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playboyz 12-15-2008 12:37 AM

V8 in 370Z
 
I fond this info, don't know if I'm the last person to hear about this but I'll just post anyway!!! :icon17:

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There have been a couple of new developments since our last report, the most significant of them being a V8 which could end up powering a high performance version of the Z34 which will be identifiable by a “G-nose” modified front bumper reminiscent of the S30 240Z. The G-nose will add even more 240Z flavor to the Z34 making it a kind of “new retro”, a phrase coined by Best Car to describe the mix of old and new influences

Best car interviewed Z34 Chief of Production Shinjiro Yukawa last month and he confirmed that a V8 could see the light of day in a special edition model. Yukawa mentioned he wanted to “raise the performance of the new Z” while also acknowledging the Porsche Cayman S as being the Z34’s primary contender when it hits showrooms in December this year. The Z34 will of course be powered by a VQ37HVR engine from the V36 Skyline Coupe as we mentioned in our last update, only this time power is said to be slightly lower at 340ps but with the same 38.5kg/m torque. That shouldn’t matter though as the Z34 is rumored to weigh up to 100kg less than the Z33 350Z which should give it a useful boost in performance over the current model. A 6-speed manual and 7-speed “manual mode” automatic transmissions are still on the agenda.

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AK370Z 12-15-2008 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by playboyz (Post 8179)
I fond this info, don't know if I'm the last person to hear about this but I'll just post anyway!!! :icon17:

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There have been a couple of new developments since our last report, the most significant of them being a V8 which could end up powering a high performance version of the Z34 which will be identifiable by a “G-nose” modified front bumper reminiscent of the S30 240Z. The G-nose will add even more 240Z flavor to the Z34 making it a kind of “new retro”, a phrase coined by Best Car to describe the mix of old and new influences

Best car interviewed Z34 Chief of Production Shinjiro Yukawa last month and he confirmed that a V8 could see the light of day in a special edition model. Yukawa mentioned he wanted to “raise the performance of the new Z” while also acknowledging the Porsche Cayman S as being the Z34’s primary contender when it hits showrooms in December this year. The Z34 will of course be powered by a VQ37HVR engine from the V36 Skyline Coupe as we mentioned in our last update, only this time power is said to be slightly lower at 340ps but with the same 38.5kg/m torque. That shouldn’t matter though as the Z34 is rumored to weigh up to 100kg less than the Z33 350Z which should give it a useful boost in performance over the current model. A 6-speed manual and 7-speed “manual mode” automatic transmissions are still on the agenda.

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I believe that's an article dated 7/2007. Very old article. I wouldn't get too excited. If anything, I see a TT Z coming when we get the next Z (2015 or w/e)

shumby 12-15-2008 12:43 AM

that same V8 hype was out there for the G too but never happened. Now a G50S would be kick a$$

blackdragon 12-15-2008 01:18 AM

iono, that v8 still seems extremely unlikely in the Z

bigdog1250 12-15-2008 01:35 AM

Don't we all wish. As much as I love turboed cars, a V8 in a Z would make me skeet. But I'm happy with what the new 370z is already packing. Can't wait to drive one.

xDIEGOx 12-15-2008 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by blackdragon (Post 8197)
iono, that v8 still seems extremely unlikely in the Z

That's what the M3 guys said before...

BanningZ 12-15-2008 03:57 AM

Really??? A V8 in a Z stock?

NO.
350 Chevy motors should not be mounted. (Seen plenty of emm), nor should a stock V8 development be mounted as factory option.

tranceformer 12-15-2008 07:38 AM

That would be nice but I doubt it would happen, nor would it be affordable (for most people).

gettingaZ 12-15-2008 08:19 AM

Most likely in the Infiniti line.... Nissan would never!

nogoodname 12-15-2008 09:07 AM

it's not going to happen, it's all rumors........i tell ya.......just like how the V8 was suppose to be in the Baby G.....

http://i422.photobucket.com/albums/p...nfiniti500.jpg

zsport1 12-15-2008 01:38 PM

Not the first time Nissan played with the V8 Z Car idea. IMO it won't happen with the 370Z. Wouldn't make sense with the GTR now in the mix not to mention the world economy in the state it's in.

Here's Paul Newman's V8 280ZX race car.
http://alex62.typepad.com/imsablog/i...5/newman81.jpg

sbsmoov 12-15-2008 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by zsport1 (Post 8347)
Not the first time Nissan played with the V8 Z Car idea. IMO it won't happen with the 370Z. Wouldn't make sense with the GTR now in the mix not to mention the world economy in the state it's in.

