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carlitos_370z 08-30-2013 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jcosta79 (Post 2466778)
You need glasses.

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///PureSwank 09-02-2013 03:10 PM

For the love of god nissan. Make the 370z awd and stick the gtr motor in it or a differemt version of it. And KEEP the same sport body style. CASED CLOSED


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Z_ealot 09-02-2013 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ///PureSwank (Post 2470773)
For the love of god nissan. Make the 370z awd and stick the gtr motor in it or a differemt version of it. And KEEP the same sport body style. CASED CLOSED


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yeahhhhh....im just gonna say they aren't going to cannabalize their gt-r sales for something thats basically the same but for half the price...very bad business decision for them if they did

370Z JT 09-02-2013 04:45 PM

I don't care what engine it has, or how much power it makes, or how much it weighs. Just make it considerably faster than the current Z34.

///PureSwank 09-02-2013 05:04 PM

Okay then don't put the gtr motor in it. But male it awd. It just sucks that you have a 370z with the sexy body but power potential is not as good. Then you have a beast gtr with awesome potential but it looks like a box!! WTF!!!

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brucelidat 09-02-2013 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ///PureSwank (Post 2470857)
Okay then don't put the gtr motor in it. But male it awd. It just sucks that you have a 370z with the sexy body but power potential is not as good. Then you have a beast gtr with awesome potential but it looks like a box!! WTF!!!

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I don't think AWD affects power potential.

///PureSwank 09-02-2013 06:28 PM

No but awd is better them rwd of a dig or insane amounts of power without having to make/build a car to look like a dragster.


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Chuck33079 09-02-2013 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ///PureSwank (Post 2470915)
No but awd is better them rwd of a dig or insane amounts of power without having to make/build a car to look like a dragster.


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There's plenty of AWD sports cars out there. I picked the Z because it was rwd. Had it been AWD, I wouldn't have bought one.

Adding AWD to the z would increase the cost of a car that is already selling incredibly poorly. Not to mention adding several hundred pounds of weight. That, and Nissan doesn't have an AWD system that will mate up with a manual transmission. So they can either make the Z auto only, or spend a lot of money to redesign their AWD system. Neither of those sound like a solid plan. Even of it doubles Z sales, that brings it up to 20k units a year. Not enough to justify a major drivetrain change like going to AWD.

///PureSwank 09-02-2013 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2470949)
There's plenty of AWD sports cars out there. I picked the Z because it was rwd. Had it been AWD, I wouldn't have bought one.

Adding AWD to the z would increase the cost of a car that is already selling incredibly poorly. Not to mention adding several hundred pounds of weight. That, and Nissan doesn't have an AWD system that will mate up with a manual transmission. So they can either make the Z auto only, or spend a lot of money to redesign their AWD system. Neither of those sound like a solid plan. Even of it doubles Z sales, that brings it up to 20k units a year. Not enough to justify a major drivetrain change like going to AWD.

Which is why I said I wish nissan would have made a 370z with the potential of the GTR a couple posts ago. Because one lacks the raw sports design but the other lacks the power potential. It doesn't necessarily have to be a 370z even if it were another sports car they brought in with both look and power Integrated together. Instead we have a box with amazing potential. And a beautiful Z with average raw power. Chevy has The ZR1 but it also has the C6 LS3, Z06 LS7, and camaro. ALL amazing platforms to build incredible power yet still retain that raw sport car look. Same could be said about Ford. Yeah the mustangs are squary but people know their sports cars and might I add those engines can be BEASTY with minimal money as well. I just wished nissan had more options I guess I can put it that way. I do think the 370z looks better then any camaro or mustang at that.

And I didn't even take into consideration how many models there is out there ALL with potential. ZL1, Z28, Grand Sport, Boss, 5.0, GT500 etc etc. Nissan needs more options. Not a couple variants with 15-20 horsepower changes.

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Chuck33079 09-02-2013 08:49 PM

When you sell hundreds of thousands of units, you can make a bunch of different flavors. When you struggle to sell 10k a year, you're lucky if you get one.

I'm not sure how the Z lacks power potential. Because there's not a whole lot to be added with NA mods? That just means that Nissan did a good job optimizing the motor they gave us. They didn't leave a lot on the table for the aftermarket. Plus, if you want to talk about potential, there is the fact that the motor has handled north of 500 whp without issue.

///PureSwank 09-02-2013 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2471070)
When you sell hundreds of thousands of units, you can make a bunch of different flavors. When you struggle to sell 10k a year, you're lucky if you get one.

I'm not sure how the Z lacks power potential. Because there's not a whole lot to be added with NA mods? That just means that Nissan did a good job optimizing the motor they gave us. They didn't leave a lot on the table for the aftermarket. Plus, if you want to talk about potential, there is the fact that the motor has handled north of 500 whp without issue.

My concern is not how many they have sold. I simply stated I wish. What good optimizing of the motor is what many other vehicles that chevy and ford provide us with that allow us to gain superior amounts of power on both a turboed or naturally aspirated motor. That is LEGIT. TT 500whp on the 370z is nice. That's what naturally aspirated motors run with chevy and Ford....meh. Turbo them AND FORGET IT. I still give the 370z the looks department over a camaro and ford. Just dissappointed in the potential of the car before going extreme with money. Like I saI'd before. The gtr is a beast. The looks are okay. Nice looking car either way. Ill repeat myself omve more. I WISH nissan gave us more options. And call me crazy because ill prolly be having to sacrificing the gorgoues look of the z with a GTR just to get its potential. Sucks.

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Chuck33079 09-02-2013 09:12 PM

So, from what you're saying is you want a 5.0-7.0 liter V8 in the next Z, since that's what you're comparing the Z's power potential to? Of course they make more power NA or FI than a 3.7 liter V6. And picking up 40-50 whp with bolt ons and a tune on a V6 is not bad at all. By the way, that same 3.7 liter V6 puts out more hp/liter than the LS7.

While you may not be concerned with units sold, Nissan sure as hell is. I'd bet money that if the Z35 sells like the Z34, it will be killed.

///PureSwank 09-02-2013 09:21 PM

Ofcourse I'm not comparing them. I know these cars have a lot more displacement therefore extract more power. You keep missing my point. I simply stated that it would be nice if nissan gave us more options of power or even more models at that. But instead we have a 370z and a GTR. I KNOW some things have to get done in order for Nissan to be financially stable to embark on a new model or an extreme 370z make over. Which is why your concerned about their sells. Its a realistic argument. All I was saying was I just wished nissan had more options on power, models, etc. That's all. Just opinionated my idea just like everyone else did.

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///PureSwank 09-02-2013 09:36 PM

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JungleZ 09-02-2013 10:15 PM

You sound like me and got the car for looks, if you want a drag racing type car "from a dig you wrote" than you should of got a gt 5.0 mustang. or evo X for the awd you're raving about.

It's an entry level sports car guy , Nissan isn't gonna give it close to gtr dedication.


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