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fritz 03-22-2014 10:29 AM

Nissan steps up to the plate:
 
Nissan steps up to the plate:

10 Aug 2010. Nissan sold a 370Z “MY09” to its distributor “Garatge Sport” (sic)
18 Aug 2010 Garatge Sport sold and matriculated it as “manufactured in 2010”
….and rudely rejected two valid warranty claims (VVEL relay and steering lock)… a clue to bigger problems.

10 Jan 2014 Nissan took back the car at the price I paid.
Actually the car had been made in May 2009.

Financially I am satisfied. The years of digging for hidden documents, the disbelief, the lies and attempts to tarnish my name with dealership technobabble were never worth it.
Sample CEO lawyer ******** “The year of manufacture is date of import”.

The “MYxx” (model year 2009 here) code was motor industry usage for 10 years.
The distributor CEO “did not know the age” and “did not know” the engine number either.
The engine number is also on that 10 Aug 2010 invoice # ESPRO12697
The customs import document stated “Euro4”. “Euro4” ended end August 2009 on 370Z!

As a Motor Industry R&D veteran I can suss out potential fraud. Prove it? Legally? The average Joe has no hope.

Nissan has kindly written an apology. Its dealership CEO stonewalls. Apologise? No way.
(But the local trucks/commercial Nissan dealer is AOK!)


Fritz [One of 2 posts. The other re VVEL is a DIY]

DEpointfive0 03-22-2014 10:33 AM

What?

Got_Z 03-22-2014 10:38 AM

What the f*ck did I just read....


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wstar 03-22-2014 10:40 AM

I'm guessing it means some shady company took delivery of an '09, dropped a '10 engine in it to fix some issue (who knows? collision, engine failure?), then sold the car as a 2010. Then they rejected warranty claims on VVEL relay and steering lock (somehow related to it being a supposedly-2010 but those parts came from a 2009 and/or the warranty/recall info was only for 2009? No idea.). Then the poster eventually figured out he actually has an '09 car.

Got_Z 03-22-2014 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wstar (Post 2748539)
I'm guessing it means some shady company took delivery of an '09, dropped a '10 engine in it to fix some issue (who knows? collision, engine failure?), then sold the car as a 2010. Then they rejected warranty claims on VVEL relay and steering lock (somehow related to it being a supposedly-2010 but those parts came from a 2009 and/or the warranty/recall info was only for 2009? No idea.). Then the poster eventually figured out he actually has an '09 car.


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onzedge 03-22-2014 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2748531)
What?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Got_Z (Post 2748535)
What the f*ck did I just read....


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:icon17:

Z_ealot 03-22-2014 11:07 AM

what i got out of it was that dealership he bought it from fraudulently sold him a 2010 model year Z when in actuality it was an 09 and now nissan stepped up and bought the car back from him to correct the issue and the dealership where he bought it from are still being dicks and didnt even offer an apology.

to the OP, sorry about your troubles, but the dealership is not owned by nissan and is just another franchise owner. nissan can do very little to alter their business practices other than to downgrade them on their recommended dealers list...that or pull their franchise license now that i think about it lol

kenchan 03-22-2014 11:48 AM

fritz- are you going to stick around?

you are the pioneer who found the first permanent solution to the steering lock problem (your brown wire cut approach). :tup: that was then later followed by the fuse pull by another member who was inspired by your finding.

if you are leaving, thanks again for all the help!! and good luck to you. :tup:

Drakonis GTR 03-22-2014 11:53 AM

Well fritz, I'm glad everything worked out for you. Any plans on what you are picking up to replace the Z?

fritz 03-23-2014 10:16 AM

Many thanks, Kenchan & co!

I’ll “stick around”. 370Z preferred as I know it.
My ex-370Z is a good car for some-one (me!) but, once registered (plated) it seems impossible (even for the manufacturer/dealer!) to front up to bureaucracy and say “We got the year wrong”.

The dealer CEO is the President of the local Vehicle Importers Association, and “well known”. That's "Clout", neh?

Wstar, the Amateur Clown:
...makes hilarity out of extreme simplicity. Why not? Best read my post.

Z_ealot :
Nissan took up their responsibilities. They can even say “sorry” for overlooking the increasingly improbable.
“Blame the dealer” is big-biz propaganda propounded by huge legal “teams”. Don’t buy it.
….If you buy a lemon: under this propaganda interpretation the dealer’s to blame: not exactly what Magnusson/Moss had in mind! (Not that that law is relevant here).

Fritz

Elan 03-25-2014 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fritz (Post 2749682)
Many thanks, Kenchan & co!

