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MacCool 02-15-2014 07:08 PM

Float charger, not trickle charger. Latter will boil the battery if left on too long.

cjeezy 02-15-2014 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2694522)
wow, search button must be broken today...

Very helpful. Because of this post, my car just started.

cjeezy 02-15-2014 07:24 PM

My trickle charger has 2, 12V settings...a 2A and a 6A. Which one should I use?

SouthArk370Z 02-15-2014 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cjeezy (Post 2694548)
My trickle charger has 2, 12V settings...a 2A and a 6A. Which one should I use?

Once the battery is charged, used the lowest setting. As MacCool pointed out, a float charger is what you need. The charger you have may be able to regulate at the low current level required - keep a close eye on electrolyte level for a few weeks and see what happens.

Buy a cheap float charger* designed for car batteries and sleep easy at night.

* Not a recommendation for the vendor or product, just one of the first examples I found when I Googled "float charger".

cjeezy 02-15-2014 08:05 PM

So should I use the 6A setting until it's charged?

cooltoy 02-15-2014 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cjeezy (Post 2694547)
Very helpful. Because of this post, my car just started.

You don't want to go there.

cjeezy 02-15-2014 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cooltoy (Post 2694568)
You don't want to go there.

Why not? Because I only have my crappy a** phone to access the internet these days and I wanted a quick answer instead of searching through pages of stuff on my 2 inch screen? Yep, lets go there lol

SouthArk370Z 02-15-2014 08:21 PM

Depends on the state of charge now. If you have a few hours, I'd put it on 2A. If you are in a hurry, go with 6A. If the battery needs the extra amps, it'll take it; if it still has some charge, the charger/battery should self-regulate (if everything IRL worked like theory). But many chargers designed for charging a battery cannot properly float a battery.

The more I think about it, the more strongly I want to suggest buying a new float charger that is designed to maintain charge during storage. You can find cheap ones for $10 and better-than-adequate ones can be found for $30-50. As others have mentioned, over-charging the battery can kill it. It can generate enough heat to cause a fire (not that likely with a small charger like you have), and can even release enough hydrogen gas to be an explosion hazard (always possible, so make sure the area around the battery is well-ventilated when charging).

cooltoy 02-15-2014 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cjeezy (Post 2694575)
Why not? Because I only have my crappy a** phone to access the internet these days and I wanted a quick answer instead of searching through pages of stuff on my 2 inch screen? Yep, lets go there lol

Not the fact that you did not search, I meant the well intentioned sarcasm.

cjeezy 02-15-2014 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 2694578)
Depends on the state of charge now. If you have a few hours, I'd put it on 2A. If you are in a hurry, go with 6A. If the battery needs the extra amps, it'll take it; if it still has some charge, the charger/battery should self-regulate (if everything IRL worked like theory). But many chargers designed for charging a battery cannot properly float a battery.

The more I think about it, the more strongly I want to suggest buying a new float charger that is designed to maintain charge during storage. You can find cheap ones for $10 and better-than-adequate ones can be found for $30-50. As others have mentioned, over-charging the battery can kill it. It can generate enough heat to cause a fire (not that likely with a small charger like you have), and can even release enough hydrogen gas to be an explosion hazard (always possible, so make sure the area around the battery is well-ventilated when charging).

Thank you. Sounds like I'll just buy a new charger if they're that inexpensive. I'm in no hurry to charge it, so I'll put it on 2A in the meantime. Should leaving it on this setting overnight do the trick? At least Ill have a new charger for next winter (if I keep the car).

SouthArk370Z 02-15-2014 08:51 PM

If it's a decent charger, it will float (close enough for overnight) once the battery is charged.

The charger you have may work for storage, but why risk it when the right one is so cheap? But, yeah, the charger you have should work fine for overnight use (unless it's a POS).

LMBmikeZ 02-15-2014 09:30 PM

I don't understand why people are so scared :ugh2:

just unplug the negative terminal on your car every year or any time you will not be driving it for 4+ weeks

takes 30 seconds to reset the windows everything else.

O wait! you will need to do the clock on the centre bezels, if you have nav that one on screen normally sets itself :tup:

LMBmikeZ 02-15-2014 09:33 PM

^^This is also the cheaper route costs you zero$$$ for electricity :icon17:

MacCool 02-16-2014 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by LMBmikeZ (Post 2694617)
I don't understand why people are so scared :ugh2:

just unplug the negative terminal on your car every year or any time you will not be driving it for 4+ weeks

takes 30 seconds to reset the windows everything else.

O wait! you will need to do the clock on the centre bezels, if you have nav that one on screen normally sets itself :tup:

A $40 Battery Tender is simpler. Here in Minnesota, seasonal rolling stock is the norm. I have boats, quads, motorcycles, cars, and mowers on these things all winter. In the spring, I take 'em off and put on the snowmobiles and snowblowers.

A discharged battery (less than 80% charge) will not only short the plates due to sulfation (decreased battery life), it will also freeze. A charged battery won't freeze until about -56 degrees. That's sufficient, even in Minnesota.

LMBmikeZ 02-16-2014 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 2694753)
A $40 Battery Tender is simpler. Here in Minnesota, seasonal rolling stock is the norm. I have boats, quads, motorcycles, cars, and mowers on these things all winter. In the spring, I take 'em off and put on the snowmobiles and snowblowers.

A discharged battery (less than 80% charge) will not only short the plates due to sulfation (decreased battery life), it will also freeze. A charged battery won't freeze until about -56 degrees. That's sufficient, even in Minnesota.

mah :ugh2: I've never had a problem and I am in the true great white north CANADA but to each their own :tiphat:

at work a battery not in use is only disconnected and only ever placed on charger if and when it's needed not just because you want to keep it topped up. we can have batteries sit in storage for a couple years pull them out and they are good to go.

I guess I also saved $40 minimum as I didn't have to go buy anything extra :icon17:


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