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volman 12-12-2013 09:36 PM

Which 370z to get? New or used?
 
First off, I'm new here and I apologize ahead of time if this happens to be in the wrong place.

After owning an '05 350z Ultra Yellow 35th Anniversary a few years back, I have always wanted to get back into a Z and regret getting rid of the 350z. Fast forward to today and I am planning on getting a 370z on Saturday. I'm looking at two, one new and one used, and am pretty undecided. I have not seen either because they are both about an hour from my home.

The first one is a new 2013 base with the sports package in Pearl White for $30k off the lot. I like the idea of getting a new one with the benefit of a full warranty and I won't have to worry about how the previous owned might have treated it.

The second one is a 2010 touring with the sports package in Monterey Blue with Persimmon interior with 21K miles on it. They want $24k for it. I do like the Blue and have always had a thing for the Persimmon interior. The basic warranty has just expired but there are two years left on the powertrain warranty.

I work from home and the car might end up getting 5k miles on it every year. The insurance will actually be cheaper for the 2013, but only by a couple of bucks.

Please, if you can, help me make my damn mind up. I don't think I can go wrong, but I'm having trouble figuring out which one is the better/smarter buy.

Oh, and I'm glad to be here. I remember joining my350z.com the day before I bought my 350z. I guess this is sort of the same deal.

Joepro 12-12-2013 09:43 PM

base sport for 30k new, if they proposed 30k, ask if they will take 27k, work it! I paid 26k for mine with 10k miles last year, dont be afraid to piss them off. I would be all over that If they will not truly budge go used.

ZeeBabar 12-12-2013 09:43 PM

I will take the 2010...
 
You want to pay $6000+ extra at the end of a model year for 21000 miles? The difference and especially since you drive so little, is not worth it.

If I paid $30k for a car, I would spend a heck of a lot more time and miles driving it.

volman 12-12-2013 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeeBabar (Post 2607292)
You want to pay $6000+ extra at the end of a model year for 21000 miles? The difference and especially since you drive so little, is not worth it.

If I paid $30k for a car, I would spend a heck of a lot more time and miles driving it.

Yeah, it won't get driven very often, but the drive is 50 minutes to the office when I go in and other trips are usually 80 miles each way to visit family. So when I do drive, I'm in it enough time to have fun with it. When I had the 350z, I had a 1.5 hour commute into work and most of that was on an interstate. I still had fun and really enjoyed it as a commuter.

Edit: Also, my wife is already claiming two days a week that she gets to drive it to work (10 miles away). I don't know if that's a good thing or bad thing, but it will get driven some every week.

Redglare 12-12-2013 10:30 PM

Id take new, price difference is not that much considering you will be getting 3 years newer and 0 miles and full warranty, not to mention a lot of minor things revised here and there.

30k w/ sport package is a pretty sweet deal.

Obviously u will take a bigger initial depreciation hit, but if you plan to keep the car for at least 2 years the initial depreciation will level out with the depreciation that the 2010 will go through.

peace of mind of new vs used also a factor, even though the car is pretty bulleproof - beat on anything enough and it will give.

if the new dealer starts trying to play games, bring up the used car ur considering and be ready to walk out, u will be surprised by the deal they will give u.
this time of year is best time to buy a sports car

Verda7junior 12-13-2013 06:08 PM

Get the new one.
 
I was looking to get a new or used 370Z earlier this year. I traded in my 2005 350Z 35th anniversary edition. In July I got my new 2012 370Z for $29988 with a sticker of $37465 after it sat on the dealers lot unsold for 15 months. I looked at and drove a few used ones and I am very happy that I got a brand new one at a good price. The blue with persimmon is a rare combination that requires a rare buyer. If you love it you may be able to get a better deal on it since it is not universally liked.

Fountainhead 12-13-2013 07:08 PM

In my case I wanted Touring with Manual and Sport package, and couldn't find that combo anywhere, (that I could afford, he he), so finally I found used with 11K on it. 2009, but with such low miles and powertrain warranty I was willing to take a chance.
If you don't mind the base bareness, go for the new.