I’ll “stick around”. 370Z preferred as I know it.
My ex-370Z is a good car for some-one (me!) but, once registered (plated) it seems impossible (even for the manufacturer/dealer!) to front up to bureaucracy and say “We got the year wrong”.

The dealer CEO is the President of the local Vehicle Importers Association, and “well known”. That's "Clout", neh?

Wstar, the Amateur Clown:
...makes hilarity out of extreme simplicity. Why not? Best read my post.

Z_ealot :
Nissan took up their responsibilities. They can even say “sorry” for overlooking the increasingly improbable.
“Blame the dealer” is big-biz propaganda propounded by huge legal “teams”. Don’t buy it.
….If you buy a lemon: under this propaganda interpretation the dealer’s to blame: not exactly what Magnusson/Moss had in mind! (Not that that law is relevant here).

Fritz

I don't even... :confused:

Haboob 03-25-2014 09:14 AM

Clearly a language barrier, but it's not that difficult to get through guys.

6MT 03-25-2014 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2748531)
What?

:iagree: A little more clarity is in order...

damian_mb 03-25-2014 09:25 AM

Someone forgot their golden grammar cereal this morning :D

Chuck33079 03-25-2014 09:34 AM

Or his native language isn't English? Look at his location.

SouthArk370Z 03-25-2014 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 2752467)
Clearly a language barrier, but it's not that difficult to get through guys.

:iagree:

OP is from Andorra (according to profile) so English is probably not his/her native language. The short version of what I got out of it was that the dealer sold an '09 as a '10 and then lied about it. Nissan corporate eventually made OP whole.

Chuck33079 03-25-2014 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 2752513)
:iagree:

OP is from Andorra (according to profile) so English is probably not his/her native language. The short version of what I got out of it was that the dealer sold an '09 as a '10 and then lied about it. Nissan corporate eventually made OP whole.

Yep. That's what I got as well. It's pretty obvious when you're dealing with a non-native speaker versus a native speaker who can't write to save his life. The OP is the former, not the latter. And, if the OP is anything like your average European, he probably speaks 4-5 languages well enough to communicate.

Elan 03-25-2014 05:45 PM

Totally got that OP is not from the US. His posts still left me utterly confused! Good effort though OP! :tiphat:

kenchan 03-25-2014 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Elan (Post 2753312)
Totally got that OP is not from the US. His posts still left me utterly confused! Good effort though OP! :tiphat:

just remember elan, that fritz helped MANY people with the steering lock permanent fix. :tup:

lt_370z 03-26-2014 08:39 AM

I have never seen so many parenthesis and quotation marks in a post...until today.

Haboob 03-26-2014 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by lt_370z (Post 2754141)
I have never seen so many parenthesis and quotation marks in a post...until today.

So you've never properly used grammar and punctuation then?

gurneyeagle 03-26-2014 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 2754144)
So you've never properly used grammar and punctuation then?

LOL! :roflpuke2:

We all make occasional mistakes posting here. Me probably more than most.

In this case we have someone who's native language isn't English. He gets a pass as his English is a he11 of a lot better than any attempt I could possibly make at his native language.

Who doesn't get a pass is the dumb arse who doesn't comprehend the concepts of capital letters, punctuation, and simple grammar. If you are too effing lazy to post in "non-texting" grammar, then :gtfo2:.

kenchan 03-26-2014 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gurneyeagle (Post 2754435)

Who doesn't get a pass is the dumb arse who doesn't comprehend the concepts of capital letters, punctuation, and simple grammar. If you are too effing lazy to post in "non-texting" grammar, then :gtfo2:.

that would be me then... :ugh:


kenchan :gtfo2:

but my native language isnt english...

kenchan :gtfi2:

:confused:

gurneyeagle 03-26-2014 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2754542)
that would be me then... :ugh:


kenchan :gtfo2:

but my native language isnt english...

kenchan :gtfi2:

:confused:

I hope you are not being serious mr. kenchan. You know exactly the types of posts I'm talking about.

