Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2666472)

:iagree: Those are the only shorty headers that make any power. Do those and a set of DE HFCs and be done with it.

Originally Posted by alphajam (Post 2666478)

And not much power compared to the amount of money in labor… Lol. NST pulleys have a higher gain and is about $1800 dollars less...:icon18:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2666483)

Pulleys aren't illegal either. And go with the Stillen pulley, 20% under driven. That's what I got and I like it a lot

Originally Posted by Stoney (Post 2666323)

Okay I'll explain. I graduate in late May, I wanted to have all my performance parts ready to go before then, because I'm going to drive 8 hours to texas and have my car tuned at JOTECH, so then I will be done with my performance, another issue is I believe the mechanic I want to install my headers, I'm not sure if he will because he won't do anything illegal, (such as removing cats). And if he doesn't, odds are I'm going to pay 560 for headers and 560 for cats or something, (prices aren't the same), and around 360-480$ for install. (60$ per hour),,,(6-8hours)

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2666484)

And you don't need a tune for it either. If I were the OP I'd do an intake, HFCs, a pulley and a tune. Maybe Z1 or motordynes manifold.

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2666485)

Btw, once your mechanic starts, he ain't gonna charge you $360-480. He's going to charge you $700-800...



The shadiest of mechanics (one who is illegally in the US) quoted me $400, and a full day's labor.

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2666488)

Once he starts wrestling with getting the stock headers and cats out, that quoted price will double. The only way I could ever see shorty headers being worth it is if I was willing to DIY the job.

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2666485)

Btw, once your mechanic starts, he ain't gonna charge you $360-480. He's going to charge you $700-800...

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2666489)

Exactly what I mean. There isn't the room to do it easily. Hell, Baker Tuning in Houston drops the motor because it's easier, LOL!

Originally Posted by alphajam (Post 2666493)

THIS. Honestly Stoney, it's your money or your parents money (I really don't know whose or care to know) we are just trying to help you out as much as possible. If you're hell bent on the stillen/berk setup, go for it. Just prepare yourself for the terrible money-power ratio.

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2666495)

Yep. It's a bitch of a job for very little return. That labor cost is better spent somewhere else. Buy a set of 4.08 gears instead.

Originally Posted by Trips (Post 2666504)

:koolaidwall:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2666495)

Yep. It's a bitch of a job for very little return. That labor cost is better spent somewhere else. Buy a set of 4.08 gears instead.

Originally Posted by Stoney (Post 2666515)

K I don't know much about upgrading or whatever, so I should do z1 headers, and what HFCs? Berk 350z or stillen 350z? Or does z1 sell the 350z HFCs that fit the headers? And do i just call them and tell them what I want and pay over the phone?

Originally Posted by Stoney (Post 2666515)

K I don't know much about upgrading or whatever, so I should do z1 headers, and what HFCs? Berk 350z or stillen 350z? Or does z1 sell the 350z HFCs that fit the headers? And do i just call them and tell them what I want and pay over the phone?

Originally Posted by alphajam (Post 2666528)

to make this easy on everybody…
HFC:
Z1 370Z / G37 High Flow Metallic Catalytic Converters
Headers:
Z1 Motorsports VQ Performance Headers
The whole shabang (including the plenum upgrade):
VQ37VHR 400HP Package

Originally Posted by gbrettin (Post 2666541)

Didn't mean to post the same thing. I got all A.D.D and started doing something else and came back to finish my post. Apparently you wrote the same thing as me... heh

Originally Posted by Eclipz (Post 2666524)

If you haven't even graduated high school (I'm presuming) and you have a 370z, I consider you to be very lucky my friend. Don't screw it up.

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2666703)

Wait-the graduation you mentioned is high school? You don't need any power mods. You don't have the driving experience to handle the power you already have. Take that money and go learn to drive. Hpdes and AutoX before you mod anything.

Originally Posted by Stoney (Post 2666713)

Yep and I'm going to learn how to drive soon lol

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2666716)

If you do mod the car, use this as your chance to start learning to DIY mods. You'll have fun and save a fortune. Someone local would help you for pizza and beer.

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2666722)

Can't buy beer

Originally Posted by gbrettin (Post 2666717)

You are taking what he said in a negative way. By taking advantage of a driving school you will be able to drive the car to the maximum potential with out doing modifications first.

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2666724)

What high school did you go to? Beer was easy to come by. :rofl2:

Originally Posted by Stoney (Post 2666729)

Oh no I wasn't taking it in a negative way at all cause I know I can't drive, but I've don't know where any driving schools are around my area

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2666795)

There is a local chapter of guys who AutoX. Always. Go see if there's any SCCA events near you.

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2667125)

See if you can talk the parents into sending you to a Skip Barber course at the nearest track to you. The closest one to you may be Road Atlanta, but Southwest Airlines will get you there for $200. It's not cheap, but it's by far the best money I've ever spent related to cars. Plus, you get to flog some really high end machinery. When I went, it was all Dodges, but now they've gone with more Euro stuff.

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2667204)

A driving school. You use their cars and their instructors. They use a bunch of tracks around the country. I'd recommend the 2 day high performance driving school to start. It's so much fun. You don't have to be 18. There were two sixteen year old girls in the course I took at Laguna Seca. Their dad wanted them to learn how to drive before they got their licenses. They learned to drive standard in a viper. Best dad ever.

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2667779)

It wasn't cheap. I'd expect it to be around $3k depending on airfare and lodging. But when you figure you're about to drop more than half that on performance parts and labor, it's a little easier to wrap your head around.

Originally Posted by Stoney (Post 2667787)

Yeah I'm going to take your advice, I'm gunna get berk HFCs, the uprev tune and call it a day. Thanks for everything you've done and for dealing with my ignorance and stupidity lol! And maybe driving lessons in future. Depending on the price of course!