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Originally Posted by damian_mb (Post 2693242)

Tell them global warming is real...Just look at all the cold days and snow all over the US. :icon14:

Or point to the record setting heat wave in Australia, a truly horrifying heat wave; or point to the unusually high temperatures (22-33°F above normal) in Alaska while we have cold induced by the polar vortex in parts of the lower 48.

This reminds me I need to get my car washed today.

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Originally Posted by DOOMMONKEY777 (Post 2691144)

Dude am serious, if ur papers are legit you can have a gun in your house to be used only on ur property, if some one is trespassing and you warn them that you have a gun and ull use it and they still dont get off ur property u have full right to use it. Even if its a cop(unless they have probable cause or warrant), a cop told me that.

"Dude am serious", the cop who told you that is an idiot. What you posted is absolutely NOT true in California:

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The legal defense of self-defense in California law means that you can't be found guilty of a violent crime that you committed in order to protect yourself, as long as your conduct was reasonable under the circumstances.

For purposes of the self-defense legal defense, “reasonable under the circumstances” means that you need to have:

1.Reasonably believed that you were in imminent danger of being killed, injured, or touched unlawfully,

2.Reasonably believed that you needed to use force to prevent that from happening, and

3.Used no more force than was necessary to prevent that from happening.

Specifically regarding defense of property and trespassing:

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...California self-defense law also encompasses the right to use force to defend your property from harm. This right covers both real property (like a house or land) and personal property (money, cars, jewelry, etc.).

In order to use the “defense of property” version of self-defense as a legal defense, you must be able to show that:

1.The threat of harm to your property was imminent (that is, immediate), and

2.You used only reasonable force to defend your property.

Example: Toby spots his angry ex-girlfriend Carrie approaching his car with a sledgehammer. It is clear that Carrie is about to commit California vandalism on Toby's car. So Toby uses physical force to restrain Carrie. She fights back, and he is forced to punch and kick her a few times.

Toby is probably not guilty of assault for punching and kicking Carrie, because of the extension of self-defense to the defense of property.

California self-defense law also provides that you have the right to use reasonable force to make someone who is trespassing on your property leave.

But for this version of self-defense to apply, you need to:

1.first request that the trespasser leave the property, and

2.reasonably believe that s/he poses a threat either to the property or to the people occupying it.

Source: California Self-Defense Laws

So in California you can only use "reasonable force" (i.e., force that is reasonable and justified under the circumstances), which means you can't shoot someone just because they are trespassing on your property. And the laws in most states in this regard are similar to California's.

California does have a "presumption of imminent danger and serious bodily harm" if a person engaged in a criminal act is inside your home (i.e., it is presumed that use of lethal force against a person engaged in a criminal act inside your home is justified unless the prosecutor can prove otherwise). In all other situations, the burden of proof is on you to show that your use of force (regardless of the type of force used) was reasonable under the circumstances.

i think it would be easier to just wash the car vs all this reading!

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2693541)

i think it would be easier to just wash the car vs all this reading!

TL;DR: it's not illegal to spray your neighbors with the hose if they bother you while you're washing the car.

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2693558)

TL;DR: it's not illegal to spray your neighbors with the hose if they bother you while you're washing the car.

yah, just spray them dumbarse neighbors and say 'oops, im sorry' and you're 100% fine just like nothing happened! :tup:

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Originally Posted by VCuomo (Post 2693505)

... California does have a "presumption of imminent danger and serious bodily harm" if a person engaged in a criminal act is inside your home (i.e., it is presumed that use of lethal force against a person engaged in a criminal act inside your home is justified unless the prosecutor can prove otherwise). ...

Seems to me that if they are in my house, they are already "engaged in a criminal act." ;)

Most laws/law makers protect the criminals more than the citizens. That's just like those azzhats that think we need more gun control and/or no guns at all. What good would that do for the citizens, a criminal by definition DOES NOT follow the law. Most crime committed with guns isn't done by someone who has obtained the gun in a legal way. Isn't it already against the law to kill someone, to rob someone? Well they are still doing it, go ahead and make all the laws you want the criminals will keep on breaking them. All more gun control would do is make it easier for the criminals and totally screw over anyone that obeys the law. Lets look at Chicago, some of the strictest gun control laws in the US. Yet somehow they have some of the highest murder rates and crimes committed with guns per capita. :icon14: Most, if not all those crimes committed with guns were not obtained legally. So yeah go ahead and rub some more laws in their face that'll show them..