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GTR and 370z is apples to oranges--GTR is in a different league @ 75K+ bucks.

Nissan has no offering in the 40k to 50k sports car segment . Nissan has yet to address this segment--base Corvette (430HP), Dodge Challenger SRT-8 (425HP), Camaro Z28 SS (420HP), Ford Shelby GT500 (500HP), etc., etc.

Nissan's VK50VE, which is based on the VQ V6, would fit this segment nicely with 390HP & 369 lb-ft of torque. Price it just below the base Corvette and Nissan will have another awesome machine at an incredible bargain in this price segment.

And 390HP is nowhere near the 485HP of the GTR--so don't give any silly arguments of how a V8 Z car would be a threat to the GTR. Like I said--apples to oranges.

Why a V8? The answer is simple. Purist Sports Car . (No forced induction wizardry, bells & whistles, & techno gizmos to make power). Incidentally, it would be the polar opposite of the GTR.

A purist sports car--N/A V8 Z would embody a purist approach to driving enjoyment combined with agressive looks, great handling, and a gorgeous exhaust note. It would represent an outstanding/best in class value in this segment.

Nissan! If you build it, we will buy it!

zsport1 12-15-2008 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sbsmoov (Post 8367)
GTR and 370z is apples to oranges--GTR is in a different league @ 75K+ bucks.

Nissan has no offering in the 40k to 50k sports car segment . Nissan has yet to address this segment--base Corvette (430HP), Dodge Challenger SRT-8 (425HP), Camaro Z28 SS (420HP), Ford Shelby GT500 (500HP), etc., etc.

Nissan's VK50VE, which is based on the VQ V6, would fit this segment nicely with 390HP & 369 lb-ft of torque. Price it just below the base Corvette and Nissan will have another awesome machine at an incredible bargain in this price segment.

And 390HP is nowhere near the 485HP of the GTR--so don't give any silly arguments of how a V8 Z car would be a threat to the GTR. Like I said--apples to oranges.

Why a V8? The answer is simple. Purist Sports Car . (No forced induction wizardry, bells & whistles, & techno gizmos to make power). Incidentally, it would be the polar opposite of the GTR.

A purist sports car--N/A V8 Z would embody a purist approach to driving enjoyment combined with an outstanding value in its segment, agressive looks, great handling, and a gorgeous exhaust note.

Nissan! If you build it, we will buy it!

All good points that have been brought up before. And in no way am I saying that a V8 Z Car would threaten the GTR. Would a V8 Z Car be cool? Ya sure. But your not going to see a $40K-$50K Z Car again anytime in the near future. Except maybe the NIMSO 370Z (not the S-Tune) that might be slightly over $40K. The Z has always been a "bang for the buck" sports Car. That's the Z's heritage. I had the opportunity to sit down with the lead designer of the Z Car at the Z Car Convention this year in Cleveland and was told "no V8" in the Z.
Sorry, there will be no V8 Z Car. :)

sbsmoov 12-15-2008 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by zsport1 (Post 8573)
All good points that have been brought up before. And in no way am I saying that a V8 Z Car would threaten the GTR. Would a V8 Z Car be cool? Ya sure. But your not going to see a $40K-$50K Z Car again anytime in the near future. Except maybe the NIMSO 370Z (not the S-Tune) that might be slightly over $40K. The Z has always been a "bang for the buck" sports Car. That's the Z's heritage. I had the opportunity to sit down with the lead designer of the Z Car at the Z Car Convention this year in Cleveland and was told "no V8" in the Z.
Sorry, there will be no V8 Z Car. :)


Yes the Z has always been a "bang for the buck" sports car. And it would still represent the best bang for the buck in the 40k-50k segment if priced below every other competitor in that segment. That is the point i'm trying to get across!

In other words, there's a huge gap in Nissan's sports car portfolio--there's no offering to fill the empty space bewteen the 370z and the GTR. Maybe it should be an entirely new car, but that gap should be filled.

zsport1 12-15-2008 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sbsmoov (Post 8610)
Yes the Z has always been a "bang for the buck" sports car. And it would still represent the best bang for the buck in the 40k-50k segment if priced below every other competitor in that segment. That is the point i'm trying to get across!

