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For the love of god nissan. Make the 370z awd and stick the gtr motor in it or a differemt version of it. And KEEP the same sport body style. CASED CLOSED


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yeahhhhh....im just gonna say they aren't going to cannabalize their gt-r sales for something thats basically the same but for half the price...very bad business decision for them if they did

I don't care what engine it has, or how much power it makes, or how much it weighs. Just make it considerably faster than the current Z34.

Okay then don't put the gtr motor in it. But male it awd. It just sucks that you have a 370z with the sexy body but power potential is not as good. Then you have a beast gtr with awesome potential but it looks like a box!! WTF!!!

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I don't think AWD affects power potential.

No but awd is better them rwd of a dig or insane amounts of power without having to make/build a car to look like a dragster.


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There's plenty of AWD sports cars out there. I picked the Z because it was rwd. Had it been AWD, I wouldn't have bought one.

Adding AWD to the z would increase the cost of a car that is already selling incredibly poorly. Not to mention adding several hundred pounds of weight. That, and Nissan doesn't have an AWD system that will mate up with a manual transmission. So they can either make the Z auto only, or spend a lot of money to redesign their AWD system. Neither of those sound like a solid plan. Even of it doubles Z sales, that brings it up to 20k units a year. Not enough to justify a major drivetrain change like going to AWD.

Which is why I said I wish nissan would have made a 370z with the potential of the GTR a couple posts ago. Because one lacks the raw sports design but the other lacks the power potential. It doesn't necessarily have to be a 370z even if it were another sports car they brought in with both look and power Integrated together. Instead we have a box with amazing potential. And a beautiful Z with average raw power. Chevy has The ZR1 but it also has the C6 LS3, Z06 LS7, and camaro. ALL amazing platforms to build incredible power yet still retain that raw sport car look. Same could be said about Ford. Yeah the mustangs are squary but people know their sports cars and might I add those engines can be BEASTY with minimal money as well. I just wished nissan had more options I guess I can put it that way. I do think the 370z looks better then any camaro or mustang at that.

And I didn't even take into consideration how many models there is out there ALL with potential. ZL1, Z28, Grand Sport, Boss, 5.0, GT500 etc etc. Nissan needs more options. Not a couple variants with 15-20 horsepower changes.

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When you sell hundreds of thousands of units, you can make a bunch of different flavors. When you struggle to sell 10k a year, you're lucky if you get one.

I'm not sure how the Z lacks power potential. Because there's not a whole lot to be added with NA mods? That just means that Nissan did a good job optimizing the motor they gave us. They didn't leave a lot on the table for the aftermarket. Plus, if you want to talk about potential, there is the fact that the motor has handled north of 500 whp without issue.

My concern is not how many they have sold. I simply stated I wish. What good optimizing of the motor is what many other vehicles that chevy and ford provide us with that allow us to gain superior amounts of power on both a turboed or naturally aspirated motor. That is LEGIT. TT 500whp on the 370z is nice. That's what naturally aspirated motors run with chevy and Ford....meh. Turbo them AND FORGET IT. I still give the 370z the looks department over a camaro and ford. Just dissappointed in the potential of the car before going extreme with money. Like I saI'd before. The gtr is a beast. The looks are okay. Nice looking car either way. Ill repeat myself omve more. I WISH nissan gave us more options. And call me crazy because ill prolly be having to sacrificing the gorgoues look of the z with a GTR just to get its potential. Sucks.

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So, from what you're saying is you want a 5.0-7.0 liter V8 in the next Z, since that's what you're comparing the Z's power potential to? Of course they make more power NA or FI than a 3.7 liter V6. And picking up 40-50 whp with bolt ons and a tune on a V6 is not bad at all. By the way, that same 3.7 liter V6 puts out more hp/liter than the LS7.

While you may not be concerned with units sold, Nissan sure as hell is. I'd bet money that if the Z35 sells like the Z34, it will be killed.

Ofcourse I'm not comparing them. I know these cars have a lot more displacement therefore extract more power. You keep missing my point. I simply stated that it would be nice if nissan gave us more options of power or even more models at that. But instead we have a 370z and a GTR. I KNOW some things have to get done in order for Nissan to be financially stable to embark on a new model or an extreme 370z make over. Which is why your concerned about their sells. Its a realistic argument. All I was saying was I just wished nissan had more options on power, models, etc. That's all. Just opinionated my idea just like everyone else did.

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You sound like me and got the car for looks, if you want a drag racing type car "from a dig you wrote" than you should of got a gt 5.0 mustang. or evo X for the awd you're raving about.

It's an entry level sports car guy , Nissan isn't gonna give it close to gtr dedication.

I have a C6 Z06 as well lol. I was just stating my opinion on nissan. It would be nice to have a 370z with a more potent oem block. You never KNOW!!