Z-Girl 12 12-13-2013 08:00 PM

Get the used one...

volman 12-13-2013 08:30 PM

I've pretty much got a deal done for the 2013 and will be heading down to close the deal tomorrow morning. If they try to backtrack and change the numbers, then I will take the 45 minute drive over to see the 2010. Most of my communication with the dealership has been via email and they have seemed to be pretty eager to sell the 2013. It is actually a pretty small dealership and they probably don't sell many 370's in the summer...let alone the winter.

Thanks for the feedback everybody.

VincentLe 12-13-2013 10:04 PM

i was in a similar situation you were in, i liked the sport+touring more than the base imo. plus i like the 09-12 sport wheels better also.

ka24king 12-13-2013 10:17 PM

Make sure the used is a good clean car spend a good amount of time lookin at it. If it's good to go get that and call it a day! No big depreciation hit and you will have money for mods ;)!! Also that persimmon is so clean!

jaedub 12-14-2013 12:09 AM

New one (if your financially able). Buying a used sports car is too risky imo. People can abuse the crap out of it.

OldGuy 12-14-2013 12:13 PM

New One---By All Means
 
Buy the new one and keep it. Used sports cars scare me. Most people don't buy sports cars to drive them gently and not many people give up a trouble free gem with only twenty something thousand miles on it. I'd buy the new Z, maintain it carefully and keep it for the long haul. My practice has been to buy the finest new car I can afford, maintain it carefully and enjoy it 10 years & 100,000 miles. Works for me. (Get the ClearBra before you even drive it home. Smartest move you can make if you're going to keep the car for a while).

tnav 12-14-2013 12:30 PM

I'd get a Sport+Touring, huge difference inside, I'd get the one with Nav and some nice interior combination, also it has the iPhone connection, rear camera, power all, leather, etc, etc, etc, it's freaking nice. Used with say 10-15k is always better, get whichever has already taken the biggest depreciation hit, in about 2 weeks the 2013 will be a year old anyway

synolimit 12-14-2013 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joepro (Post 2607291)
base sport for 30k new, if they proposed 30k, ask if they will take 27k, work it! I paid 26k for mine with 10k miles last year, dont be afraid to piss them off. I would be all over that If they will not truly budge go used.

It's already 3k under invoice, they're taped out!

OP, take new!!

i like370z 12-14-2013 12:44 PM

i got my half year ago 31K OTD price for a 40th anniversary Z with 31.5K miles in it.
i feel like i got rip off ......listed price was 27999 but the dealer fee is 899 plug tax and everything so 31K OTD .....

volman 12-14-2013 02:27 PM

I ended up passing on both cars.

I've always really wanted an '09 in Chicane Yellow because I loved my ultra yellow 350z. After looking at the others, I just decided that having a yellow one just puts the car on an entirely different level for me. I had trouble finding them, so I had just given up on a yellow one, but I'm going to be more patient. I also have three different Nissan dealers looking to see if they can find one.

I have to thank poster DR_ for saying something in the thread below that finally told me what I needed to hear.

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...ml#post2124542

Quote:

Buying a sports car is an emotional purchase rather than just a rational one like buying a Sentra or something good on gas. So it only makes sense to buy the car that really speaks to you, and if that is a 40th, stick to them.
The yellow speaks to me.

synolimit 12-15-2013 12:09 AM

I'm glad I don't live like that! You'd drive yourself insane. Its a ******* car, just drive it, they are all the same. To each their own I guess. But I understand everyone's not like me with a new car every 6 months to a year. No real color choice, brand loyal, emotional attachment etc. drive it, race it, mod, move on.

b15 12-15-2013 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by volman (Post 2609377)
I ended up passing on both cars.

I've always really wanted an '09 in Chicane Yellow because I loved my ultra yellow 350z. After looking at the others, I just decided that having a yellow one just puts the car on an entirely different level for me. I had trouble finding them, so I had just given up on a yellow one, but I'm going to be more patient. I also have three different Nissan dealers looking to see if they can find one.

