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Nargrakhan 05-07-2014 06:37 PM

Question about Nismo Front Fascia
 
Hello. I was hoping the community could help answer a question for me.

I own a 2014 370Z Touring Coupe. I'm seriously thinking about converting the exterior to be the full NISMO body design.

There is something I wish to consider first however... My 370Z also has the aerodynamic option, so there is a black plastic "air dam" that runs under the entire length of the front bumper. I believe the official name for it is Front Chin Spoiler. From time to time, when backing out my driveway, I've slightly scraped this plastic part on the driveway apron. Maybe 2 centimeters of it at most... and only the lowermost "fangs" area of it. At no time does the actual painted bumper ever come anywhere near the driveway.

Would the NISMO Front Fascia be in danger of scraping my driveway if the current Front Chin Spoiler does it a little? Or is the NISMO part high enough to not worry about it? Just for the record, I do not have the Z "lowered" (and have no intention to ever do it).

If worst comes to worst, I could have my driveway apron redone before doing the NISMO conversion, but I thought I should ask first.

Thank you in advance for the input.

NissanGuy23 05-07-2014 07:03 PM

I just measured my car and the lowest part of the splitter, on the two spots below the headlights, its 4 and 3/8" off the ground. The tip of the splitter sticks out 35.5" past the center of the wheel.

wstar 05-07-2014 07:15 PM

I'm not sure if you can buy the Nismo bodywork without a matching VIN for repair parts, although maybe you could luck out at a junkyard off of cars wrecked at just one end. Keep in mind it's not just the bumper itself that's different in the front. To convert the front you have to convert the undertray stuff beneath the engine bay as well, and probably several other miscellaneous related bits.

Nargrakhan 05-07-2014 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NissanGuy23 (Post 2810099)
I just measured my car and the lowest part of the splitter, on the two spots below the headlights, its 4 and 3/8" off the ground. The tip of the splitter sticks out 35.5" past the center of the wheel.

Thank you! That's exactly the info I needed. :)

Hmm... the lowest part of the air dam is currently 4 and 1/2" off the ground... so it's probably best to just play it safe and get my driveway apron redone first. No point in cheapening out on an $800 concrete job, when I'm going to spend over five times that much for the conversion.



Quote:

Originally Posted by wstar (Post 2810105)
I'm not sure if you can buy the Nismo bodywork without a matching VIN for repair parts, although maybe you could luck out at a junkyard off of cars wrecked at just one end. Keep in mind it's not just the bumper itself that's different in the front. To convert the front you have to convert the undertray stuff beneath the engine bay as well, and probably several other miscellaneous related bits.

Yea. There's a lot of parts swapping involved, somewhere in the ballpark of $4000 worth with shipping and whatnot. I've also got those DRL that the NISMO doesn't, so that's gotta be removed as well.

However the price is still cheaper than something like a VeilSide... and I believe the OEM NISMO parts are sturdier than the FRP of most aftermarket bodykits (and doesn't use 3M tape).

I really disliked the interior of the NISMO, so I didn't get one... but I really, really like it's exterior. I've saved up some disposable cash over the months, and figured I'd spoil myself (and the Z) with something like this.

forza370z 05-07-2014 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wstar (Post 2810105)
I'm not sure if you can buy the Nismo bodywork without a matching VIN for repair parts, although maybe you could luck out at a junkyard off of cars wrecked at just one end. Keep in mind it's not just the bumper itself that's different in the front. To convert the front you have to convert the undertray stuff beneath the engine bay as well, and probably several other miscellaneous related bits.

Very interesting. I didn't know you can't get the nismo parts without the vin match. I just ordered nismo front bumper to replace my old one. But I forgot if the seller asked me about the vin number or not. Lol. Probably didn't. But I am sure one of the Nissan dealership asked my vin tho.

forza370z 05-07-2014 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Nargrakhan (Post 2810130)
Thank you! That's exactly the info I needed. :)

Hmm... the lowest part of the air dam is currently 4 and 1/2" off the ground... so it's probably best to just play it safe and get my driveway apron redone first. No point in cheapening out on an $800 concrete job, when I'm going to spend over five times that much for the conversion.