Save your water.

Drive around the neighborhood and find some family who is obviously out of town and use their water.

Seriously though, I remember when I was a kid, i'd be with my dad to load up our car with plastic jugs and pails and make multiple trips to get in line for water, fill up our containers and head back home. No water pressure where we lived during certain weeks. I just learned to appreciate what I have now no matter how simple it is. Not a conservationalist by any means I just don't take it for granted. So at the end of each car wash, I appreciate the Z even more.

I'm saving water right now, I haven't washed the z in months.

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 2693573)

Seems to me that if they are in my house, they are already "engaged in a criminal act." ;)

That wording is just legalese to differentiate a criminal from, say, a friend that you invited into your home.

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Originally Posted by VCuomo (Post 2693798)

That wording is just legalese to differentiate a criminal from, say, a friend that you invited into your home.

Ah. Thanks for clearing that up for me. :tiphat:

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 2693601)

What I quoted has nothing to do with gun control or rubbing "some more laws in their face" - it has to do with laws that have been in the books for a long time on the use of force (not even necessarily the use of a gun). In CA (and in almost every other state in the USA), the law allows you to use as much force (including a weapon of any kind) to defend yourself as is reasonable given the circumstances you find yourself in. Is there something wrong with that? Or do you really think it's OK to shoot someone simply because they trespassed on your property?

I know it sounds like what I quoted favors the criminals, but it works both ways. Without some "reasonableness" restrictions in the self defense laws you could end up being shot for trespassing just for taking a short-cut through a field on your daily walk.

Dude I wasn't even talking to you nor did I read your earlier post. I was talking in general to the people that think putting more gun control laws on the books will stop criminals from breaking the law. Just pointing out that it hurts the law abiding people way more then any criminal because they don't follow the law....Get it now?

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 2693812)

Got it - I thought you were commenting on my earlier post...

Peace - don't shoot me! :D :tiphat:

Next socal car meet = nice and clean cars but owners with bad body odor

Same here. I use the Optimum no rinse car wash. Barely use any water but lots of microfiber I get cheap from Amazon. I wash it every week in my boxers in the privacy of my garage.

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Originally Posted by doink (Post 2694266)

Same here. I use the Optimum no rinse car wash. Barely use any water but lots of microfiber I get cheap from Amazon. I wash it every week in my boxers in the privacy of my garage.

I formerly used Optimum No Rinse all the time until I found out the Turtle Wax makes the same thing (Turtle Wax Rinse-Free) for a fraction of the price ($6 on Amazon). I'm hoping it is under license from Optimum or something like that because (near as I can tell) it is the exact same stuff.

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Originally Posted by DOOMMONKEY777 (Post 2691144)

I don't chime in here much anymore because of crap like this. You really are out of your mind. Ever heard of a cat named Zimmerman? Or in NY a dude named Bernard Goetz? Check it out and see what happens with idiots that are quick to shoot somebody. (I believe Goetz was justified by the way)

Civilized people don't go around shooting their idiot neighbors. You ought to learn how to spell too.

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Originally Posted by fairlady_z34 (Post 2691914)

Just tell your neighbors to call the government and tell them to turn on their weather making machine, amd make it rain

HARRP? or something like that.

Cali is lucky I have been a little lazy in washing my Z lately. I usually wash it once a week, but as of late I've been doing a little over once every two weeks :/.

Come to my house everyone, free car washes!

Oh and my shampoo is bio-degradable

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Originally Posted by DOOMMONKEY777 (Post 2690860)

I would have asked them to leave my yard nicely, if they refused id tell em ill shot you if u dont leave and if they still where standing there well ill shot em, called cops n ambulance tell em what happened.

Guns aren't allowed in Kalifornia either.

Are we talking about guns or water? This thread sounds like calguns.net forums all of a sudden

I thought this thread was about washing your car with bullets. :ugh2:

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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 2694754)

Guns aren't allowed in Kalifornia either.

:eek: Since when?

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Originally Posted by Apoc370z (Post 2690777)

two of them actually came over to make sure the car shampoo i used is safe for the environment.

I don't want to call you out and call you a pu$$y but...

Tell your neighbors to f- off man.:rolleyes: