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evil370z 06-25-2013 06:46 PM

Buying a 370z soon, need help
 
first time on this forum, im looking to buy a new 370z but i need to know which version is worth buying ? . i was thinking of getting the touring with sports package and navi. going to cost me about 45k. which version is worth buying ? which package is worth getting?

im deciding between a evo mr / 370z / infinity g37.

thanks.

dP3NGU1N 06-25-2013 06:56 PM

Oh this sounds fun.....

First you should figure out what you need, what you want, and what you can live without. Then go to the nissan website and find out which one fits YOU.

Which one is worth buying? Just get the Evo....

enkei2k 06-25-2013 07:06 PM

Drives: 13 nissan 370z bk

:confused: you already drive one?

I'd get the Evo as well. AWD + turbo should be pretty awesome.

synolimit 06-25-2013 07:10 PM

Evos a tin can though that's good for track only. The term "race the evo at track, drive the Subaru home" didn't come from just no where.

Whatever it is, make it a sports model.

gsxr750 06-25-2013 07:16 PM

If its your primary car I wouldn't buy a Z.

Best deal is the sports manual package for around $36K delivered the touring nav package is not really worth the extra 10K

evil370z 06-25-2013 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enkei2k (Post 2379415)
Drives: 13 nissan 370z bk

:confused: you already drive one?

I'd get the Evo as well. AWD + turbo should be pretty awesome.

when i signed up to this forum they i had to put in a car / model or else i wouldn't be registered to this forum

YzGyz 06-25-2013 07:32 PM

I say go drive them all. Then chose what you want and will live with for 5 years. YOu want fit and finish then no evo. It's cheap inside. The G or M37 (Infinity is changing everything into M) will be a lot more comfy and really nice fit and finish. However it wont be as sporty as the other two. The 370 is in between the two I think. I preferred the 370 over them as I want a sport car but wanted it to feel like it was a 40k car unlike the evo. IF you want more engine/sport then get the evo. If you want engine/sport with decent fit and finish, get the 370. If your a family man or need the space, get a evo or 37.

IDK about you but I it just don't sit right to me to spend 40k and have interior that feels plastic and dodge neon like.

Either way, go drive them all, but don't buy any right away. Go home and read up on the car you like for a week. After this, you go shopping. Try the car again and compare. Then see if you decide you can work your magic for the car. As you test drive, spit out some info to show the sale guy you know things. This way, he most likely won't try and bs you. When I bought my car, I told him more things than he knew about the car. He stopped the BS and knew I was serious. I then told him, "I like the car. Lets work some numbers. If I like the number, I buy. If not, I walk. The only thing is that I deal in Out the Door Prices." Then he said "Ok, Let's talk."

OTD prices is best and easiest way to buy imo. You you dont have to worry about how much they charge for TTT, dealer fee or anything. Just end price when you drive off the lot, as long as you think it's a good deal.

and sport model. It's worth it!

Pitch 06-25-2013 07:45 PM

seriously

dont buy right away...it gets you into trouble like myself :(

if youve thought about one alot more than the other for any reason, id suggest that one...i went against my loveo f a 370 cause i didnt get approved, drove a stang for fun, got hooked on the power during the test drive, GOT approved, and bought it

i regret it more than any other decision in my 21 years of living

luigi90210 06-25-2013 07:45 PM

Nismo model.

GSS138 06-25-2013 07:45 PM

The sport package for the price is a very very nice upgrade that if you were to try to duplicate it post market would probably cost you 3-4 times as much. A BBS alone is in the 6-7K range at least. The synchro rev is awesome on the 6MT. And the rear spoiler is functional and worth another grand or so, plus adds to the styling.

The touring package is also a very nice upgrade in terms of style and making the car a lot more attractive inside. If this car is going to be your daily driver, then it makes you feel like you are in an Audi or a Cadillac. My interior blows away my buddy's M3 interior, and it's on par with anything <80K that I have seen.

I think both packages are more than worth the money. I paid 31K for a 2012 sport+touring(no nav) with 26K on it. not sure if you want to buy new or not, but dropping one year off of it can drop the price significantly.

evil370z 06-25-2013 07:55 PM

thanks for the info guys, im going drop it off by a yr cause the price will drop significantly. much appreciated
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CSGLEON 06-25-2013 08:10 PM

I just recently bought a new never owned 2012 7AT Z. And I love my Z I just wish it had a bit more power after being in my friends GTO and Vette. The car does handle great though and is beautiful! I did go head to head legally with my friends 07 Vette in my Z, and he did of course win but by only "maybe" half a car length. I wish I recorded it. I'm not sure what the deal is.... But it seems like Nissan uses cheap paint and clear coat because I have gotten so many little rock chips/scratches.

evil370z 06-25-2013 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CSGLEON (Post 2379508)
I just recently bought a new never owned 2012 7AT Z. And I love my Z I just wish it had a bit more power after being in my friends GTO and Vette. The car does handle great though and is beautiful! I did go head to head legally with my friends 07 Vette in my Z, and he did of course win but by only "maybe" half a car length. I wish I recorded it. I'm not sure what the deal is.... But it seems like Nissan uses cheap paint and clear coat because I have gotten so many little rock chips/scratches.

congrats on the car man, yea the vette is one bad *** car lol. if you don't mind me asking did you get a base 370z ? base with sports ? touring ? or touring with sports?

GSS138 06-25-2013 08:33 PM

BUY!

Cars for Sale: 2012 Nissan 370Z Coupe in Rochester, NY 14623: Coupe Details - 346990422 - AutoTrader.com

Ask for it at 32k, see what they will work with it at. Nismo is a tough sell because it's a narrow market for buyers.

H2O_Doc 06-25-2013 08:57 PM

I looked at Touring and Sport models and ultimately think of the Touring as having some significant negatives for my particular circumstances.

I like a nice car stereo, and even Nissans best offering needs replacement. Moreover, the nav is outdated the day you get it and the screen quality comical. I actually like Nissans cloth better than their leather. I'm a decent sized guy and often find myself having to wear a shirt and tie in the summer - way too sweaty w leather.

I'm so glad I went with what I did, although others could reasonably disagree.

synolimit 06-25-2013 11:28 PM

Why no STI? STI can be close or as good as a evo but a million times nicer and best seats I've ever had in a car (for my back and body)! Still tin canny but no where near as bad as the evo. Plus you can't knock the 2.5l. With a few bolt ons, injectors, you're putting 400 tq down to the wheels!!! Evo and 370 can't touch that!

VQ370ZTT 06-25-2013 11:47 PM

I vote for Nissan Leaf. Reason being is it is the most economical. :D

alvitdk 06-26-2013 12:23 AM

Love my Z but went economical, Base and manual. Just could not justify the additional money. My only "must have" was a manual 6, I liked the wheels, do not track, and got an aftermarket, painted rear spoiler for 160.- of ebay which matches perfectly. I test drove the NISMO at the dealer, and did not care for the rev match feature, but most people like it, so I did not want to spend any money on the sport package. Out of the door price was 32k, including tax.

I had a BMW before and bought it fully loaded, every oem navigation system I have seen so far is not worth the 2k more. I will soon however, upgrade the standard ratio to a Pioneer full DIN.

CSGLEON 06-26-2013 12:14 PM

it is just the base 7AT. i have the typhoon cai on it. i would of liked to have gotten the sports but i just couldn't spend that kind of money. yeah one of these days i will own a vette!

H2O_Doc 06-26-2013 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CSGLEON (Post 2380576)
it is just the base 7AT. i have the typhoon cai on it. i would of liked to have gotten the sports but i just couldn't spend that kind of money. yeah one of these days i will own a vette!

I know a Corvette is faster etc., but after driving a 370Z, I have zero desire for one. This is with full recognition of where said vehicle is clearly superior. Maybe one day a version will come along to change my mind, but for now I'm happier with the Z.

NickTurnon 06-26-2013 12:41 PM

09 Nismo w/20-30k on it = $25k... + Twin Turbos & Tune = $10,000...

$35,000 Total & you are hanging with a GT-R

G37 is a nicer, heavier 370z.
Evo is fast and AWD, but I am not a fan of interior.

All have potential. Nismo is sexiest.

b15 06-26-2013 03:51 PM

If you can swing it, get the Touring + Sports + Navi. Well worth it. I got Nav because it makes the interior look 10x better than the empty cubby bin and I prefer an OEM look vs an aftermarket double DIN and dash kit. Plus I'm over swapping out stereos and such. As for it being outdated, how's that any different from any other NAV unit? You'll always need t0 update maps. Besides, I didn't get mine for the actual nav function, I just liked how it integrated everything else.

If you're not going to get the nav, then just get the sports. I don't think there's enough difference between a sport and a Touring + Sports to justify it.

H2O_Doc 06-26-2013 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by b15 (Post 2380904)
If you can swing it, get the Touring + Sports + Navi. Well worth it. I got Nav because it makes the interior look 10x better than the empty cubby bin and I prefer an OEM look vs an aftermarket double DIN and dash kit. Plus I'm over swapping out stereos and such. As for it being outdated, how's that any different from any other NAV unit? You'll always need t0 update maps. Besides, I didn't get mine for the actual nav function, I just liked how it integrated everything else.

If you're not going to get the nav, then just get the sports. I don't think there's enough difference between a sport and a Touring + Sports to justify it.

Mirror link HUs or smart phone linked HUs like Appradio will stay more up to day at a lower cost.

dP3NGU1N 06-26-2013 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b15 (Post 2380904)
If you can swing it, get the Touring + Sports + Navi. Well worth it. I got Nav because it makes the interior look 10x better than the empty cubby bin and I prefer an OEM look vs an aftermarket double DIN and dash kit. Plus I'm over swapping out stereos and such. As for it being outdated, how's that any different from any other NAV unit? You'll always need t0 update maps. Besides, I didn't get mine for the actual nav function, I just liked how it integrated everything else.

If you're not going to get the nav, then just get the sports. I don't think there's enough difference between a sport and a Touring + Sports to justify it.

What's different about an aftermarket ddin solution? Let me tell you a little bit about how the OEM audio industry works.... OEM audio will ALWAYS be inferior to aftermarket solutions because of the certification and in house testing that is required. OEM ICE goes through a 3-4 year certification program and then it's implemented in cars for another 5-7 years. Which means if you're buying a late model year car where the nav system was rolled out 4 years prior you're looking at a 7-10 year old product.

Aftermarket on the other hand does not need to go through the same reliability and certifications that the OE ones do because they are not form factor specific. They are able to provide the latest entertainment solutions that some OEM cars STILL do not provide (cadillac is a stellar example of this)

So it's not just the maps that are outdated; the entire unit is a relic even when it hits showroom floors. Now maybe you're not interested in all the latest capabilities that after market solutions offer; and that's fine. This is just to explain to you why OEM HUs are outdated from the get go. Your inability to transition to a new HU is also an issue with nissan specifically (if you have the OEM nav).

b15 06-26-2013 08:19 PM

That is true, I guess its what your after. I don't use any special features outside of the streaming bluetooth audio which the OEM one does just fine. Aftermarket solutions just look cheap to me but you are right, not having the nav gives you that flexibility to swap in the latest and greatest. I guess I'm just old and not with the times. Even the oem has all these features I don't use but again its what youre after. I got the nav to have a better looking interior.

Out of curiosity, because I've been out of the car audio game for 6-7 years now, what do these after market solutions offer today thats so great and above and beyond a system like say fords sync, cadillac cue, or the nissan/honda connect systems? Cost aside obviously.

H2O_Doc 06-26-2013 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by b15 (Post 2381264)
That is true, I guess its what your after. I don't use any special features outside of the streaming bluetooth audio which the OEM one does just fine. Aftermarket solutions just look cheap to me but you are right, not having the nav gives you that flexibility to swap in the latest and greatest. I guess I'm just old and not with the times. Even the oem has all these features I don't use but again its what youre after. I got the nav to have a better looking interior.

Out of curiosity, because I've been out of the car audio game for 6-7 years now, what do these after market solutions offer today thats so great and above and beyond a system like say fords sync, cadillac cue, or the nissan/honda connect systems? Cost aside obviously.


Car manufacturers are selling cars with stereos as an add on, while stereo manufacturers are selling stereos. Stereo folks have a stronger incentive to innovate and update. I find their products to be more up to date and more sophisticated. I have toyota's Entune system in my 4runner and it is way behind my Z's Appradio.

b15 06-26-2013 10:09 PM

That doesn't really explain much other than your opinion. Im not disagreeing with you but how is it better and more sophisticated? What makes your aftermarket unit so ahead of the oem entune?

evil370z 06-26-2013 11:48 PM

the info you guys are giving me is helping me, the evo did catch my eye but touring evo is gonna cost me 40k+ but the interior is just not worth it. im going to go with 2013 touring sports package with navi. the interior will look great with the navi add on. im into more of a sporty stylish look and 370z is sleek and sexy. it makes peoples head turn and its a beautiful car. im going to drop about 15-20k as down payment so my monthly cost will be around 350ish or even lower. i don't have a garage so itll be kept under a cover. my honda coupe will be used in winter / rainy days. 370z will be taken out on nice sunny days and weekends.

guys thanks for the info.

dP3NGU1N 06-27-2013 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by H2O_Doc (Post 2381409)
Car manufacturers are selling cars with stereos as an add on, while stereo manufacturers are selling stereos. Stereo folks have a stronger incentive to innovate and update. I find their products to be more up to date and more sophisticated. I have toyota's Entune system in my 4runner and it is way behind my Z's Appradio.

