If you can afford the car then buy it. If it's going to increase your expenses then you need to get her on board. If it doesn't increase expenses, no discussion is required. It is your car. If you can afford it, and it doesn't increase your expenses, you have to wonder why she would be against it. Loving someone means you want them to be happy. If buying the Z makes you happy and doesn't impact your lifestyle, she should be thrilled you are getting what you want. If she isn't perhaps you have a bigger problem than which car to buy. :stirthepot:

Very good point billydsz. I had the same discussion with my wife and eventually she understood that it would make me happy so she gave in.

Op, just have a serious talk with your wife and explain to her that it would make you happy. I'm sure she will come to understand this and will want you to have the things you work hard for in life. :)

It is easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission...that's my belief and that's what I always tell my male customers who have to go home to ask permission from their wives...

Tell her that financing a car is a depreciating asset...you are currently paying $644, and based on what you said, you have 3 years left (x36 months), that means she's planning to pay a total of over $23k in the next 3 years for a car you are NOT using, and after the 3 years, your vehicle will be worth less than half of that $23k, "so honey, does it make sense for us to make payments every month for something we're NOT using, AND in addition to that, we're looking to pay a total of $23k for something that once we're done paying, will be worth $10k" and reiterate that you are making a payment $85 LESS than the SUV, AND you are saving at least $30 a month on gas, which brings a total saving of $115, "and honey, that $115, we can trade in your Sentra in for an Altima that you always want...and you get the car that you want (bigger, more comfort), and I get a 370Z, and our payments together won't even exceed the payments of the SUV and the Sentra together"...I'm assuming that insurance is a wash between trading in 2 cars for 1 (even if the RX7 is only liability)....

Now, if all else fails, go buy the damn car...take it home to her and tell her you got "closed" by the salesman...You'll be sleeping on the couch for a few days, maybe weeks, but that will give you a reason to go out into the garage and admire the car every night until she lets you back into the room again...you're a man, grow some balls...

You're living the American dream: Living in debt. You will always have 2 payments in your life: a house note and a car note...so you might as well get what you want...

You'd be amazed how those lines have worked for me to close customers...

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that just made me laugh how you worded that.

enough jibber jabber, whats the update

Male genitals now mounted on plaque in trophy room.....:tup:

damn, he accepted defeat....lol

Buy the car that you want to dive that what I did. Does our wife drive car of her choice?

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Hey, are you busy this weekend? I could use your help, ha ha ha. Excellent points. I need to regroup and try again later this week. Boy, rough crowd here but I asked. Some of the responses are pretty funny but all hit the mark. What I am going to try and make her understand is that my 86' Rx7 is going to get more and more costlier to keep on the road. I had a new clutch put in 2 years ago ($800 bucks) and a new exhaust system last year ($400 bucks) and there will be more. When I slid into the seat of that red Z, I knew it was me. The dealer tried to talk me into a cheaper 2 door Altima coupe as a substitute and I said no. Then they tried to sell me a 2008 RX8. I have had 6 Rx7's and the Z is closer to a real sports car and, like I said, it is me. For those who have responded, thanks, I owe you. As far as an update, I owe you that too. Let me work on how to approach this over the week and I will get back with you hopefully with my genitalia restored.

Glad you took it in good humor.....

Show her where you are on the RX7 repair curve. Might be a little more ammo for ya. Good luck!

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Tough Room is right...lol

Yes, if you want to do the job 100% right you give her two black eyes to let her know she did something wrong, break both her arms so she can't retaliate, break both her legs so she can't run away, and crack her in the jaw so she can't speak to tell anyone what happened.

If you knew you would always be weaker than 50% of the population no matter what you did, and thus subject to what they wanted physically, how funny would that be to you?

Seriously - I'm sure it's supposed to be a joke, but that kind of comment sucks. It sucks if you want women to feel comfortable on this site, and it sucks to all the loser guys who think they are cool because they can beat up on a woman.

I call unfunny.

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Why? I hope she'd do the same thing to me if I tried to tell her what to do with her own hard earned money, and I'd deserve it too.

