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Limeybastard 06-20-2014 08:58 PM

real dumb questions flame suit on
 
Whatever occured to the old fashioned steering wheel lock. Remember, turning car off and slight turn of wheel would lock the steering wheel.

Is this not to US specifications? I ask as I my previous cars here inc Z do not have this ( useless ) function.

JARblue 06-20-2014 09:02 PM

:rofl2:

Nissan made four different revisions and issued a recall before finally removing them from the US models altogether.

Limeybastard 06-20-2014 10:01 PM

So its a us spec thing i take it.
I've owned or had access to approx 6 different cars since being here and none had them.

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cigarclifford 06-20-2014 10:06 PM

The best question of the week on the 370Z Forum......I miss this as well....
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Limeybastard 06-20-2014 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cigarclifford (Post 2867720)
The best question of the week on the 370Z Forum......I miss this as well....
:icon18::icon18::icon18::icon18:

This question is not to he confused or jaded with the 370z steering lock known issue. Okay ;-)

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cooltoy 06-20-2014 10:59 PM

What is the purpose for this lock? Safety?

DEpointfive0 06-20-2014 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Limeybastard (Post 2867630)
Whatever occured to the old fashioned steering wheel lock. Remember, turning car off and slight turn of wheel would lock the steering wheel.

Is this not to US specifications? I ask as I my previous cars here inc Z do not have this ( useless ) function.

I don't know. (Older 370Zs had it, and they broke all the time leaving people stranded) All my other cars have it and they never had an issue with the old fashion type...


And to answer cooltoy's question. I think it was/is a safety feature so that anyone cannot turn on your car, you need to move the steering wheel off the "locked" position to start it.

MadChemist 06-20-2014 11:52 PM

The old fashion steering lock was designed to help reduce thefts. It is to prevent someone from stealing a car by put the vehicle in neutral and "rolling" off with it. With the lock in place, it prevented the thief from steering the vehicle.

DEpointfive0 06-20-2014 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MadChemist (Post 2867866)
The old fashion steering lock was designed to help reduce thefts. It is to prevent someone from stealing a car by put the vehicle in neutral and "rolling" off with it. With the lock in place, it prevented the thief from steering the vehicle.

That too

onzedge 06-21-2014 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadChemist (Post 2867866)
The old fashion steering lock was designed to help reduce thefts. It is to prevent someone from stealing a car by put the vehicle in neutral and "rolling" off with it. With the lock in place, it prevented the thief from steering the vehicle.

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2867867)
That too

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JARblue 06-21-2014 07:21 AM

It is not only US spec. The steering lock is required by law in the EU (possibly other countries as well). I believe they are all using the Rev D model.

It is not required by law in the US, so Nissan made the smart decision to just remove them in 2012, I think.

Zoren 370 06-21-2014 07:39 AM

^ My Z is 2011 i don't have this safely steering locking mechanism. Fyi

JARblue 06-21-2014 07:47 AM

OK it was sometime mid-2011 then. Because I have a 2011 with Rev D.

Drakonis GTR 06-21-2014 10:58 AM

Nah man, that isn't a dumb question. No worries there.

Now a real dumb question would be "Der, where do I put the gas in???"

Z_ealot 06-21-2014 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2868266)
OK it was sometime mid-2011 then. Because I have a 2011 with Rev D.

all 2011 370Z's with a manufacturing date of June 2011 and above do not have the steering lock, my previous Z was part of the June production run and did not include the steering lock, but i have heard from quite a few people with Z's with a manufacturing date before June 2011 that have them.

Limeybastard 06-21-2014 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Drakonis GTR (Post 2868434)
Nah man, that isn't a dumb question. No worries there.

Now a real dumb question would be "Der, where do I put the gas in???"

Or putting oil in the coolent reservoir..

madwi 06-21-2014 02:43 PM

Waiting for next thread... "Should my gas door be at this angle when fully opened? Looks a little off to me." :icon23: :hello:

Limeybastard 06-21-2014 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by madwi (Post 2868581)
Waiting for next thread... "Should my gas door be at this angle when fully opened? Looks a little off to me." :icon23: :hello:

Thanks for your positive contribution as always. And more importantly your LOLz.

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madwi 06-21-2014 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Limeybastard (Post 2868604)
Thanks for your positive contribution as always. And more importantly your LOLz.

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All in good fun. :tup:

BGTV8 06-21-2014 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Limeybastard (Post 2867630)
Whatever occured to the old fashioned steering wheel lock. Remember, turning car off and slight turn of wheel would lock the steering wheel.

Is this not to US specifications? I ask as I my previous cars here inc Z do not have this ( useless ) function.

In the old days, the steering column lock was mechanical and worked off the key.

Now that we don't have a physical key and more and more cars are run from a power distribution module that is able to be programmed (like engine is off, park-brake applied, car in neutral/park, blah blah blah) and the central locking is triggered, then fire the solenoid to lock the steering as an anti-theft measure.

IMHO, it more driven by electronic management of the body (eg: not engine/transmission) than anything else, simply because there is less mechanical management of the vehicle.

I'm not sure about design regulations in the US, but here in Australia, there has been a design rule since the 70's stating that removing the key MUST (as an anti-theft measure) lock the steering column.

markoware 06-21-2014 08:11 PM

This is interesting to me because I bought a 2009 cube (with push button ignition) as a second car and when getting out I hear a motor running in the steering column that I assume is engaging the wheel lock. This explains why I don't hear it in my 2014 Z. I found it odd they were different.

VCuomo 06-22-2014 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2867816)
... And to answer cooltoy's question. I think it was/is a safety feature so that anyone cannot turn on your car, you need to move the steering wheel off the "locked" position to start it.

Not as far as I know - all of the cars I know of, including the pre-2011 370Zs, don't require you to move the steering wheel in order to start it - you just have to move the ignition switch so that the steering wheel unlocks and the starter engages.

I'm not saying that there aren't any models where you also have to move the steering wheel off of the locked position, I've just never seen one and I'm an old fart who remembers when the car manufacturers started putting steering wheel locks in their cars. As MadChemist pointed out, the steering wheel lock was widely advertised back in the day as a "modern" anti-theft device - it had nothing to do with safety.

End of old fart's history lesson for the day. Class dismissed! :D

DavidZ370 06-22-2014 02:52 AM

arghh

UNKNOWN_370 06-24-2014 08:12 AM

:bowrofl:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 2868261)
^ My Z is 2011 i don't have this safely steering locking mechanism. Fyi

Mine neither. My car was one of the last cars built in 2011.


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