To wit:

hi guys my z don't work right cuz i put the rong gas in it. prolly my fault but why don't nissan make it idiot proof. if your gonna build a sports car why can't it run diesel. now i no the haters are gonna hate cuz of a simple mistake i made but it was cus i was drunk so it really aint my fault :icon17: anyways what do i do now. my car don't run and i gotta pickup my girlfriend to take her to work at taco beel so she can by me more parts. i want new breaks and that stuff aint cheap. also my car got hit the other day and the driver promised to pay me cash for the damage but i didn't get there phone number and now i cant find them. is it two late to call the cops. all i want is my sh1t fixed cause i gotta take my gf to work at taco beel so she can make some monet to by me car parts. i forgot to ask about my tranny. since i cant drive a stick ai bought a auto. i tried to downshift so to save my breaks but the car don't like second gear at 70 so i think its broke. itz also time for my first oil change since i got almost 30k miles on my car. whats a good oil. is it okay to race a z. will a cp give you a ticket. i think since its a race car they don't gotta give you a ticket. comeon it aint no civic. when i had my civic the cops were hassling me all the time for going 30 over the limit in a school zone. i figured since it was a school for the blind those kids couldnt see me speed any ways. just another excuse for the cops to hassle me. the last thing is i want a wing for my car but cant afford a good one. is it possible to make one myself. oh yeah now the last thing do i really need to burn premium gas. dont regular work just as good my firend knows a guy who knows a guy who works at exxon and he syas that theirs no difference just the price. my parents think it is a waste of money and my allownace is going towrds car parts.

:eek::icon14::rolleyes::gtfo2:

kenchan 03-28-2014 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gurneyeagle (Post 2754715)
I hope you are not being serious mr. kenchan. You know exactly the types of posts I'm talking about.

To wit:

hi guys my z don't work right cuz i put the rong gas in it. prolly my fault but why don't nissan make it idiot proof. if your gonna build a sports car why can't it run diesel. now i no the haters are gonna hate cuz of a simple mistake i made but it was cus i was drunk so it really aint my fault :icon17: anyways what do i do now. my car don't run and i gotta pickup my girlfriend to take her to work at taco beel so she can by me more parts. i want new breaks and that stuff aint cheap. also my car got hit the other day and the driver promised to pay me cash for the damage but i didn't get there phone number and now i cant find them. is it two late to call the cops. all i want is my sh1t fixed cause i gotta take my gf to work at taco beel so she can make some monet to by me car parts. i forgot to ask about my tranny. since i cant drive a stick ai bought a auto. i tried to downshift so to save my breaks but the car don't like second gear at 70 so i think its broke. itz also time for my first oil change since i got almost 30k miles on my car. whats a good oil. is it okay to race a z. will a cp give you a ticket. i think since its a race car they don't gotta give you a ticket. comeon it aint no civic. when i had my civic the cops were hassling me all the time for going 30 over the limit in a school zone. i figured since it was a school for the blind those kids couldnt see me speed any ways. just another excuse for the cops to hassle me. the last thing is i want a wing for my car but cant afford a good one. is it possible to make one myself. oh yeah now the last thing do i really need to burn premium gas. dont regular work just as good my firend knows a guy who knows a guy who works at exxon and he syas that theirs no difference just the price. my parents think it is a waste of money and my allownace is going towrds car parts.

:eek::icon14::rolleyes::gtfo2:

:rofl2: wow, that sounds like my neighbor chick down the street that keeps yakin' without breathing. :eekdance: :rofl2:

tonybell_57 03-28-2014 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gurneyeagle (Post 2754715)
...hi guys my z don't work right cuz i put the rong gas in it. prolly my fault but why don't nissan make it idiot proof. if your gonna build a sports car why can't it run diesel. now i no the haters are gonna hate cuz of a simple mistake i made but it was cus i was drunk so it really aint my fault :icon17: anyways what do i do now. my car don't run and i gotta pickup my girlfriend to take her to work at taco beel so she can by me more parts. i want new breaks and that stuff aint cheap. also my car got hit the other day and the driver promised to pay me cash for the damage but i didn't get there phone number and now i cant find them. is it two late to call the cops. all i want is my sh1t fixed cause i gotta take my gf to work at taco beel so she can make some monet to by me car parts. i forgot to ask about my tranny. since i cant drive a stick ai bought a auto. i tried to downshift so to save my breaks but the car don't like second gear at 70 so i think its broke. itz also time for my first oil change since i got almost 30k miles on my car. whats a good oil. is it okay to race a z. will a cp give you a ticket. i think since its a race car they don't gotta give you a ticket. comeon it aint no civic. when i had my civic the cops were hassling me all the time for going 30 over the limit in a school zone. i figured since it was a school for the blind those kids couldnt see me speed any ways. just another excuse for the cops to hassle me. the last thing is i want a wing for my car but cant afford a good one. is it possible to make one myself. oh yeah now the last thing do i really need to burn premium gas. dont regular work just as good my firend knows a guy who knows a guy who works at exxon and he syas that theirs no difference just the price. my parents think it is a waste of money and my allownace is going towrds car parts.

:eek::icon14::rolleyes::gtfo2:

HIL. LAR. RI. OUS! :rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:


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