Yea. There's a lot of parts swapping involved, somewhere in the ballpark of $4000 worth with shipping and whatnot. I've also got those DRL that the NISMO doesn't, so that's gotta be removed as well.

However the price is still cheaper than something like a VeilSide... and I believe the OEM NISMO parts are sturdier than the FRP of most aftermarket bodykits (and doesn't use 3M tape).

I really disliked the interior of the NISMO, so I didn't get one... but I really, really like it's exterior. I've saved up some disposable cash over the months, and figured I'd spoil myself (and the Z) with something like this.

Yes Nismo conversion is very costly. Not sure if you are interested in used or slightly damaged new nismo front bumper. It's possible I will have 2 nismo front for sale.

Amuse370z 05-07-2014 11:40 PM

Maybe look into the Ings+1 kit

http://www.rayswheels.co.jp/DB/wheel...ery/G27_19.jpg

DavidZ370 05-08-2014 12:03 AM

Powerhouse kit is nicer imo

OldFart 05-08-2014 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by forza370z (Post 2810213)
Very interesting. I didn't know you can't get the nismo parts without the vin match. I just ordered nismo front bumper to replace my old one. But I forgot if the seller asked me about the vin number or not. Lol. Probably didn't. But I am sure one of the Nissan dealership asked my vin tho.

Hmmm, gathering my parts the dealerships had no problem accepting my cash for Nismo stuff.

Zteve 05-08-2014 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wstar (Post 2810105)
I'm not sure if you can buy the Nismo bodywork without a matching VIN for repair parts, although maybe you could luck out at a junkyard off of cars wrecked at just one end. Keep in mind it's not just the bumper itself that's different in the front. To convert the front you have to convert the undertray stuff beneath the engine bay as well, and probably several other miscellaneous related bits.


NISMO Z34 Full Aero Package

DEpointfive0 05-08-2014 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wstar (Post 2810105)
I'm not sure if you can buy the Nismo bodywork without a matching VIN for repair parts, although maybe you could luck out at a junkyard off of cars wrecked at just one end. Keep in mind it's not just the bumper itself that's different in the front. To convert the front you have to convert the undertray stuff beneath the engine bay as well, and probably several other miscellaneous related bits.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldFart (Post 2810360)
Hmmm, gathering my parts the dealerships had no problem accepting my cash for Nismo stuff.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zteve (Post 2810517)

WStar is correct. You need a VIN to buy Nismo parts, but I bet if you went to a dealer they wouldn't mind using the VIN off the car on the floor or googling a VIN

2011 Nismo#91 05-08-2014 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2810530)
WStar is correct. You need a VIN to buy Nismo parts, but I bet if you went to a dealer they wouldn't mind using the VIN off the car on the floor or googling a VIN

Apparently Ebay just gives VIN's out for free,
2014 Nissan 370Z 2dr Cpe Manual NISMO
VIN#: JN1AZ4EH5EM630146

theDreamer 05-08-2014 08:55 AM

When I got my rear bumper hit the dealership allowed me to replace with a Nismo OEM rear.
Not sure how they did it but they said it was no problem, they have also done front bumper for others also that do not own a Nismo.

forza370z 05-08-2014 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2810530)
WStar is correct. You need a VIN to buy Nismo parts, but I bet if you went to a dealer they wouldn't mind using the VIN off the car on the floor or googling a VIN

So the vin does tell you if it's a nismo or not?

forza370z 05-08-2014 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2810656)
When I got my rear bumper hit the dealership allowed me to replace with a Nismo OEM rear.
Not sure how they did it but they said it was no problem, they have also done front bumper for others also that do not own a Nismo.

Yup I've seen the dealer install oem nismo body parts for a non-nismo.

DEpointfive0 05-08-2014 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 (Post 2810652)
Apparently Ebay just gives VIN's out for free,
2014 Nissan 370Z 2dr Cpe Manual NISMO
VIN#: JN1AZ4EH5EM630146

:icon18: Exactly

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2810656)
When I got my rear bumper hit the dealership allowed me to replace with a Nismo OEM rear.
Not sure how they did it but they said it was no problem, they have also done front bumper for others also that do not own a Nismo.