Sure, and the 300ZX Twin Turbo in the mid/late 90's was still a great value in the mid $40K range at that time. But consumers weren't willing to pay and Nissan pulled the plug on the Z Car in the US market in 96'. Which is the point I am making. :tiphat:

sbsmoov 12-15-2008 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by zsport1 (Post 8615)
Sure, and the 300ZX Twin Turbo in the mid/late 90's was still a great value in the mid $40K range at that time. But consumers weren't willing to pay and Nissan pulled the plug on the Z Car in the US market in 96'. Which is the point I am making. :tiphat:

A lot has changed since the mid/late 90's. I think that's an outdated comparison or case study to refer to and use some 12+ years later in 2008/2009. Nissan has allot more credibility now especially with the success of the GTR. The GTR proved to the world that Nissan has some very talented engineers. There not the same company back in the 90's on practically all levels.

This has nothing to do with cars, but i'm bringing it up to make a point. Do you remember Sony's Betamax versus JVC's VHS format war? Do you think Blu-Ray would exist today if Sony looked back at their defeat in 1988 and concluded that they should not introduce Blu-Ray because in all likelihood it would meet the same fate as betamax? Using your "passed performance" logic, that is what Sony should have done. Well we all know what happened.:tiphat:

zsport1 12-15-2008 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sbsmoov (Post 8626)
A lot has changed since the mid/late 90's. I think that's an outdated comparison or case study to refer to and use some 12+ years later in 2008/2009. Nissan has allot more credibility now especially with the success of the GTR. The GTR proved to the world that Nissan has some very talented engineers. There not the same company back in the 90's on practically all levels.

You can argue your case until your face turns blue but the fact is there will be no V8 Z Car. It's not going to happen. :)

sbsmoov 12-15-2008 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by zsport1 (Post 8653)
You can argue your case until your face turns blue but the fact is there will be no V8 Z Car. It's not going to happen. :)

zsport1, you always miss the point.:shakes head: The discussion is not about if it will or will not happen--the point is there are many valid arguments/reasons that lend support for such a car.

Whether such a car is in Nissan's plans or not isn't the focus of this discussion.

zsport1 12-15-2008 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sbsmoov (Post 8670)
zsport1, you always miss the point.:shakes head: The discussion is not about if it will or will not happen--the point is there are many valid arguments/reasons that lend support for such a car.

Whether such a car is in Nissan's plans or not isn't the focus of this discussion.

The original post of the OP was the rumor of a V8 370Z. So, yes, that was the point of this thread. And I did agree with you in my earlier post that there was a valid agruement for a V8 Z.
With all due respect, you are the one who is not getting the point.:shakes head:

sbsmoov 12-15-2008 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by zsport1 (Post 8671)
The original post of the OP was the rumor of a V8 370Z. So, yes, that was the point of this thread. And I did agree with you in my earlier post that there was a valid agruement for a V8 Z.
With all due respect, you are the one who is not getting the point.:shakes head:

I'm referring to my posts to you--not the original posts regarding rumors. My apologies for not being more specific in my previous post.

shumby 12-15-2008 09:40 PM

no fight ing go to the off topic lounge and look at the funny vids then came back and be happy

zsport1 12-15-2008 10:08 PM

^:tup:

FricFrac 12-16-2008 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by zsport1 (Post 8615)
Sure, and the 300ZX Twin Turbo in the mid/late 90's was still a great value in the mid $40K range at that time. But consumers weren't willing to pay and Nissan pulled the plug on the Z Car in the US market in 96'. Which is the point I am making. :tiphat:

Agreed - the death of the Z was overpricing itself out of the market which is exactly what Nissan has corrected with the 350Z and further more with the 370Z. The 370Z is probably the closest to the original concept of the 240Z - uncomparable bang for the buck. The Z has always performed on a 6 cylinder - look at the amazing performance that could be squeezed out of a Z32 TT - 300HP to almost 500 HP with not a lot of effort. I really like to see a TT before a V8. V8 are for American Muscle cars.... keep 'em out of my Nissan. Funny to see the American Muscle cars moving from the low RPM to high reving engines that Japan and Europe has long been using.

But to each his/her own - Nissan has been catering to the North America market so who know's what will actually happen.... its just nice to see

sbsmoov 12-16-2008 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by FricFrac (Post 8759)
V8 are for American Muscle cars.... keep 'em out of my Nissan.

Yep. And rap music is just a fad.:ughdance:

nogoodname 12-16-2008 11:30 AM

ok, it's not hard to understand that Nissan will not make a V8 Z.....LOL

tranceformer 12-16-2008 02:33 PM

On paper, the V8 would be less complicated than a twin turbo V6. Don't have to worry about higher hood temperatures, emissions, plumbing, engine tuning, and generally less **** to go wrong.

sbsmoov 12-16-2008 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by nogoodname007 (Post 8927)
ok, it's not hard to understand that Nissan will not make a V8 Z.....LOL

Look at me, I washed for supper. :excited:


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