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rudi 08-27-2013 12:11 AM

My old Silvia S15 that I had before my Z had no problems keeping up with the 370. It wouldn't worry me going to a turbo 4.

Rusty 08-27-2013 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by critical (Post 2461752)

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Originally Posted by critical (Post 2462198)
Yeah, looks like it was on the 16th of this month. Idk what Rusty was trying to say.

NISSAN MOTORSPORTS | 2013 Press Release

I've seen that picture before. Thought it was about 2 years ago. :icon14:

alvitdk 08-27-2013 05:12 AM

Next Nissan Z Scooped
 
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Originally Posted by PaulZ370 (Post 2462538)
All Going "Stupid"... :owned:

Hey here's a couple of ideas,

1. Why don't we take the Corn that we grow, and turn it into fuel ....!

2. Let's cut all Carbon Dioxide emissions to zero, that includes human breathing, then expect Trees and other Greenery to grow more prevalent!

World 'saved'.... :icon18:

Funny actually

1. We do already and the outcome is shitty gas and higher food prices.

2. Without CO2, all trees and other greenery will die, as they "breath" CO2 and produce what we need.


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UNKNOWN_370 08-27-2013 07:05 AM

While the Z doesn't have any particular 6 cylinder configuration. Having 6 cylinder in any configuration is tradition. I'm hoping to either see a serious weight reduction on the 6 power plant as well as chassis weight or break the 6 tradition for a well engineered turbo 4. I would break tradition of the 6 for an ultra-modern turbo 4.

The render op posted is as relevant as a C&D article. Nissan never really leaks anything more than there rough sketch drawings when it comes to the Z. When they have a masked pre-production Z. That will be our first true hint at the next Z.
The render isn't horrible but like the C7 corvette. That render has too many forced lines.

nismonster 08-27-2013 03:57 PM

Another article about the new Z....:shakes head:

DailyTech - Report: Nissan's Next Generation "Z" to Go on "EPA Diet", Will Lose 400 Pounds

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According to a new report from Motor Trend, another fan favorite is going on a diet all in the name of performance and fuel economy concerns. The next generation Nissan Z (codenamed Z35) will lose two inches in width and a whopping 400+ pounds. The huge weight reduction would put the next generation Z below 2,900 pounds.


Motor Trend's sources indicate that while Nissan plans to offer the next generation Z with a V6 when it launches, the "master plan" is to phase out the V6 entirely in favor of a turbocharged, 2.5-liter inline-4. The turbo four will reportedly pump out 330hp, putting it on par with the 3.7-liter V6 used in the current 370Z.

The weight reduction and move to four-cylinder power should allow the new Z to achieve EPA numbers far better than the current car’s 18/26 mpg (city/highway) with a manual transmission.


kenchan 08-27-2013 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by nismonster (Post 2463665)

interesting find indeed. im glad i bought my Z when i did. why would i want a 2" narrower Z? :ugh:

critical 08-27-2013 07:24 PM

lol codenamed z35. that's not freaking coded.

author probably pulled stuff out of thin air.

280z/300zx 08-27-2013 08:31 PM

I don't have a problem with a 2.5 turbo 4. The problem I have is that in order to make it powerful enough for the Z name it will come strung out from the factory leaving little to be done with basic bolt-on's. In order to get more power owners will have to change out the turbo and all components. The great thing about turbos is that basic mods will yield good results, but if the engine is already maxed out there won't be much to gain. A 330hp 2.5 won't leave a lot of room on the table. I'd honestly rather than go to something like a 3.0 V6 twin turbo like the old Z32. With todays technology a small V6 twin turbo will not only make good power but it will still get good gas mileage. No need to drop to a 4 cylinder. Not to mention I don't want to have to rev the hell out of the car every time I go up a hill or want to pass someone. Loved my old 06 WRX but it just didn't have that low rpm power. Torque is something the current Z is already missing, going to a turbo 4 won't help matters.

brucelidat 08-27-2013 08:36 PM

Everyone would rather see a smaller v6 turbo instead of a 4, but I doubt they would do it because it might feel like it's getting too close to the gt-r. I know it wouldn't be that close, but they want to keep the 2 cars very separate I think.