I have to thank poster DR_ for saying something in the thread below that finally told me what I needed to hear.

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...ml#post2124542



The yellow speaks to me.

Good luck on your search. Your patience will pay off. I really wanted a low mileage Pearl White one but settled on my black one because it had all the right options, was low mileage and in impeccable shape. The Black has grown on me but sometimes I wish I had the white. Oh well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by i like370z (Post 2609309)
i got my half year ago 31K OTD price for a 40th anniversary Z with 31.5K miles in it.
i feel like i got rip off ......listed price was 27999 but the dealer fee is 899 plug tax and everything so 31K OTD .....

In my opinion you overpaid a bit but it's not horrible. I bought my 2010 in March of 2013, fully loaded with 16k miles for 28k OTD. Deal is done now so no need to get worked up about it. Just enjoy the car.

volman 12-21-2013 05:42 PM

I know this thread has been dead for six days now, but I just wanted to say that I got a 370z today. After seeing a Monterey Blue 370z in person, I decided that I like it quite a bit...almost as much as the yellow...but enough to be really happy with it. Did a real thorough inspection and check of the 2010 370z Touring/Sport that I listed in the first post and decided to get it. The only issue with it was from where the previous owner seems to have gone over a speed bump that was a little too tall and it left a small ugly scrape at the bottom of the passenger side front bumper and broke the splash guard behind the front passenger tire a little bit on the bottom. All stuff that can be fixed but isn't really noticeable unless you get down really low to check. I really enjoyed the ride home and can't wait to see how it does with new tires in the next day or two. I'll miss the Titan Pro-4x I had, but I'm glad to be back in a Z.

And it is already dark, so I'll have to add pictures to the thread later when it is daylight and we get dry weather. Tomorrow's weather is going to suck.

ZeeBabar 12-21-2013 06:14 PM

Good choice. I bought my 2010 base Black listed at $2395 in. Trade in. It had some hail damage that I could only find by looking real close. runs great.

b15 12-21-2013 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by volman (Post 2619828)
I know this thread has been dead for six days now, but I just wanted to say that I got a 370z today. After seeing a Monterey Blue 370z in person, I decided that I like it quite a bit...almost as much as the yellow...but enough to be really happy with it. Did a real thorough inspection and check of the 2010 370z Touring/Sport that I listed in the first post and decided to get it. The only issue with it was from where the previous owner seems to have gone over a speed bump that was a little too tall and it left a small ugly scrape at the bottom of the passenger side front bumper and broke the splash guard behind the front passenger tire a little bit on the bottom. All stuff that can be fixed but isn't really noticeable unless you get down really low to check. I really enjoyed the ride home and can't wait to see how it does with new tires in the next day or two. I'll miss the Titan Pro-4x I had, but I'm glad to be back in a Z.

And it is already dark, so I'll have to add pictures to the thread later when it is daylight and we get dry weather. Tomorrow's weather is going to suck.

Congrats and welcome back! :tup:

JohnsZ 12-23-2013 01:14 PM

I needed this thread! As one of the few owners here to have an '09 Chicane Yellow Z, I am reminded of how lucky I am. Recently I have been considering a '10 Pearl White Roadster because I go back and forth on whether or not I want a convertible. But then I read a thread like this or even more frequently the many compliments and head turns I receive while I'm at a store, gas station, etc and I fall in love with my Z all over again. Thanks for the reminder!
:tiphat:

0101 12-24-2013 10:41 PM

Here's my research so far:

Price Research
2014 0 miles = $31,000
2012 1,000 miles = $27,000
2009 ~20,000 miles = ~$23,000
2009 ~40,000 miles = ~$20,000
Highest mileage 370 - 78,000 miles = $19,250
Prior model with 110,000 miles = $10,000
Prior model with 200,000 miles = $6-8,000

Depreciation Estimate:
From new to 100,000 miles with model change = $20,000 loss
From 20,000 to 120,000 miles with model change = $13,000 loss

From my research, it seems like it cost 50% more to buy a 370 new than with 20,000 miles on it!

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