They eBay'd one, lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by forza370z (Post 2810657)
So the vin does tell you if it's a nismo or not?

Yessir

gurneyeagle 05-08-2014 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2810656)
When I got my rear bumper hit the dealership allowed me to replace with a Nismo OEM rear.
Not sure how they did it but they said it was no problem, they have also done front bumper for others also that do not own a Nismo.

You don't need a Nismo VIN to buy Nismo parts. I have a full front bumper conversion and never had to submit a VIN.

tjlazer probably has the best journal on the conversion.

http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...ey-blue-z.html

Nargrakhan 05-08-2014 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amuse370z (Post 2810343)

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidZ370 (Post 2810354)
Powerhouse kit is nicer imo


I've seen the Powerhouse Amuse bodykit, but I've always wondered something about it... Photos I've seen, seem to indicate it's lower than the NISMO's. Maybe that's because the car photo's I've seen, are also lowered vehicles.

Just out of curiosity: if the Z isn't lowered, how low is the lowest part of that body kit from the ground?

Nargrakhan 05-08-2014 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amuse370z (Post 2810343)
Maybe look into the Ings+1 kit

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidZ370 (Post 2810354)
Powerhouse kit is nicer imo


I've seen the Powerhouse Amuse bodykit, but I've always wondered something about it... Photos I've seen, seem to indicate it's lower than the NISMO's. Maybe that's because the car photo's I've seen, are also lowered vehicles.

Just out of curiosity: if the Z isn't lowered, how low is the lowest part of that body kit from the ground?

gbrettin 05-08-2014 07:17 PM

I have the Nismo front conversion on my Z and had it done at the dealer. They didn't try matching a VIN or anything that I know of.

Also, buy the Zspeed Nismo under tray and save a few bucks there.
ZSpeed 2009-2012 NISMO 370Z Aluminum Under Pan Diffuser

Nismo358 05-12-2014 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nargrakhan (Post 2811312)
I've seen the Powerhouse Amuse bodykit, but I've always wondered something about it... Photos I've seen, seem to indicate it's lower than the NISMO's. Maybe that's because the car photo's I've seen, are also lowered vehicles.



Just out of curiosity: if the Z isn't lowered, how low is the lowest part of that body kit from the ground?


I want that F1 rear light on my Nismo. Does anyone know the process or how to get one and install it? Love that thing!

YzGyz 05-12-2014 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nargrakhan (Post 2811313)
I've seen the Powerhouse Amuse bodykit, but I've always wondered something about it... Photos I've seen, seem to indicate it's lower than the NISMO's. Maybe that's because the car photo's I've seen, are also lowered vehicles.

Just out of curiosity: if the Z isn't lowered, how low is the lowest part of that body kit from the ground?

As far as I'm concern, the front is the part that you should be concerned most about height wise. The front end is the area that gets abused the most from bums and dips in the road, driveway, ramps and so on.

Anyhoo, for your amusement and to fill your curiosity, I just went out and crawled around in my driveways trying my best to take come measurement/pictures for you. It was hard to take a level shot to get an accurate picture of the measurement but you get the idea. It's hard doing it alone.

front bumper just to show that it start out high then tapers down as it goes towards the rear
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...psa713658c.jpg/IMG_20140512_093218_zps23137342.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

front bumper/lip it starts to taper around 6 3/8''
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...ps4c6c92dc.jpg

lowest part of the undershroud about 1' and a little more in form the front lip
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...ps6d3c094d.jpg

left driver side of the bumper in front of the wheel well
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...ps712c6b63.jpg

left side rocker to show the profile
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...ps28153b5d.jpg

left rocker behind the left front tire
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...psb352a77e.jpg

left rocker in front of rear tire
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...ps31e6ce44.jpg

rear left bumper
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...psc20b8b5b.jpg

muffler
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...ps23137342.jpg

better muffler measurement shot
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...ps9b6adfa1.jpg

exhaust pipe connecting to the muffler ( you can see it in the pic above and how low it sit)
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...ps50598557.jpg

YzGyz

gurneyeagle 05-12-2014 02:49 PM

I've found the biggest source of scraping isn't necessarily the height of the front end, but the length of the front end. It is long and it is flat.

