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Caustic 09-20-2013 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee (Post 2497668)
OP, you mentioned driving 80-85 when it barely rained. That is when the pavement is the slickest. After it starts raining the oil and crap in the pavement surfaces and makes it slicker than after a hard rain.

^^ This needs repeating.

Cold weather (cold tires) will also affect tire traction dramatically if they are summer performance tires.

Bking 09-20-2013 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Drex (Post 2497660)
stock re050s are terrible in the rain

^this.

One time I hydroplaned on a semi-highway going around 100 km/h and almost killed a cyclist.

Just change your tires.

mhcoss 09-20-2013 05:31 PM

stop using cruise control on inundated roads

Tigger 09-20-2013 07:19 PM

^^^ Yeah, never use cruise during a downpour. You need to be able to ease the throttle when needed.

Also, for the record, I drive a base/non-sport with stock 18" wheels and tires. I've hauled *** in the rain before and I thought this car drove better in the rain than any of my previous vehicles. Ever. Handled wonderfully and took the puddles with ease. I even had someone pull out in front of me during a heavy rain and the Z swerved right on around with ease. It did exactly what I wanted it to.

Point is, if you have a rwd car, learn to handle it in the rain. But if the computer/VDC starts doing funny things then there is no amount of driving skill that will save you.

cossie1600 09-21-2013 01:05 AM

You can get more grip by driving faster, more downforce you know.....................just kidding

If you are dumb and stupid, you can always do this in an inch of rain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jns_U1ac8PA

Elan 09-21-2013 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee (Post 2497668)
This. I've got Continental DWs and I can hammer it in the rain with no issues.


OP, you mentioned driving 80-85 when it barely rained. That is when the pavement is the slickest. After it starts raining the oil and crap in the pavement surfaces and makes it slicker than after a hard rain.

DWs FTW!

Mt Tam I am 09-21-2013 02:24 PM

Strange timing on this post.

Had I read it before I left the house I'd have said never happened to me.

Today it is raining and for the first time in months. I have Michelin Pilot Super Sports and are wonderful in the rain and wet. Tomorrow I am at Sears Point for a track day and felt good about my tires.

So with the first rain I hit the straight after another car turned off, and felt my rear end getting light and wanting to move around a bit. I don't think this will be the case tommorrow. The roads will have been washed clean by then (I hope).

cossie1600 09-21-2013 05:49 PM

I was wait listed for that event, can't go :(

Nismodean 09-22-2013 05:43 AM

Screw the stock tires, those things are death traps in the rain. I was merging onto a highway with traction control on, normal acceleration in rainy conditions and I just turned the wheel a bit to merge onto the highway and I hit a small puddle at the point of merging and did a 720. Thank God no one else was on the road that night.

These tires safely got me through Wyoming, Colorado, and the mountain range of New Mexico during a snow storm that was bad enough to shut I-70 down. I never once lost traction! They're great in the rain and have MUCH better dry handling/traction than the stock tires. Bad mounting or something else from other people I suspect as I have half the road noise or less than I did with the stock tires. CLICK HERE!

scope22 09-22-2013 07:08 AM

off subject but why did you decide to go from 10 camaro to 370?

Nismodean 09-22-2013 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by scope22 (Post 2499435)
off subject but why did you decide to go from 10 camaro to 370?

Vehicle
Model year 2010
Make Chevrolet
Model Camaro
Style 2SS 2dr Coupe (6.2L 8cyl 6M)
Redline (rpm) 6,600
Horsepower (hp @ rpm) 426 @ 5,900 (REMEMBER @ FLYWHEEL, approx. 374 @ the wheel)
Torque (lb-ft @ rpm) 420 @ 4,600 (REMEMBER @ FLYWHEEL, approx 369 @ the wheel)
Transmission type Six-speed manual
Tire type Summer
Tire size, front P245/45ZR20 103Y
Tire size, rear P275/40ZR20 106Y

Dimensions & Capacities
Curb weight, mfr. claim (lbs.) 3,860
Curb weight, as tested (lbs.) 3,894 (vs ours @ 3245, they're 649 lbs heavier)

Track Test Results
0-45 mph (sec.) 3.4
0-60 mph (sec.) 5.1
0-75 mph (sec.) 6.8
1/4-mile (sec. @ mph) 13.1 @ 109.4
0-60 with 1 foot of rollout (sec.) 4.7
Braking, 30-0 mph (ft.) 27
60-0 mph (ft.) 111

SEARCH, AND THOU SHALL RECEIVE!

For non personal reasons the search provided above makes it obvious. With a driver that actually has something rattling in his/her nugget you shouldn't have a problem keep pace with the 2010/11/12/13 2SS Camaro. You can drive a heavy, boat sized dime a dozen car. Or you can drive a 370Z!

scope22 09-22-2013 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nismodean (Post 2499755)
Vehicle
Model year 2010
Make Chevrolet
Model Camaro
Style 2SS 2dr Coupe (6.2L 8cyl 6M)
Redline (rpm) 6,600
Horsepower (hp @ rpm) 426 @ 5,900 (REMEMBER @ FLYWHEEL, approx. 374 @ the wheel)
Torque (lb-ft @ rpm) 420 @ 4,600 (REMEMBER @ FLYWHEEL, approx 369 @ the wheel)
Transmission type Six-speed manual
Tire type Summer
Tire size, front P245/45ZR20 103Y
Tire size, rear P275/40ZR20 106Y

Dimensions & Capacities
Curb weight, mfr. claim (lbs.) 3,860
Curb weight, as tested (lbs.) 3,894 (vs ours @ 3245, they're 649 lbs heavier)

Track Test Results
0-45 mph (sec.) 3.4
0-60 mph (sec.) 5.1
0-75 mph (sec.) 6.8
1/4-mile (sec. @ mph) 13.1 @ 109.4
0-60 with 1 foot of rollout (sec.) 4.7
Braking, 30-0 mph (ft.) 27
60-0 mph (ft.) 111

SEARCH, AN THOU SHALL RECEIVE!

For non personal reasons the search provided above makes it obvious. With a driver that actually has something rattling in his/her nugget you shouldn't have a problem keep pace with the 2010/11/12/13 2SS Camaro. You can drive a heavy, boat sized dime a dozen car. Or you can drive a 370Z!

ok, i hear you... i test drove 2010 camaro and decided to get a 370 in the end as well for similar reasons, i liked the extra hp but didn't like the boat feel and interrior sucks.

Coon-azz 09-22-2013 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee (Post 2497668)
This. I've got Continental DWs and I can hammer it in the rain with no issues.


OP, you mentioned driving 80-85 when it barely rained. That is when the pavement is the slickest. After it starts raining the oil and crap in the pavement surfaces and makes it slicker than after a hard rain.

pavement type, tires, temp, first 30 minutes after even a light rain is bad as all the oil kicks up..ya know. driving 101 stuff...

roy'sz 09-22-2013 07:29 PM

1. Correct tire pressures.
2. I drive with vdc off. I once broke traction in with it on and got beake checked by the car itself.
3. Get rid of your summer tires and get something a little more all seasonish.

Bidness91 09-23-2013 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scope22 (Post 2499435)
off subject but why did you decide to go from 10 camaro to 370?

I had the v6 verision, it was a great car and had zero problems with it. but it needed new tires and i wanted import so instead of dropping $1400 i put it towards the Z.

The tires are the stock Potenza RE050A and they only have 16,000 on them. It is rainy part of the year, so I basically drive in rain every day here in florida. Havent had a scare but have drove like a 90yr old lady since the scare. Maybe I will put some new tires on it.


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