brands are going turbo four. That said, Ford and Chevy have been doing a lot of turboing as of late.

mpp9 07-29-2014 12:05 AM

Haven't been on here in forever.

Have gone from 09 base Z to 04 sti back to a '12 sport Z back to a '12 sti. If this new Z cuts weight, has legit torque and looks like how a Z should, I'm making the switch again.

I've got no problem with the turbo 4. If they're cutting the dimensions to allow for a sub 3000 lb curb weight, the handling characteristics will more than make up for it.

MagmaRed370z 08-03-2014 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Valentino (Post 2907608)
:iagree:

:iagree:

380Z Makes a lot of senses. it even sounds right :icon17:

240z (2400cc), 260z(2600cc), 280z (2800cc), 300zx (3000cc), 350z (3500cc), 370z (3700cc), and they are all 6 cylinders.

380z sounds good. 380 hp and 320 torque would be awesome. Maintain the high quality of the interiors and reduce 200 lbs and it should be good to go.

roplusbee 08-03-2014 04:23 AM

They could always bring back the inline 6 with updated technology behind it and both shed weight and make power. Of course we will be at the EPA's mercy to a point. Which only makes the 3.0T V6 or I6 (would be nice) the default choice that makes sense. I would lean toward I6 because of balance, simplicity (for turbo plumbing as well as others), and most of all weight savings..........

There is an obvious choice, but is NISSAN willing to put for the effort? Until then, I have my turbo Z already.........so I doubt I will be in the market for a new car (unless the wife wants one too).

watson853 08-03-2014 02:20 PM

So first came the announcement of the hybrid supra now the hybrid s2000 has apparently been confirmed. Hybrid Z may very well be coming.... I love instant torque but I'm not sold yet. Here's the new s2000 info

http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2014/8/3...-Life-7721784/

aszyd 08-03-2014 02:56 PM

My biggest concern from going hybrid is all the added weight. What good is 360 HP (from the S2000 article) if you add a few hundred lbs of batteries and motors.

Magic Bus 08-03-2014 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by schellingr (Post 2917475)
380z sounds good. 380 hp and 320 torque would be awesome. Maintain the high quality of the interiors and reduce 200 lbs and it should be good to go.

One can hope and dream. But are you aware if Nissan pulled this off, you're talking almost exact numbers to a Porsche 911S?

That being said, if Nissan did create this for under $50k, I'm in.

k2hks 08-03-2014 04:38 PM

I hope the z35 has a highly strung 2lt turbo 4pot for good power and weight balance.

Eclipz 08-03-2014 05:47 PM

I hope the z35 has a 6.5L twin turbo V12 and made completley out of carbon fiber and titanium

Rusty 08-03-2014 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by roplusbee (Post 2917527)
They could always bring back the inline 6 with updated technology behind it and both shed weight and make power. Of course we will be at the EPA's mercy to a point. Which only makes the 3.0T V6 or I6 (would be nice) the default choice that makes sense. I would lean toward I6 because of balance, simplicity (for turbo plumbing as well as others), and most of all weight savings..........

There is an obvious choice, but is NISSAN willing to put for the effort? Until then, I have my turbo Z already.........so I doubt I will be in the market for a new car (unless the wife wants one too).

BMW dropped the v6 for the M3/4 and is going back with a turbo inline 6. So................

TheBoomSpoon 08-03-2014 07:48 PM

I wish i had the link but i was reading up on the nrw rx-7. The z is gonna face stiff competition for my dough in the next couple years. Gonna be test driving at least 5 cars

2009 7at touring
AAM 2.5 true dual exhaust
AAM de test pipes
Z1 headers
AAM 2.75 cold air intake r-line
motodyne m370 manifold
whiteline f/r sway bars
swift lowering springs
quaife LSD
Z1 34 row oil cooler
Z1 brake rotor and pad upgrade
Tune via hills garage
best 1/4 12.841 at 108.7mph 3540lbs with me in it

watson853 08-03-2014 10:12 PM

I saw the article on the new RX-7 as well and you are right there will be many test drives in my future. If Toyota pulls off what they say the new supra will be the car will be very hard to compete with if it does in fact fall in the Z's price range. My problem with the hybrid sports cars is imagine going for a long spirited drive and running out or low on electric boost only to end up with just your turbo four which would feel considerably slower... Not to mention long term ownership concerns.....

brucelidat 08-04-2014 12:55 AM

There's no way the ft-1/supra will be in the z price range. I think, especially if it looks anything like that, it will at least need to be in the vette range minimum.

G37Sam 08-04-2014 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99 (Post 2907913)
Instant. Fecking. Torque.

You clearly haven't drive a GTR :)


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