The gap has closed a bit in the last 4-5 years. Prior to that many OE solutions did not offer aux, bt audio streaming, pandora, USB in, etc.

These days none or very few have full audio sound control (i forget what the actual name is called - lets the user manually adjust lows, highs, and everything in between), OTA video mirroring, expandable hard drives, user interface customization, and other things I'm sure I'm forgetting.

Futurewise I can see the possibility of some HU manufacturers moving towards app driven platforms like android. Yes I'm aware China is doing it but I'm talking about major HU manufacturers not ebay and alibaba brands. The possibility of requiring a SIM card or something or piggybacking off of your phone's internet connection is also a possibility. Something that will take the OE market years to catch up to.

peleincubus 06-27-2013 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dP3NGU1N (Post 2381556)
The gap has closed a bit in the last 4-5 years. Prior to that many OE solutions did not offer aux, bt audio streaming, pandora, USB in, etc.

These days none or very few have full audio sound control (i forget what the actual name is called - lets the user manually adjust lows, highs, and everything in between), OTA video mirroring, expandable hard drives, user interface customization, and other things I'm sure I'm forgetting.

Futurewise I can see the possibility of some HU manufacturers moving towards app driven platforms like android. Yes I'm aware China is doing it but I'm talking about major HU manufacturers not ebay and alibaba brands. The possibility of requiring a SIM card or something or piggybacking off of your phone's internet connection is also a possibility. Something that will take the OE market years to catch up to.

I think a major brand HU just came out with a feature where you can tether from a phone.

b15 06-27-2013 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evil370z (Post 2381535)
the info you guys are giving me is helping me, the evo did catch my eye but touring evo is gonna cost me 40k+ but the interior is just not worth it. im going to go with 2013 touring sports package with navi. the interior will look great with the navi add on. im into more of a sporty stylish look and 370z is sleek and sexy. it makes peoples head turn and its a beautiful car. im going to drop about 15-20k as down payment so my monthly cost will be around 350ish or even lower. i don't have a garage so itll be kept under a cover. my honda coupe will be used in winter / rainy days. 370z will be taken out on nice sunny days and weekends.

guys thanks for the info.

Good choice! You won't regret it. Good luck with your purchase!

4r3s 06-27-2013 07:55 AM

I know you seem to have already made a choice but one thing that seems to be frequently overlooked before buying is the size of the gas tank. Evos have around 11-13 gallon tank, that is teeny tiny for a car that's thirsty! Despite the fuel pump issue some have when tracking the car the 370 has a 19 gallon tank which is fantastic in my opinion. I do not have to go to a gas station every couple of days. I fill up once every two weeks on average.

evil370z 06-27-2013 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4r3s (Post 2381757)
I know you seem to have already made a choice but one thing that seems to be frequently overlooked before buying is the size of the gas tank. Evos have around 11-13 gallon tank, that is teeny tiny for a car that's thirsty! Despite the fuel pump issue some have when tracking the car the 370 has a 19 gallon tank which is fantastic in my opinion. I do not have to go to a gas station every couple of days. I fill up once every two weeks on average.

really 19 gallon tank ? wow thats good, didn't even know that.

b15 06-27-2013 03:18 PM

Yeah 19 gallons goes faster than you think. ....if you drive her properly ;)

4r3s 06-28-2013 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by b15 (Post 2382521)
Yeah 19 gallons goes faster than you think. ....if you drive her properly ;)

True but the point that I didn't spell out is that if you're traveling somewhere you don't have to stop for gas every other hour. The 370 on open highway gets pretty good gas mileage for what it is. My trips between MD and SC I can average 28 mpg, my daily driving to and from work I get about 17.

NickTurnon 06-28-2013 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evil370z (Post 2382457)
really 19 gallon tank ? wow thats good, didn't even know that.

I usually get about 400-450 Miles each tank. Thats Scottsdale to Los Angeles and still have a dot or two left.

TheGreatOne 06-28-2013 11:55 AM

I have the 40th with Sports, Touring and NAV

I love the options that come along with it although many do not think the BOSE system is up to par, I love my music but it seems to be sufficient for me, the sub in the back has some kick. The NAV is also slick with some cool car monitoring features.

I think if I had the Base I'd want the bigger brakes and nicer wheels but its all about what you can live with and need.

The 370 is definitely sporty and turns heads, and less on the road than the EVO, which I like.

I store mine in the winter which sucks but I drive it pretty much every day I can unless its really crappy out. I take my old Forester or steal the wife's X5 :)


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