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I figured it was joke, but I guess it wasn't.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't think we should be supporting spousal abuse here...:gtfo2:

It is a joke. I don't know you took any of this seriously. The point is that if I did something like that its a ******** move and I deserve for her to get angry at me or something if I told her what to do with her money.

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Ok, for those of us that can't separate the figurative from the literal:

If she tries to dictate how I spend money that I earn, I should be somewhat upset by this and do what I want with my money. Conversely, if I pull the same move on her, I would really hope that she had the courage to call me out on it and get mad at me.

Easier to understand?

English is apparently hard... But from what I got out that, you are saying that if your wife (or anyone for that matter) tells you what you should or shouldn't do with your money... its okay to assault them.

You don't joke about abusing women!

...Go back to your trailer :gtfo2:

Quite a "partnership" you have there......:shakes head:

Not really look at post 102.

Why would it be bad for her to call me out if I try to dictate how she can spend her money?

alright guys lets let this go.. out of lines but lets not turn this into a flame..

keep us updated OP

Explaining yourself doesn't take away from the fact that you condoned domestic violence. Joke it may be, but that was pretty damn tasteless. Can't we all just delete these violence posts and move along...

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I LOVE new cars...I'd rather have a new, high-performance sports car than a house but I'm a grown up and I know that what I need has to come before what I want.

Your wife is right; maybe for the wrong reasons but she is right.

If you have to have a payment on a vehicle then you really can't afford it.

Sell your RX7 and sell your SUV and, if necessary take out a small loan so that you can pay off the SUV and have enough left over that you can buy a beater car that will get you by for a year or two...save the 500 to 600 a month you would be making in payments and then when you have enough to afford a good, used 350 (or something as fun); buy it for cash then keep saving...about two cycles of this is all you'll need to walk in and buy a new 370 or something similar for cash.

The worst vehicle accidents happen on the showroom floor.

OP, I agree with what a few others have said here regarding keeping your wife in a car she enjoys just as much as a car that you enjoy yourself. My wife drive's the car that she'd want to be driving even if we made twice as much money as we do, and because of that, I don't get much **** when I do the same.

we've been married 3 years and I've driven 5 cars in that time, slowly upgrading until I could get my hands on the 370. She's currently in a 2010 equinox and couldn't be happier.

However, getting yourself upside-down in another car after trading in this pathfinder isn't a good idea. With no money down, and getting 5k or so less than you owe on the car is going to keep you upside-down on the Z for nearly it's entire financing period. You're going to end up carrying that debt over and over again on new cars and it's going to get worse and worse. Sell the pathfinder privately, pay off anymore you owe after selling it, and drive the RX7 around for a while to save up a down payment on the Z.

and when you're done with the RX-7, send me pics! i'm serious about buying it off of you :) FC body is my favorite

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I totally have a picture of my dog trying to lick peanut butter off of a spoon that would be 10x better for that caption, will edit with the picture when I find it!

EDIT, here is that picture of my dog eating peanut butter off a spoon and crossing her eyes to make sure she gets it all:

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yeah its best that we give suggestions and ideas i see no real point in us calling the op names or simply telling him to grow a pair, no one knows his situation.

either way i agree u should do what u want with ur own money but once ur married, depending on the spouse and what u guys agree with should be the ultimate choice, is what i think

It all depends on how you want to play with her and what gear and where your foot is on that gas. You can make her scream in the corners if you want to. :tup:

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Read!
Every state in the union has a law like this one!

