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ZackMorris 05-21-2014 02:23 PM

Anyone close to Pittsburgh wanna drive my Z?
 
I have had the car for about a month now.

I wear steel toe boots almost always and thats where my question comes from.

my previous car was a 2010 civic si which was the first manual trans car i ever drove.

when i drive the z starting at a light it seems like its hard for me to find that sweet spot to get into first and also going into second seems a little rough. ive never experienced what a "bad clutch" feels like an need some help.

Im looking for someone around the pittsburgh area that knows about this car or cars in general to take mine for a ride and tell me if you think somethings not right.

Im 24 and live around the canonsburg/peters twp area.
I have no interest in killing raping or robbing you.

Chuck33079 05-21-2014 02:31 PM

Have you pulled out the clutch helper spring? If not, try that first.

ZackMorris 05-21-2014 02:40 PM

thats kinda why im looking for someone to help me.

i have no clue what that is or where to find it.

i know most info can be found online or youtube but i just dont have the patience to do that i rather trust someone who has experience. esp with a car like the 370

Chuck33079 05-21-2014 02:42 PM

It takes ten minutes and a pair of pliers. There's several walkthroughs here.

kenchan 05-21-2014 02:43 PM

you try posting over in your region? might get more hits that way?

jaytirbhaw 05-21-2014 02:44 PM

This is a common problem for 1st time drivers of the Z. It's transmission has a different feel compared to what most manual drivers are used too.

Research the helper spring mod it will help, and if you really want to improve it check out the "RJM CLUTCH PEDAL"

Haboob 05-21-2014 02:50 PM

Here's the thread:

http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...er-spring.html

Honestly, it's really easy. I was even able to do it. :tup:

kenchan 05-21-2014 03:12 PM

and haboob is 100yrs old.... :ugh:

enkei2k 05-21-2014 03:20 PM

I was going to do this but in that thread they mentioned a bit more play with the spring removed so I was kinda turned off by that :(

Haboob 05-21-2014 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enkei2k (Post 2828403)
I was going to do this but in that thread they mentioned a bit more play with the spring removed so I was kinda turned off by that :(

I don't think that's true, but I'll test it in an hour or so when I head out and report back (hopefully I remember, since I am 100yrs old :().

Chuck33079 05-21-2014 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enkei2k (Post 2828403)
I was going to do this but in that thread they mentioned a bit more play with the spring removed so I was kinda turned off by that :(

The "slop" is the first half inch or so. Not really noticeable. Absolutely not a reason to not pull out the spring. If it bothers you track down the softer replacement, but I can't imagine it being that annoying.

7speed 05-21-2014 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enkei2k (Post 2828403)
I was going to do this but in that thread they mentioned a bit more play with the spring removed so I was kinda turned off by that :(

You probably won't even be able to tell. Mine doesn't feel like I have any slack, actually seems like my clutch pedal is a little lower at top of arch.

Only negative is a little vibration if your holding your foot lightly over the pedal.

Haboob 05-21-2014 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7speed (Post 2828437)
You probably won't even be able to tell. Mine doesn't feel like I have any slack, actually seems like my clutch pedal is a little lower at top of arch.

Only negative is a little vibration if your holding your foot lightly over the pedal.

I don't keep my foot anywhere near the pedal unless it's time to shift, so I wouldn't know if there's a vibration.

If there is slack, Enkei, it's not even noticeable really. But, I'm still gonna check on it here when I leave.

Drex 05-21-2014 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZackMorris (Post 2828327)
I have no interest in killing raping or robbing you.

damn, i was really hoping for some killing raping or robbing :icon17::p

but, do listen to the other posters, the clutch helper spring mod helps a lot. ive heard good things about the rjm clutch pedal too.

if you are really worried about doing the helper spring yourself, i bet you can take the car to a shop and get it done with some explanation, but they'll probably charge you for labor.

Magic Bus 05-21-2014 07:53 PM

Went from stock spring to lighter spring and the improvement is noticeable. My clutch did not have play at the top with the lighter spring.

Then went on to rjm clutch pedal and there was a little more improvement, rjm pedal does have play at the top and it is explained in the instructions.

It's not difficult to change the springs, rjm pedal is a little more difficult to change. The problem is squeezing yourself under there to do the work! I'm not messing with my clutch pedal anymore.

