Oh yea, I remember when people thought the Z wasn't shite. Oh how things change.

I don't think the z is shyt. We just have a few fanboys that switched brands that have the power of influence on our cars.

Also No one is realistic about the Z. When i say the Z's real competitor is the 3.7 mustang when comparing to a mustang GT 5.0. I get responses that are like saying my comparison is bullyish and unfair. but stats are stats, and that's how we pin cars against each other in the interim.

if the 3.7 mustang is
305hp/280lbs tq, weighs 3400lbs,is rwd, offers manual and auto
If the Genesis coupe 3.8, is
348hp/290lbs tq 3400lbs, rwd, offers manual and auto.
And the Z is
332hp/270lbs tq,3300lbs, rwd and auto and manual.

All are v6's all are close in price to the Z if you stick with Base/Sport on the z vs the loaded versions of these cars. The car is designed to be the superior V6. NOT A V8.

while the Z has power that compares to a Dodge challenger R/T and the pre-genration mustang 4.6 and pontiac GTO. Its still a v6.

too many people have expected the Z to be miraculously fast car against V8's based on its v6 superiority.

It's like looking at the half glass full than half empty... Instead of seeing the Z is faster than ALL N/A v6 to $50k and a few turbo v6's. BMW135i & 335i. they choose to say, look it's NOT faster than a V8.

When you're mentality is like that? You're a either a Fanboi or a Jocker. People choose to look at things a certain way for ego, and not factual substance...

Fact is, the Z is a V6. I don't pin it against BRZ's or 5.0's. Because of that, I'm clear as to what i have without having to compare TOTALLY DIFFERENT "purpose built cars against mine.
The porsche cayman is purpose built to my Z... Know why it's $25k more asis from more refined porsche feel through better materials. MR. That said, the Z and Cayman are the closest competitors.
If people were realistic, they'd know the Z stands independent and is a Tried and True sports car.

C&D,ALSO easily influenced the train of thought of people. Shows how independent minded most are.

PS for some odd reason the Z is rated 332hp in the US and 326hp outland. And that's not a PS rating, it's hp.

When you compare the Z to those cars it definitely appears overpriced, which is why the v8/turbo4 comparisons start popping up.



This is what I was originally referring to.

Not really overpriced when you compare the terribly advanced performance over the latter. The 3.8 track does pose a kind of "How much are we really getting for our dollar?" question. But the 3.8 build quality and chassis rigidity isn't as good as ours. Remember we have Rays Forged wheels that in actually are probably worth as much as we get the whole sport pkg. The gencoupe gets Alloys. lol But there computer tech, power seats and bumpin system take over in the value dept.
VVEL like it or not, was groundbreaking, SRM and our 7AT's were 3 levels above in the world of slushboxes. We have some of the pricier suspension set ups in the range. a lot of our value is seen under the hood.

2013 pricing took the Z to the point of ridiculousness. And furthermore, that refresh, weather you think is nice or not? Was a slap in the face when you factor in the slowness of improvements on the Z. Even 8 more hp and a new map or exhaust would have at least made the 13 price increases, not justifiable, but excusable.

name one N/A v6 car that is far faster then the 370z and will out handle a 370z?

cant?
well thats because the Z is the best of the best in its category, it handles well, its fast around the track, and it has 0-60 times and 1/4 mile times that compare to high displacement V8s and turbo V6s

saying the 370z is a weak car is like saying morphine is a weak pain killer

and no im not being a fan boy, i know there are cars faster then the 370z, but in its class, its a fast car and heck its probably one of the fastest out there

Nothing like reviving a three years old thread to stroke your ego

maybe you should check the post dates before mine....

if you did then you would have realized it was bumped yesterday

does it have to be a "v6" or can it be an I6 or flat 6. every porsche made, and bmw m3 come to mind.

but i do see your point, it does have a niche in the market right now

that's what I was referring to....

http://www.motivemag.com/Content/uploads/1/gulls.jpg

The Cayman looks like it has an underbite and something else missing from the front. It's weird because I have tried to like the Caymans ever since I took a ride with a skilled driver in a Boxter S and realized what driving skill is all about. I know the Cayman S is an excellent sports car but it just seems off to me. Every time I look at that thing it makes me cringe and love my Z that much more.

'Tis why looks are subjective and we have many different choices which is fantastic for car guys and gals.

To me the Cayman has very classic lines. The Z has aggressive lines but I don't think it will age the way a 240 or early 280 did (before 80's bumpers), nor an unmolested Z32 has. Similar to my eye as the C7 Vette (not to tangent but another example of aggressive line design that I don't feel is a classic, timeless look).

The first Gen Cayman looks the same within a 7 year model year for the most part: you can't tell if its brand new or an old one. That is what drew us to our used 2007. Its fun seeing both 2 seat sports cars in the garage: different tools for different drives, but 100% fun in both cases. :driving:

- b

this is what i meant lol, but i thought the 370z was faster then the E46 M3?

on a track day it definitely a drivers game, but i thought the 370z was faster then the m3 around the track when given to a professional driver

EDIT:
yep it is faster behind the hands of the stig
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/top_gear_track.html

M3 CLS 1.28 '03(E46) 360hp/1385kg
370z 1.27.50 '09 330hp/1583kg

I thought the M3 is a V8?:confused: Mixing past nd present? He did say 'V6" and the Z has been faster in a straight line than cayman's and Cayman S. anything else, you are going three times the Z price and you're probably including F.I.'d 6's.

The Z is probably the fastest NA v6 to $60k, hands down, and beats some turbo 6's, not all..

from all of it my 2 cents, the 370Z is a fun car....
I like the style, I like the feel, I like the power

It's a welcome change of pace from the usual whining that goes on.