California Penal Code 273.5
273.5. (a) Any person who willfully inflicts upon a person who is
his or her spouse, former spouse, cohabitant, former cohabitant, or
the mother or father of his or her child, corporal injury resulting
in a traumatic condition, is guilty of a felony, and upon conviction
thereof shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for
two, three, or four years, or in a county jail for not more than one
year, or by a fine of up to six thousand dollars ($6,000) or by both
that fine and imprisonment.
(b) Holding oneself out to be the husband or wife of the person
with whom one is cohabiting is not necessary to constitute
cohabitation as the term is used in this section.
(c) As used in this section, "traumatic condition" means a
condition of the body, such as a wound or external or internal
injury, whether of a minor or serious nature, caused by a physical
force.
(d) For the purpose of this section, a person shall be considered
the father or mother of another person's child if the alleged male
parent is presumed the natural father under Sections 7611 and 7612 of
the Family Code.
(e) (1) Any person convicted of violating this section for acts
occurring within seven years of a previous conviction under
subdivision (a), or subdivision (d) of Section 243, or Section 243.4,
244, 244.5, or 245, shall be punished by imprisonment in a county
jail for not more than one year, or by imprisonment in the state
prison for two, four, or five years, or by both imprisonment and a
fine of up to ten thousand dollars ($10,000).
(2) Any person convicted of a violation of this section for acts
occurring within seven years of a previous conviction under
subdivision (e) of Section 243 shall be punished by imprisonment in
the state prison for two, three, or four years, or in a county jail
for not more than one year, or by a fine of up to ten thousand
dollars ($10,000), or by both that imprisonment and fine.
(f) If probation is granted to any person convicted under
subdivision (a), the court shall impose probation consistent with the
provisions of Section 1203.097.
(g) If probation is granted, or the execution or imposition of a
sentence is suspended, for any defendant convicted under subdivision
(a) who has been convicted of any prior offense specified in
subdivision (e), the court shall impose one of the following
conditions of probation:
(1) If the defendant has suffered one prior conviction within the
previous seven years for a violation of any offense specified in
subdivision (e), it shall be a condition thereof, in addition to the
provisions contained in Section 1203.097, that he or she be
imprisoned in a county jail for not less than 15 days.
(2) If the defendant has suffered two or more prior convictions
within the previous seven years for a violation of any offense
specified in subdivision (e), it shall be a condition of probation,
in addition to the provisions contained in Section 1203.097, that he
or she be imprisoned in a county jail for not less than 60 days.
(3) The court, upon a showing of good cause, may find that the
mandatory imprisonment required by this subdivision shall not be
imposed and shall state on the record its reasons for finding good
cause.
(h) If probation is granted upon conviction of a violation of
subdivision (a), the conditions of probation may include, consistent
with the terms of probation imposed pursuant to Section 1203.097, in
lieu of a fine, one or both of the following requirements:
(1) That the defendant make payments to a battered women's
shelter, up to a maximum of five thousand dollars ($5,000), pursuant
to Section 1203.097.
(2) That the defendant reimburse the victim for reasonable costs
of counseling and other reasonable expenses that the court finds are
the direct result of the defendant's offense.
For any order to pay a fine, make payments to a battered women's
shelter, or pay restitution as a condition of probation under this
subdivision, the court shall make a determination of the defendant's
ability to pay. In no event shall any order to make payments to a
battered women's shelter be made if it would impair the ability of
the defendant to pay direct restitution to the victim or
court-ordered child support. Where the injury to a married person is
caused in whole or in part by the criminal acts of his or her spouse
in violation of this section, the community property may not be used
to discharge the liability of the offending spouse for restitution to
the injured spouse, required by Section 1203.04, as operative on or
before August 2, 1995, or Section 1202.4, or to a shelter for costs
with regard to the injured spouse and dependents, required by this
section, until all separate property of the offending spouse is
exhausted.
(i) Upon conviction under subdivision (a), the sentencing court
shall also consider issuing an order restraining the defendant from
any contact with the victim, which may be valid for up to 10 years,
as determined by the court. It is the intent of the Legislature that
the length of any restraining order be based upon the seriousness of
the facts before the court, the probability of future violations, and
the safety of the victim and his or her immediate family. This
protective order may be issued by the court whether the defendant is
sentenced to state prison, county jail, or if imposition of sentence
is suspended and the defendant is placed on probation.

omg people are way too sensitive. It was a joke anyone could tell that. Why do people have to crusade about every issue? Geezus I am so sick of the thin skinned attitudes that are so prevalent. Just let it go already. I guess people have it so easy in their lives that their only worry is about insensitive jokes being told on the internet. I'll tell you what why not donate some money to abused women and stop whining about what someone posted if you're so concerned about it?

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i see a possible thread lock if this bad weather doesnt dissipate...

very probably true...