Zbrah 05-21-2014 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2828414)
The "slop" is the first half inch or so. Not really noticeable. Absolutely not a reason to not pull out the spring. If it bothers you track down the softer replacement, but I can't imagine it being that annoying.

:iagree: do this asap, best mod you will do to your car IMO, drives 100% better after spring is swapped out to century spring.

madwi 05-21-2014 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enkei2k (Post 2828403)
I was going to do this but in that thread they mentioned a bit more play with the spring removed so I was kinda turned off by that :(

I didn't notice any real difference with the spring removed. YMMV.

Haboob 05-22-2014 08:02 AM

If you really pay attention, there's minor slack. Like, a few millimeters. You really don't notice it when you're driving. It was difficult to even feel the slack.

Nothing worth NOT doing this mod though.

Joepro 05-22-2014 12:46 PM

get a long stretch of road go to 5th gear and tromp it and see if the clutch slips. I have driven sticks for years and with the OEM flywheel this car is a pain to drive from 1st to second, and second gear is crap in these cars, they hold power, but dang they are clunky, and not to mention our CSC issues... I want an s2k trans swap ;)

Footloose301 05-22-2014 04:18 PM

I was going to help you out but if I'm not going to get raped then it's not worth my time.

RoyaltyB 05-23-2014 08:43 PM

Maybe one question is, do you experience the same issue when wearing sneakers or something that will give you better feel? If you are def listen to the others. If you haven't tried, try with non-steel toe boots. And if the issue isn't persisting I would recommend wearing different shoes when driving. That's my non-mechanical answer since I am not mechanically inclined :)

SteveBad 05-23-2014 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2828341)
Have you pulled out the clutch helper spring? If not, try that first.

100 percent agree! :iagree:

MasterD 06-01-2014 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joepro (Post 2829539)
get a long stretch of road go to 5th gear and tromp it and see if the clutch slips. I have driven sticks for years and with the OEM flywheel this car is a pain to drive from 1st to second, and second gear is crap in these cars, they hold power, but dang they are clunky, and not to mention our CSC issues... I want an s2k trans swap ;)

Totally agree! This is one of the issues I have with the Z - how can I fix this problem? The 1st and 2nd gears are really tacky and annoying.

3.7 ZPA 06-02-2014 11:35 AM

I just put in the lighter helper spring yesterday. There is a big difference in feel. It actually feels like a normal clutch now, and no more "clunkiness." Even with the lighter spring, there is a small amount of play at the top, but it doesn't bother me in the least. The 1-2 shift is much easier now, and I found that I have to alter my way of driving a bit, because I was used to the ridiculous clutch feel.

In other words, do it.

Akurei 06-02-2014 02:37 PM

Ya'll are picky. I'm gonna hate the csc failure part, otherwise I already got use to the clutch in 2 months, daily driving of course. I still don't like how the clutch engagement is right at the top at pedal height but I adjusted and have no problems. I am not perfectly shifting every time but I improved way more than when I first bought the car. Unless the mod spring or removing the spring helps you shift faster and smoother at the same time when DD, I'm fine as is

Drex 06-02-2014 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akurei (Post 2843702)
Ya'll are picky. I'm gonna hate the csc failure part, otherwise I already got use to the clutch in 2 months, daily driving of course. I still don't like how the clutch engagement is right at the top at pedal height but I adjusted and have no problems. I am not perfectly shifting every time but I improved way more than when I first bought the car. Unless the mod spring or removing the spring helps you shift faster and smoother at the same time when DD, I'm fine as is

it does imo

3.7 ZPA 06-02-2014 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akurei (Post 2843702)
Ya'll are picky. I'm gonna hate the csc failure part, otherwise I already got use to the clutch in 2 months, daily driving of course. I still don't like how the clutch engagement is right at the top at pedal height but I adjusted and have no problems. I am not perfectly shifting every time but I improved way more than when I first bought the car. Unless the mod spring or removing the spring helps you shift faster and smoother at the same time when DD, I'm fine as is

I felt the same way. Seriously, though...I spent 20 bucks and 15 minutes to make the duration of my ownership of this car a lot more fun. Plus, it does help you shift a bit faster.

Akurei 06-02-2014 08:30 PM

Does any tampering has any affiliation with CSC failure or increased failure? Just wondering the statistics of those who tampered with their clutch compared to those who left theirs stock.

Akurei 06-02-2014 09:54 PM

Well, I'm trying to order one right now. Since it is only $20's. Guess I'll find out myself


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