If you look at other cars; i.e. a Porsche, they actually taper up a bit from the wheel well forward.

With the regular front bumper, I could pull out of my very steep driveway; no such luck with the Nismo bumper. I still scrape a bit when I back out at a severe angle.

YzGyz 05-12-2014 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gurneyeagle (Post 2815732)
I've found the biggest source of scraping isn't necessarily the height of the front end, but the length of the front end. It is long and it is flat.

If you look at other cars; i.e. a Porsche, they actually taper up a bit from the wheel well forward.

With the regular front bumper, I could pull out of my very steep driveway; no such luck with the Nismo bumper. I still scrape a bit when I back out at a severe angle.

Yes,the front end is long. The end does taper a little as you can see in the pics. I take it slow up and down my driveway. My driveway isn't even steep. Our driveway are those tapered semi rounded ones so there it's the same curve from driveways to grass area that divide our houses. I cut on the grass and take a big and wide angle out. Spare the front end from gouges, the grass can die as sacrifice! :driving:

tjlazer 05-16-2014 11:56 PM

Yes you will scrape.

z34corey 05-29-2014 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gbrettin (Post 2811330)
I have the Nismo front conversion on my Z and had it done at the dealer. They didn't try matching a VIN or anything that I know of.

Also, buy the Zspeed Nismo under tray and save a few bucks there.
ZSpeed 2009-2012 NISMO 370Z Aluminum Under Pan Diffuser


I have a 2013 touring sport and am looking to buy the full Nismo conversion from Z1. I'm hoping Nissan will install the parts, but I don't have my hopes up. I noticed the ZSpeed under pan says it's for a 2009-2012 Z. Correct my if I'm wrong, but isn't the 2013 Nismo body exactly the same as the previous years?


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Nargrakhan 05-29-2014 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370zcorey (Post 2838031)
I have a 2013 touring sport and am looking to buy the full Nismo conversion from Z1. I'm hoping Nissan will install the parts, but I don't have my hopes up. I noticed the ZSpeed under pan says it's for a 2009-2012 Z. Correct my if I'm wrong, but isn't the 2013 Nismo body exactly the same as the previous years?


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I think they added the front daytime running lights, starting with the 2013 and 2014 models. So the old NISMO front will need those unhooked.

The new 2015 NISMO front now has the running lights (but horizontal instead of vertical).

Cell 05-29-2014 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nargrakhan (Post 2810130)
Thank you! That's exactly the info I needed. :)

Hmm... the lowest part of the air dam is currently 4 and 1/2" off the ground... so it's probably best to just play it safe and get my driveway apron redone first. No point in cheapening out on an $800 concrete job, when I'm going to spend over five times that much for the conversion.





Yea. There's a lot of parts swapping involved, somewhere in the ballpark of $4000 worth with shipping and whatnot. I've also got those DRL that the NISMO doesn't, so that's gotta be removed as well.

However the price is still cheaper than something like a VeilSide... and I believe the OEM NISMO parts are sturdier than the FRP of most aftermarket bodykits (and doesn't use 3M tape).

I really disliked the interior of the NISMO, so I didn't get one... but I really, really like it's exterior. I've saved up some disposable cash over the months, and figured I'd spoil myself (and the Z) with something like this.


You should of just bought a nismo. Even a slightly used one would of been good too.

When I bought my nismo, I got it for 5k over a base+sport. That's just 1k more compared to what you are pricing it at. Only thing is I also get the full package, like the rims. suspension, nismo stitching, etc.

Not sure how much nismos go for now though.

Nargrakhan 05-29-2014 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cell (Post 2839220)
You should of just bought a nismo. Even a slightly used one would of been good too.

Actually, that's what I'm going to do now. The upcoming 2015 version. I originally made this post before it was revealed. Now I'm just going to trade-in the one I have now.


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