280z/300zx 08-27-2013 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 2463961)
Everyone would rather see a smaller v6 turbo instead of a 4, but I doubt they would do it because it might feel like it's getting too close to the gt-r. I know it wouldn't be that close, but they want to keep the 2 cars very separate I think.

I used to see that point but every year the GTR just keeps getting faster and more powerful. At this point even at it's current weight if they dropped in a 400hp motor it still would be far slower than the GTR. Even at it's proposed 2900lbs if it had a V6TT with ~400hp it would still be far slower than the GTR. Even a modified V6TT with 500hp would still be slower than the GTR simply because the Z lacks AWD. The simple fact is the Z won't come close to the GTR for that argument to hold water anymore. When the GTR was 80k and only had 480hp I could understand but at the current level of the GTR it's so above and beyond the Z that Nissan could give the Z some extra grunt without worry.

brucelidat 08-27-2013 08:51 PM

Of course it would still be slower, but the not enthusiast car buying public might look at pure hp potential numbers and decide it is close enough to not spend triple the money on the GT-. Whether that is true or not, I don't know but Nissan would probably not want the Z to remotely be linked tot he GT-R in that regard. The most promising part of this article to me is the 400 lb weight reduction.

brucelidat 08-27-2013 08:53 PM

Maybe they should up the GT-R to a v8 and give us our turbo 6, haha. Godzilla is about due for as well.

Chan Chee Hoe 08-28-2013 06:24 AM

Since Mercedes already shared engine with the Infinite...must will put the 360 bhp Mercedes A or CLA 45,2 litre engine to the next Z...

Chuck33079 08-28-2013 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 280z/300zx (Post 2463957)
I don't have a problem with a 2.5 turbo 4. The problem I have is that in order to make it powerful enough for the Z name it will come strung out from the factory leaving little to be done with basic bolt-on's. In order to get more power owners will have to change out the turbo and all components. The great thing about turbos is that basic mods will yield good results, but if the engine is already maxed out there won't be much to gain. A 330hp 2.5 won't leave a lot of room on the table. I'd honestly rather than go to something like a 3.0 V6 twin turbo like the old Z32. With todays technology a small V6 twin turbo will not only make good power but it will still get good gas mileage. No need to drop to a 4 cylinder. Not to mention I don't want to have to rev the hell out of the car every time I go up a hill or want to pass someone. Loved my old 06 WRX but it just didn't have that low rpm power. Torque is something the current Z is already missing, going to a turbo 4 won't help matters.

A 330 hp turbo 4 would be too strung out from the factory? Better tell those Evo guys running 400whp on the stock motor with a turbo swap. A turbo swap isn't a big deal. Certainly nothing to worry about assuming the motor is stout enough, you get the right supporting mods and a good tune.

There's no way to say that the motor is maxed out until some tuners get ahold of one and turn up the boost. It could be a beast of a motor that can take a lot of boost and punishment. It could be one of those that self destructs at factory power levels. We won't know until that first group of buyers blow theirs up.

I'm not sure what you did to your WRX, but my 04 STI had 380 ft/lbs of torque at 3400 rpm. It's not a Chevy 350, but that's still a lot of torque. Between that much torque under 4k rpm and the fact that is spooled up quick, you didn't really have to rev it much to pass someone.

I want the Z to remain a V6, but a turbo 4 would be fine too if the 2900 lb curb weight happened. Given how poorly the Z sells, I seriously doubt they're going to go too far from an engine that's shared across platforms. They're not going to reinvent the wheel for a car that's been selling <10k units annually. My guess is another revision of the VQ, maybe with DI, and a lighter chassis. To be honest, I'm kinda shocked we're getting a Z35 given how badly the Z34 has sold.

DIGItonium 08-28-2013 08:07 AM

I'd rather have a modernized 2.4L Inline 6 than a 2.5L Inline 4. ;)


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