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Only way it would happen is if they dropped in the 240 as entry level and slotted the Z up higher in the 40k+ range. Even then, it wouldn't get AWD or anything close to GTR, but maybe a more potent engine and less NVH. That's not happening either though.

An obvious choice that seems to be overlooked would be the VQ25 v6 with a turbo. In fact if I were Nissan I might even drop it down to 2.4L to capitalize on the original 240z name. They could easily make 350hp, keep it a v6 with lighter weight, less NVH and it would sell.

The other option that I think is likely is to go back to 3.5L without VVEL but add in DI, that would probably get the same power or more then the 3.7L with better gas mileage, cheaper price, lower weight, etc. Lose some weight and you have a winner.

Third option, given the rumors about platform sharing with Mercedes, perhaps the next Z will get the new 2.0 turbo 4 from the new AMG with 350hp/335tq. If the Z were to lose a couple hundred pounds of weight that would a beastly car.

Well, we'll see what they do. I hope we get some details sometime next year. If the new Z isn't very impressive, I might SC the 370.

well if what we've been hearing turns out to be true all signs point to Nissan showing a concept this january in detroit :D

Hope so. I would much rather have a turbo 4 than a hybrid or electric. If its light enough I wouldnt mind a 4 cylinder. I would much rather prefer a 6 cylinder, although a 4 cylinder would be MUCH easier to work on more than likely over the vq37.

I don't mind boost as long as it's on a 6. Nissan doesn't have a 4 cylinder that I'd like to see in a Z. The VQ25 could happen, however, in direct injected turbo form.

If Mazda can make a bulletproof DI-Turbo platform and sell it (MS3), then Nissan sure as hell can.

Nissan doesn't, but Mercedes does. It's currently found in the A45 AMG. ~350hp and 35mpg from a 345lb engine? Yes please.

Geneva LIVE: Mercedes launches 360-horsepower A 45 AMG

Due to the cost of this engine compared to the VQ, I doubt Nissan will employ it, but the option does exist. Mercedes and Nissan confirmed that Merc 4 and 6 cyl engines will be brought over to Infiniti- who knows what they may mean for the Z car.

The problem with DI is figuring out what to do when you reach the limit of the fuel pump. Those high pressure pumps cost a fortune.

On the MS3, you can swap the internals for about $350, or the whole thing in the $600's if memory serves.

That's pretty reasonable. Still a hell of a lot more than my Walbro. What about injectors? DI is great (other than Audi's carbon deposit issue) other than the cost of upgrades.

Most people get around injector limits by doing a piggyback fueling system. Bigger injectors have been a major issue with the MS3, waiting to see if this is going to be the same with Ford's ecoboost engines. Their 2 liter ecoboost fueling system seems to be topping out at around 350 to 370 hp, stock.

The Z35 concept will be at Tokyo Motor Show!!!

Awesome when's the show

Edit: November .. Nice . I have the biggest feeling the car will look all futuristic though. Hard to best current looks but if its smaller lets not hope for a brz rice rocket.

November 22~!!! that's not too far away at all,

Read more: Nissan to launch new Z-car | Auto Express

"and could look quite different from a traditional sports car"

YIKES!!

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Couple more months...

i'm scared to see the design. at least they say it's lighter.

"Palmer confirmed that the Juke Nismo offers some hints at what Nissan is looking at."

That's an ugly car. :shakes head:

I am also worried about Nissan's styling direction. But on the positive side, if the new Z is a disappointment, I'll save money by not feeling the urge to trade in for the new one.

How stupid is Andrew palmer? Saying he wants to reach out to a bigger audience with an uglier *** car than the current Z34. And less people buy electric as well lol. This **** is not a prius. It is a sports car! he needs to realize that! or the legendary Z name is going down in flames!

I have thought for years now that Nissan will downsize the engine to a small 4-cyl turbo. Just look at the nomenclature of the Z. For years, the Z was referred to as the Nissan 300zx, 350z, 240z and so on. That number designated the displacement. 300zx = 3.0/ 350Z = 3.5/ 240Z = 2.4. The 370Z has never been referred to as "370Z" by ANY of Nissan's marketing materials. It has always been referred to as only the "Z". This has led me to the believe one of two possibilities:

A) Nissan is planning on downsizing the engine. With this in mind, they do not want ANOTHER 350Z or 250Z <-- This is assuming that they use one of the popular engines already in many Nissan vehicles (VQ35, QR25).

B) They simply wanted a more modern name for the car and will stay the course of increasing displacement.....not likely.

so basically you just called your own car ugly?...jk :D

LMAO! i love the Z34! It came out wrong XD. Z34 is like the sexiest thing ever